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justplugit 06-13-2012 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven (Post 943946)
free cheese -lol

:D True story Rav. When the Dems controlled the county they had a big
blow out picnic for the seniors every summer at the county park.
As many hot dogs, beerand soda you could consume.
Then if you were below a certain incomeyou could get a 8 lb bar of cheese every month.

My Mother in law would always vote for the Dems because she loved to
party and got the free cheese. No lie, she was always afraid that Soc Sec
would give her a raise which would disqualify her for her the cheese. :hihi:
Every day for years she would eat her grilled cheese sandwich for lunch
and she couldn't be disturbed. :doh:
She passed away from hardening of the arteries, no doubt caused by the
Dems hot dogs and free cheese. :grins:

Saltheart 06-13-2012 05:43 PM

Who determines what are "offensive words"?

Is "God Damned" offensive?

Is "Nazi" or Communist" offensive.

Is calling someone "liberal" or "conservative" offensive.

Who determines all this?

Bang your thumb with a hammer and say "Oh that F'in hurt" gets you a ticket.

Why is one term used to describe sex a capital sin but 10 other words to describe the same act are OK?


This law and others like it are just one more nail in the coffin of Freedom.

Piscator 06-13-2012 07:00 PM

Quick question, is there actually a list of words that can't be said? Like which ones are ok and which ones are not?

Douchebag is now on every TV show and radio show, not something I would say around kids or loud in public. Did the town provide a list of words?

JohnnyD 06-13-2012 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Piscator (Post 944150)
Quick question, is there actually a list of words that can't be said? Like which ones are ok and which ones are not?

No. Enforcement is "at the discretion of police officers."

This "law" is so asinine, an editorial about it is the showcased article on the front page of CNN.
Ban swearing? No way - CNN.com

justplugit 06-13-2012 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Saltheart (Post 944142)


This law and others like it are just one more nail in the coffin of Freedom.

Yes, it's gotten to the point where the Govt has taken over the family roll to
the enth degree by now teaching the words people should or shouldn't say.

likwid 06-14-2012 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Saltheart (Post 944142)
This law and others like it are just one more nail in the coffin of Freedom.

The real nail in the coffin of freedom is in this day and age of ability to gather information at the rate we can people pissing and moaning AFTER THE FACT when laws are passed.

This vote wasn't a secret, it was on the agenda.

The only people to blame, in the case of being against this law, are the people of the town for being lazy.

The Dad Fisherman 06-14-2012 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by likwid (Post 944197)
The only people to blame, in the case of being against this law, are the people of the town for being lazy.

:uhuh:

Typhoon 06-14-2012 07:47 AM

Meanwhile, in Middleboro guy gets fined for planting tulips.

Tempest over tulips: Middleboro business owner under fire over planting of flowers - Quincy, MA - The Patriot Ledger

justplugit 06-14-2012 09:53 AM

"The tulips violate landscape regulations."
No Govt. micro managed regulations here, move on. :rolleyes:

JohnnyD 06-14-2012 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 944264)
"The tulips violate landscape regulations."
No Govt. micro managed regulations here, move on. :rolleyes:

Owning any property in Middleboro is like being part of a town-wide Homeowners Association.

Raven 06-14-2012 11:04 AM

Middleboro has become the laughing stock of the whole world!

ANYONE have the majors email address?

PaulS 06-14-2012 12:36 PM

Can you make a citizens arrest if you hear someone swearing?

RIROCKHOUND 06-14-2012 01:01 PM

Just to give it some context... it sounds like this guy should have done some more careful planning all around before spending as much as he did.... it is not always better to seek forgivness than ask permission....



"Building Commissioner Robert J. Whalen cited the business because a building is too close to the property line, the parking lot is too close to Auburn Street, the tulips violate landscape regulations and he lacked a permit to do work near a wetland.
Whalen declined to comment on the alleged violations.

High said he is not planning to move the building and said there was a mix-up with the Conservation Commission on the wetland permit.

He said he has 1,400 more tulip bulbs on order and fears he might be stuck planting them elsewhere because zoning requires “natural vegetation.”
On zoning enforcement, he said, “there are different standards for everyone in the immediate area. Yet I’m being found in violation when all I’m doing is improvement,” High said.

JohnnyD 06-14-2012 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 944303)
Just to give it some context... it sounds like this guy should have done some more careful planning all around before spending as much as he did.... it is not always better to seek forgivness than ask permission....



"Building Commissioner Robert J. Whalen cited the business because a building is too close to the property line, the parking lot is too close to Auburn Street, the tulips violate landscape regulations and he lacked a permit to do work near a wetland.
Whalen declined to comment on the alleged violations.

All of which just re-enforces that this is just an over-bearing government, like justplugit said.

RIROCKHOUND 06-14-2012 02:11 PM

Because we have building requirements regarding property lines, wetlands and native vegetation (likely b/c he was near a wetland)...?

right.
build whatever you want, whereever you want... it's in the constitution! personally, I like that there are regulations that says my neighbor can't knock his house down and build a giant house within 2 inches of his property line, while filling a wetland just because he wants to, chose to ignore or was ignorant of the regulations.


