I will definitley read this. I love this stuff. I read the book "The Source" by James Michner and while it is fiction, Michners style is to go back in time and create stories that are historically accurate. His views on the development of religion where mind blowing to me. I will put in an order from amazon asap for this book, thanks numby

OK, you've persuaded me. I ordered the book.

George, I've seen versions of your first comment tossed about as an attack on religeon in general and Christianity in particular, it is incomplete in many ways.....it leaves out the good that organized religeion and Christianity have done throughout history and wrongly attributes many examples of the inhumanity to the religeous institution rather than to the individuals who perverted or bastardized the religeon for their own intentions..history is full of examples...I think if you add up the examples of inhumanty perpetrated by those perverting religeon with those amoral examples of those perverting the other religeon(statism) .....you arrive at quite a body count

funny that many who make this broad claim regarding Christianity often insist that the violence coming from the religeon of peace is nothing more that a few radicals who have perverted the religeon for their own ends....seem to want to have it both ways:uhuh:

for the second I'd argue that when humans are empowered good things can happen and will happen more often than not if the human has a solid moral underpinning and good intentions and if those that empower the human(but not to the height of worship) have a solid understanding of the principles and concepts that they are empowering the human to represent....it's when amoral, relativist humans who practice slight of hand meet and decieve the empowering humans who may be subject to flim flam because they aren't rooted in the basics of morality and principles of their "beliefs" that bad things happen :uhuh: