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vineyardblues 03-14-2014 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1035291)
Heres my hunch.. There was a hijacking attempt. The two hijackers gained access into the cockpit and the plane changed course.. passengers, aware of what happened on 9/11, entered the cockpit and a struggle ensued.. The hijackers put the plane into a nose dive and the plane hit the water like a gannet ( as Bigfish suggested).. The nose of the plane exploded, and water filled the plane quickly, the wings were full of fuel and the plane simply sank to the bottom, trapping its contents inside, thus... the lack of wreckage. All that said, there is wreckage floating around out there.. it just has not been seen yet.


They already said that "one" of the HiJackers Mother or aunt was waiting for the plane to land to pick him up .... :grins:

Mike P 03-14-2014 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Swimmer (Post 1035206)
The tallest building in the world is in Dubai right, so if its on the ground being loaded with explosives as Raven suggests in that area, it could be within full-tanks flight distance to Dubai right?
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Getting it off the ground with full fuel and a heavy load of explosives could be a problem, if it was hidden at a small, remote field somewhere. You'd need about 5000' of runway (maybe more if it's a grass field) and a pilot experienced in short field max weight take-offs. Taking off is a bit more complicated than hijacking a plane and turning it around. If was going to be turned into a flying bomb, odds are the original pilot would refuse to take off, even at gunpoint. Unless he was in on whatever plot was hatched, of course.

Nebe 03-14-2014 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by vineyardblues (Post 1035292)
They already said that "one" of the HiJackers Mother or aunt was waiting for the plane to land to pick him up .... :grins:

Perfect cover ;)
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Raven 03-14-2014 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackbass (Post 1035213)
http://www.theonion.com/articles/mal...view:1:Default

Well Raven you beat the onion to it
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it occurred to me in a premonition not speculation

Malaysia’s civil aviation chief Azharuddin Abdul Rahman
ought to stick to noodles
and get his best people on it.

vineyardblues 03-14-2014 02:08 PM

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NeBe it's not to late

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Nebe 03-14-2014 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by vineyardblues (Post 1035305)
NeBe it's not to late

:uhuh:

haha... nice! :)

spence 03-14-2014 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike P (Post 1035297)
Getting it off the ground with full fuel and a heavy load of explosives could be a problem, if it was hidden at a small, remote field somewhere. You'd need about 5000' of runway (maybe more if it's a grass field) and a pilot experienced in short field max weight take-offs. Taking off is a bit more complicated than hijacking a plane and turning it around. If was going to be turned into a flying bomb, odds are the original pilot would refuse to take off, even at gunpoint. Unless he was in on whatever plot was hatched, of course.

Getting it off the ground with a small nuke could be scary, and with no load and a lot of fuel that aircraft could likely fly for a while.

I'd wager the military is watching this closely.
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Raven 03-14-2014 03:02 PM

we have a plane that has a lazer in the NOSE
it can shoot the beam like :point: ten miles
we might just use it soon

Nebe 03-14-2014 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1035312)
Getting it off the ground with a small nuke could be scary, and with no load and a lot of fuel that aircraft could likely fly for a while.

I'd wager the military is watching this closely.
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This plane is on the bottom of the ocean

spence 03-15-2014 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1035325)
This plane is on the bottom of the ocean

I wouldn't jump to that conclusion yet. Evidence is increasingly pointing towards not only a hijacking, the aircraft the air for 7 hours after they lost contact and maneuvers to avoid detection.

-spence

nightfighter 03-15-2014 03:30 PM

It's all about what was in the cargo hold.......

spence 03-15-2014 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1035390)
It's all about what was in the cargo hold.......

Which was?

-spence

nightfighter 03-15-2014 03:46 PM

Gold. A ton of gold.

spence 03-15-2014 04:09 PM

I wouldn't think an airliner would be the best way to transport gold.

On which conspiracy site have you been lurking?

-spence

Nebe 03-15-2014 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1035392)
Gold. A ton of gold.

Got a link?
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Nebe 03-15-2014 04:49 PM

I would like to see the cargo manifest. If there was gold in that plane, I'd sigh a big sigh if releaf as the agenda would be known. I worry that someone might use this jet to carry a serious payload somewhere and pull another 9-11 type attack.
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nightfighter 03-15-2014 05:02 PM

European press... Do you read Polish? Looking for stories in English.

No one has said anything about the cargo.....have they?

I think plane is on the ground, in one piece, in a Russian state. Not sure what they would have done about passengers. They wouldn't last long if someone lowered oxygen levels by overriding controls. Crew has their own oxygen supply. At least on American carriers.

But someone, or something on that plane was the target, IMHO. The plane itself could have been the target, but I don't think so. I also think our two naval assets already in the Indian Ocean are not there with the search as their primary mission. I would expect a larger presence soon.

Nebe 03-15-2014 05:15 PM

Let's see a link. This cat is curious
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spence 03-16-2014 08:17 AM

Focus appears to be on the pilot now. He may have started to turn off communication equipment before signing off from KL ATC.