Seriously, mark it down, I agree with JimCT.... this is local ordanaces... don't like it? Move, or get a petition to change it. run for government.

JohnnyD 06-14-2012 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 944313)
Because we have building requirements regarding property lines, wetlands and native vegetation (likely b/c he was near a wetland)...?

right.
build whatever you want, whereever you want... it's in the constitution! personally, I like that there are regulations that says my neighbor can't knock his house down and build a giant house within 2 inches of his property line, while filling a wetland just because he wants to, chose to ignore or was ignorant of the regulations.


Seriously, mark it down, I agree with JimCT.... this is local ordanaces... don't like it? Move, or get a petition to change it. run for government.

For starters, trying to rate this to Constitutionality is completely invalid, just as FB's attempt at relating the restrictions of minors buying pornos.

A couple things... correct me if I'm reading the article wrong, but it appears that the buildings were all there when he bought the property. Also, he did "$1 million in hazardous waste cleanup", beautified a wasteland, is composting municipal yard waste.

Note that Ron High lives in Duxbury, as opposed to Middleboro. Just because he's been cited for violations doesn't mean the citations were appropriately applied. The end of the article demonstrates that all of this was probably triggered by a NIMBY mentality and someone with pull made some calls.

Don't get me wrong, some regulations are certainly needed for safety and environmental protection. But this whole situation stinks of "our foot is in the door, now let's see how much we can screw him." I think this is emphasized by:
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On zoning enforcement, he said, “there are different standards for everyone in the immediate area.”

Read more: Tempest over tulips: Middleboro business owner under fire over planting of flowers - Brockton, MA - The Enterprise

likwid 06-14-2012 02:56 PM

Tulips are stupid, I'm going to sue him for planting a stupid plant.

RIROCKHOUND 06-14-2012 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 944319)
Note that Ron High lives in Duxbury, as opposed to Middleboro. Just because he's been cited for violations doesn't mean the citations were appropriately applied. The end of the article demonstrates that all of this was probably triggered by a NIMBY mentality and someone with pull made some calls.
:

I don't know what he built and what he redid, but typically a 50% or more improvement triggers all the new construction codes... if it were me, and I was laying out a Mil, I'd be damn sure I had my ducks in a row...

fishbones 06-14-2012 03:12 PM

It's kind of ironic that a guy with no children thinks that people should be allowed to use whatever offensive language they want around them, and even though he's not a property owner, he knows what building ordinances should be. That's pretty funny.
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Sea Dangles 06-14-2012 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 944313)
Because we have building requirements regarding property lines, wetlands and native vegetation (likely b/c he was near a wetland)...?

right.
build whatever you want, whereever you want... it's in the constitution! personally, I like that there are regulations that says my neighbor can't knock his house down and build a giant house within 2 inches of his property line, while filling a wetland just because he wants to, chose to ignore or was ignorant of the regulations.


Seriously, mark it down, I agree with JimCT.... this is local ordanaces... don't like it? Move, or get a petition to change it. run for government.

Or file for a variance with the board of appeals.It is part of the process.

JohnnyD 06-14-2012 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fishbones (Post 944325)
It's kind of ironic that a guy with no children thinks that people should be allowed to use whatever offensive language they want around them, and even though he's not a property owner, he knows what building ordinances should be. That's pretty funny.
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See, there you go putting words in my mouth again. If you knew how to read, you would have seen:
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Your combining two different things. Not once have I said swearing in front of children is acceptable. It's not. Hell, I typically don't swear in front of women. What I'm saying is that just because it's unacceptable, doesn't mean that Big Brother should be regulating it.

Legally acceptable and socially acceptable are two completely different things - Big Brother should be involved in the former and not at all in the latter.
Same as owning a fishing rod doesn't make a person a fisherman, just because you own a house and have kids doesn't automatically make you an authority on the subjects. There are plenty of neglectful parents and pitiful homeowners out there. But you feel free to continue twisting reality to fit your weak argument.

fishbones 06-14-2012 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 944345)
But you feel free to continue twisting reality to fit your weak argument.

You're funny, JD. I wasn't making an argument. I was just saying you sounded stupid. It's an opinion, not an argument. I'd put a smiley here but I can't from my phone, so don't get your panties in a knot.
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Saltheart 06-14-2012 05:21 PM

It doesn't matter because when the inspector told him he couldn't have Tulips he responded by saying..... Damn , I should have planted more F'in Roses instead. Now he's been sentenced to life in prison for breaking the zoning ordinance and swearing about it . :)

Redsoxticket 06-14-2012 06:08 PM

When it comes to wetlands and vegetation there are certain plants that are essential to protect the ecosystem and wetland and tulips are not on the list.
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justplugit 06-14-2012 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 944303)

He said he has 1,400 more tulip bulbs on order and fears he might be stuck planting them elsewhere because zoning requires “natural vegetation.”
.

I'd cancel the tulip order and plant skunk cabbage as a " natural vegetation" plant. :D


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