This was cut & paste information from Paul Diodati, Director of the MA Division of Marine Fisheries.

As far as the 2 fish for a shore guy versus 15 for a boat, how is that going to be determined as far as which category an angler falls into?

Will depend on the permit they have. Generally shore guys have a rod & reel permit (2 fish) vs a boat permit (15 fish)

Whats gonna stop a shore guy from getting a boat license??? How are they gonna know when he sells his drop that he got them from shore or boat? Loop hole??? I don't know just a stupid curious question?

The fish from boat will be seasick...LOL...:)

Shore fishermen already have that loop hole covered

Pretty sure your boat registration is required to get a boat license. License is for the boat and not the angler like the shore one is...at least I think that's how it works.
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The boat has to have a Massachusetts state commercial fishing permit and on top of that permit you get the 20dollar bass endorcement.
Like a duck stamp
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I dont understand why shore is less.
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pretty sure it is a $30 bass endorsement. The rod and reel permit says Rod and Reel Permit on it. The comm. boat permit says Commercial Permit on it. It has boat length,name of boat, Ma/doc#, homeport, on the license. I have never had a buyer look at that info before but who knows maybe they will now. Shore guys can get a boat permit if they have a registered boat. Some years I have gotten the rod and reel permit and some years I got the boat permit, especially if someone was going to join me as a boat permit covered all on the boat and rod and reel permit did not, only I could be on the boat if comm fishing was going to take place.

The Massachusetts Marine Fisheries Advisory Commission has approved new regulations affecting the Commonwealth’s commercial striped bass fishery. The following regulations are expected to be implemented prior to the start of the 2014 season.

· Season Start Date: The new opening date is June 23. The fishery will remain open until the Division of Marine Fisheries (MarineFisheries)projects that the Commonwealth’s annual commercial striped bass quota has been landed. The 2014 quota is approximately 1.15 million pounds.

· Open Fishing Days: The new open fishing days are Mondays and Thursdays only. It is illegal to harvest striped bass for commercial purposes on all other days of the week.

· Daily Limit: The daily possession and landing limits for commercial fishermen have been lowered and are now based on the type of commercial fishing permit held:

- A 15-fish daily limit applies to fishermen issued a Commercial Lobster or Boat Permit with a Striped Bass Endorsement. Validation of a registered vessel is required to obtain a Commercial Lobster or Boat Permit. This limit applies to the permit holder regardless of the number of Striped Bass Endorsements held or trips taken in a day; it also applies to the vessel regardless of the number of Striped Bass Endorsement holders onboard or trips taken in a day.

- A 2-fish daily limit applies to fishermen issued a Commercial Individual or Rod & Reel Permit with a Striped Bass Endorsement. This limit applies to the permit holder regardless of fishing location (e.g., shore or vessel), the number of commercial Striped Bass Endorsements held, or the number of trips taken in a day. Fishermen who obtained a Commercial Individual or Rod & Reel Permit prior to this announcement may apply to upgrade to a Commercial Boat Permit; upgrades must be requested by May 15, 2014.

- Primary buyers are prohibited from purchasing more than one daily limit from a commercial fisherman regardless of the number of commercial Striped Bass Endorsements in the fisherman’s possession.

· Control Date: A control date of September 8, 2013 applies to the commercial striped bass fishery. Any person issued a new Striped Bass Endorsement after September 8, 2013 may be restricted from participating in this fishery or may be subject to different eligibility criteria than those persons who did hold a Striped Bass Endorsement on or before September 8, 2013. Future access may be based on historic landings of a vessel or person, or other criteria established by the Director. Those who obtained a new Striped Bass Endorsement after September 8, 2013 will be required to complete an affidavit acknowledging the Striped Bass Control Date for their endorsement to remain valid.

· Striped Bass Endorsement Application and Renewal Deadline: As previously notified, a March 15 deadline to apply for or apply to renew a commercial striped bass endorsement is effective this year. For 2015 and beyond, the deadline will be the last day of February.

· Tagging Program: Primary buyers of striped bass must affix a valid, MarineFisheries-issued Striped Bass ID Tag to each striped bass at the place of primary purchase and prior to transit. The tags must remain affixed to whole striped bass until the fish are processed into fillets, thereafter the tags must accompany the fillets while in possession for re-sale. Tags are to remain on the premises of retail seafood dealers or food establishments until all portions are sold, thereafter the tags must be cut into two pieces and discarded. Primary buyers will be subject to tag accountability measures following the close of the commercial striped bass season. Dealers authorized to be primary buyers of striped bass will receive, by mail, additional instructions from MarineFisheries regarding tag distribution, use, and accounting by late April.

Refer to MarineFisheries’ website for complete regulations: www.mass.gov/marinefisheries. For additional information, please contact MarineFisheries permitting staff in Boston (617-626-1520), Gloucester (978-282-0308), or New Bedford (508-990-2860).

So the way I read it is, if you have a boat permit you can take 15 fish a day, period. If you are a shore fisherman you can take 2 fish a day.

It doesn't matter how many permit holder are on a boat. The permit is, effectively, with the boat and so 1, 15 fish limit per boat per day.

I think that this will mitigate the commercial take to a degree as I am sure that last year there were many boats with 2 permit holders on board taking in 30 fish.

Gotta pay for that $75,000 boat and the dockage and fuel somehow.
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NEBe give it a friggin rest already. :smash:
Everybody knows you don't like commercial bass fishing. So Don't do it.
No need to shat on every single thread that comes up about commercial bass.
Like it or not those are the regs.
Go on over to stripersforever and hug it out with them.