-spence

spence 03-16-2014 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1035397)
I would like to see the cargo manifest. If there was gold in that plane, I'd sigh a big sigh if releaf as the agenda would be known. I worry that someone might use this jet to carry a serious payload somewhere and pull another 9-11 type attack.
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I don't think this was a robbery...it may all be a political protest.

-spence

buckman 03-16-2014 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1035453)
I don't think this was a robbery...it may all be a political protest.

-spence

Got a link ? ;)
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Nebe 03-16-2014 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 1035457)
Got a link ? ;)
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Read any news source right now. The pilot was a huge supporter of the largest opposition group.
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BigFish 03-16-2014 04:53 PM

Anyone else find it curious the pilot owned his own flight simulator?? I did right out of the gate??

nightfighter 03-16-2014 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFish (Post 1035472)
Anyone else find it curious the pilot owned his own flight simulator?? I did right out of the gate??

I can't believe the "officials" didn't investigate the simulator's drive history until four or five days had passed.....
That said, I don't believe in transparency and the general public's "right" to know everything as it happens. Some information just doesn't need to be out there in real time.

spence 03-16-2014 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1035473)
I can't believe the "officials" didn't investigate the simulator's drive history until four or five days had passed.....
That said, I don't believe in transparency and the general public's "right" to know everything as it happens. Some information just doesn't need to be out there in real time.

I'd wager there's a lot our government knows that hasn't been released to the press.

People may just be thanking the NSA when this is all said and done :hihi:

-spence

Raven 03-16-2014 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFish (Post 1035472)
Anyone else find it curious the pilot owned his own flight simulator?? I did right out of the gate??

yeah me too.....and it became a decision of wether he was the best pilot ever...or up to no good....

and who else he trained @ home

Raven 03-16-2014 05:45 PM

as for a political protest

it would have to be a straight trade of passenger's of flight 370 for
gitmo detainee's

BigBo 03-16-2014 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven (Post 1035481)
yeah me too.....and it became a decision of wether he was the best pilot ever...or up to no good....

and who else he trained @ home

Not according to your original post. :smash:

Raven 03-16-2014 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBo (Post 1035485)
Not according to your original post. :smash:

that was theory number ONE

BigBo 03-16-2014 06:04 PM

Theory number one was the aliens? :rotf2:

Raven 03-16-2014 06:26 PM

yoda did it

Raven 03-17-2014 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1035398)
European press... Do you read Polish? Looking for stories in English.

No one has said anything about the cargo.....have they?

I think plane is on the ground, in one piece, in a Russian state. Not sure what they would have done about passengers. They wouldn't last long if someone lowered oxygen levels by overriding controls. Crew has their own oxygen supply. At least on American carriers.

But someone, or something on that plane was the target, IMHO. The plane itself could have been the target, but I don't think so. I also think our two naval assets already in the Indian Ocean are not there with the search as their primary mission. I would expect a larger presence soon.

the fact that 20 members of one tech company all being on board did
ring a bell

buckman 03-17-2014 07:29 AM

I heard today that there are over 600 runways where the plane could have landed.
Also the pilots family moved out the day before the flight and have not been heard from . I'm not sure the validity of all this. I just heard bits and pieces on the news
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Raven 03-17-2014 04:40 PM

time eddy theory still stands
 
as a result of the big bang theory

this article validates the " Idea "

as a potential "possibility"

http://txchnologist.com/post/7988322...Email%20distro
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...4oe1rpydpj.gif

spence 03-18-2014 07:35 AM

I'm leaning toward the cockpit fire theory for now…seems to fit most of the evidence…aside from the bit where some communication equipment was turned off before the co-pilot signed off…but perhaps that reporting is wrong.

-spence

Raven 03-18-2014 07:54 AM

that wouldn't explain no messages from passengers getting thru
unless they all were out of range but i thought "maybe :huh: "
a satellite might
be able to get a signal ... i dunno

vineyardblues 03-18-2014 08:05 AM

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This is why they have no cell service

BigBo 03-18-2014 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by vineyardblues (Post 1035600)
This is why they have no cell service

Raven was right all along!!!!!!!!!!! :want:

Raven 03-18-2014 10:10 AM

any time there's electromagnetic interference
from an electromagnetic pulse weapon
or any other source ...nothing works anymore

that could be an explanation of why the pilot was flying
such a crazy pattern if it wasn't a deliberate act
of hijacking the aircraft

same thing happened to 8 of our own navy pilots
a long long time ago after some planes went missing and they
were the search squad....NONE of them were ever found again.

spence 03-18-2014 10:28 AM

Some interesting remarks by pilots I read today. They suspect the front tires caught on fire on take off or a fire started in another manner. The captain would know what airport options he had in case of an emergency and entered this into the autopilot first thing. Then they'd start shutting down systems to isolate the issue. Pilots get overwhelmed by smoke and are knocked out...the plane then continues on autopilot until it runs out of gas.

There is an ideal airport on the new heading they took...they would have flown right over it.

Doesn't answer everything but it is a plausible scenario.

-spence


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