Nebe is actually right. I would guess a good amount of comm guys are having fun fishing and trying to make a couple of dollars doing it. I am not sure how he came up with the generic dollar amount but my guess is the majority of boats out bassing are not worth 1/3 of that price tag.I like fishing.
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Yeah Paul you are suppose to only have 30 fish per vessel and has been like that, but no one checks. Can't leave it up to the fish truck guys to check as it is too hectic and some barely speak English. I know several that do that and that is just the tip of the iceberg for some of the cheating that goes on. Stinks if you play by the rules. Again this year the 15 fish I don't think they will be enforcing that too strictly. Probably be able to sell a few limits per boat and get away with it. Next year I hear it will be more enforced.

I think the facts that really blew my mind was that 67% of the permit holders never sold a fish last year.

LOL I love this. had a guy in the booth Sun complaining about the new com regs. He has a 38 ft $500,000 boat and a nice OBGYN practice an he was complaining about the limits for his commercial fishing---LOOL Practice. Shut it all down.What are there a dozen or so that realy use the com catch to feed their family an the rest to get fish for the Striper Cup or some other bragin rights. LOL it's all become just one big joke. Kill all we can an bitch all we can. Like the mess at the Canal on a moon tide. SAD SAD SADKill them till they/re gone then whine about it.

glad you got my humor..

yes i am against comm fishing for bass.. but if its gonna happen, i want to see a decent bayman reap that reward, not the weekend warrior who has found a way to pay for his centah console.. ;)

Amen brother. :love:

Glad I got out when I did!

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I am not thrilled about a commercial season on stripers.... BUT, saying a guy can't commercially fish for Bass because it is not his sole (or major) source of income is kinda... well.... BS.

What if I wanted to sell some lures part time to recoup some of my money spent on supplies? (and paid the taxes, etc...) Would that be OK? Surely it is not my full time job, but I can't see where that would be considered unethical, immoral or illegal.

And as a full disclaimer.... I have no intention or desire to commercial fish OR sell lures to make some spare Cheddar.

we are all entitled to our opinions..

Joe but you're comparing selling a natural resource for supplemental income to selling extra plugs on the side to do the same thing. The plugs can be rebuilt, the fishery may not. Seems like apples to oranges to me.

And I think it's a joke the rec harvest wasn't cut in half as well...

No I get it... and just to be clear, I'd like to see limits SLASHED across the board.

I just fell that legislating WHO can sell commercially is against the freedoms I believe in.

PS. I got your VM, I'll give you a call.

Gotcha.

Ok thanks bud no rush...

LOL Well another way to help is to put an age limit to the permits. either 16 or 18 yrs of age that way the 6 yr olds that sell a full permit amount every day will be out of the equation or the family members that never step foot on a boat.I still wonder how many fish are sold under names that never even fish. for those nay sayer don't bother seen it an reported it. like the guys photoed goin to the draggers at night loadin up on stripers an splittin the take with the draggers.
The point is people doin the illegal stuff make the issue what it is. Commercials don't police their own.Don't want any reductions and fight to take more n more.Are there abuses in rod n reel yup. look at the Canal at times.2 -3-4- thousand fish killed an many taking more than the 2 allowed.
As far as complainin about plug sellers well thats an easy fix. Shut down the hook making an auto industries. No hooks no fishing,no cars well its a long walk or bike ride to look at the water LOL
Never yet seen where less than.001 percent should have more thanthe other 99.999 percent. 1 fish 36 inches for all isn't bad one fish 28 in isn't bad. in Maine it's been 1 fish for a very long time. Part of the reason for the slot limit was to give people a chance at something to take home due to the overfishing of larger fish killin the northern migration.

Its not a good day unless you take multiple limits.

This will stop most of the gang who moves to chatham for the duration of the event. It is not worth it for one day and 10 fish.

IMO The focus of the DMF is in the wrong area. They are so screwed up I don't think this is a fixable any longer. Have to blow up the entire infrastructure and re-build it from the ground up.

The problem when a government group manages a species or multiple species is that is in their best interest to keep the species in constant crisis to stay funded. Imagine if one day cormorants were no longer protected and there was a bounty put on them. (An invasive non-native bird btw). Winter flounder stocks would rebound. Imagine a massive dogfish cull.. Cod stocks would probably rebound. Imagine a seal cull.... Inshore bass fishing on the cape would come back. Imagine temporary shifting MPA's... Ground fish habitat would be restored. But.. Instead these agencies shuffle limits and manage their shell game...

Do you people actually think That the government would fix something to the point that they would have to lay off half of their work force because they fixed the problem that they are assigned to solve? I don't think so.
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I try to keep an open mind about all of this- the comm guys shouldn't be shut out, but they also shouldn't be entitled to 8 or 10 times the recreational guys' take.....

and the $30 license fee is a joke. DMF should raise it so its in line with what every other professional license costs... dental assistants, nurses physical therapists, whatever. licenses for those "professions" are typically $100/year (or more).... "professional bass fishermen" should have the same fee.

They do a boat permit costs $135, it's just the endorsement to fish for stripers that costs $30
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You my friend need to find a new place to fish

Porkfrogging
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Get your wetsuit registered...its already got its own on board bathroom and food storage area in addition to a live bait tank...heck it even has a bow light.