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Clammer 02-01-2015 05:06 PM

I love head ><><><><,:exp:

Raider Ronnie 02-02-2015 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1063703)
It will come to a head soon.

Still think it's going to come to a head ?
Not only highest rated super bowl ever, highest rated TV show ever.
Think all the inflategate nonsense had anything to do with it ?
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Raven 02-02-2015 05:21 PM

controversy sells

wader-dad 05-06-2015 04:08 PM

Those Texts are hilarious. Got some real geniuses working for you.

MakoMike 05-06-2015 04:48 PM

"Likely," "most probably" "known in general"

Why didn't they just come out and say they couldn't determine what happened?

Sea Dangles 05-06-2015 05:58 PM

People like Slip and Spence who thought there was no involvement from Brady have their head in smelly places.

That being said,this really amounts to nothing. We are still Super Bowl Champs so the rest of the country can suck it
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Slipknot 05-06-2015 08:46 PM

smelly places, right
worse than eel slime smell
I am fine with supporting my team and being loyal
no definitive evidence, all circumstantial
the league knows how to cover their arse hiring wells, like that conclusion is impartial. It was a Witch Hunt, follow the evidence, it clearly shows who accused who and who knew about the sting operation. I'll have to read the report.
bunch on non sense like I said , and over a 50 cent crime.
I still want to know when the Vikings will get punished for warming up balls even after the refs told them to stop??? consistency? I think not

Slipknot 05-06-2015 08:57 PM

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ramming-league

wdmso 05-07-2015 04:32 AM

WOW to use the word evidence in an investigation .. and then present a conclusion of Probably in is just short of amazing!

( did or didn't should be the only to acceptable answers )

some Patriots staff probably deflated balls

"Based on the evidence, it also is our view that it is more probable than not that Tom Brady was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities

piemma 05-07-2015 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1072236)
That being said,this really amounts to nothing. We are still Super Bowl Champs so the rest of the country can suck it
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Exactly! Well stated Chris.

Raven 05-07-2015 06:17 AM

wanted posters should be everywhere
with Wells mug shot on them
for he is guilty of the crime of
grosley exaggerated endangerment
of the TRUTH in this feeble report

afterhours 05-07-2015 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1072236)
That being said,this really amounts to nothing. We are still Super Bowl Champs so the rest of the country can suck it
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yup, loser nation cries again. you can safely bet your last dollar that EVERY qb in the nfl has the balls " adjusted to their liking".

zimmy 05-07-2015 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Raven (Post 1063369)
i wanna know what the name is of that hater beotch reporter that asked Tom to apologize @ the press conference.

It was the weather

Raider Ronnie 05-07-2015 10:18 AM

You Pats fans need to embrace cheating rather than being so defensive about it.
Did Tom know the balls were underinflated, Absolutely!
Did Tom request them that way, Most likely !
Who the hell cares.
Every qb in the league probably does the same.
denying it has just made things worse.
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PaulS 05-07-2015 10:27 AM

Brady's agent said the investigation was "flawed". I guess he knew it would be and that is why Brady refused to release his text messages.

DZ 05-07-2015 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1072288)
Brady's agent said the investigation was "flawed". I guess he knew it would be and that is why Brady refused to release his text messages.

You're right, If Hillary won't why should Brady? How long you figuere it will be before the NFL announces penalties?

PaulS 05-07-2015 12:19 PM

prob. bc they know that Brady talked on the phone and traded text messaes with the deflator (even thought he denied knowing the guy).

MAKAI 05-07-2015 12:46 PM

Don't know why the deflators even turned over their phones.
It's personal and private. This isn't a criminal investigation.
Last time I checked all conversation is considered private anyway.
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DZ 05-07-2015 12:54 PM

Patrick just posted this on Facebook - its a great perspective on what some may call cheating and others call it "gaining a competitive advantage".

http://yourteamcheats.com/

The Dad Fisherman 05-07-2015 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1072254)
"Based on the evidence, it also is our view that it is more probable than not that Tom Brady was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities

I read this line and then started seeing some of the idiots talking about suspending Brady for the season.

Then I remember they had a video of Ray Rice dragging his unconscious girlfriend out of an Elevator and Goodell suspends him for 4 games.

Didn't actually suspend him for the season until a second video actually showing him punching her in the face surfaced. Like there wasn't enough evidence from the 1st video to really punish the guy....

. No
. Friggin
CLue

Raven 05-07-2015 03:18 PM

ya know, ....it's a two way street
they wanna mess with Pats Fans
and Basically they already have insulted the whole team
we can boycott anything that's non Patriots
including ANYTHING they try to sell
and not watch NFL Commercials
we number in the millions

Piscator 05-07-2015 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MAKAI (Post 1072299)
Don't know why the deflators even turned over their phones.
It's personal and private. This isn't a criminal investigation.
Last time I checked all conversation is considered private anyway.
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I read they turned phone over because phose were property of the Patriots. Brady's is personal so that appears to be the difference.

spence 05-07-2015 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Piscator (Post 1072330)
I read they turned phone over because phose were property of the Patriots. Brady's is personal so that appears to be the difference.

Also, do you think Brady would have risked his personal conversations and even photos being out of his control unless it was subpoened?

Not a chance with all the haters out there.
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spence 05-07-2015 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1072236)
People like Slip and Spence who thought there was no involvement from Brady have their head in smelly places.

That being said,this really amounts to nothing. We are still Super Bowl Champs so the rest of the country can suck it
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Reading the report I'm not sure I can even tell what it he was involved with.
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Piscator 05-08-2015 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1072333)
Also, do you think Brady would have risked his personal conversations and even photos being out of his control unless it was subpoened?

Not a chance with all the haters out there.
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Agree 100%. I would have done the same thing.
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Raider Ronnie 05-08-2015 05:51 AM

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Poor Tom .......

Sea Dangles 05-08-2015 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1072334)
Reading the report I'm not sure I can even tell what it he was involved with.
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Shocking
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Ed B 05-08-2015 11:30 AM

The NFL desperately needs a diversion right now to take the attention off much more serious issues like brain injuries, felons on the field, and guys beatin on women. Brady gives them that diversion and Goodell is waking up every morning thankful to the press for talking about air pressure.

If you want to talk cheating how bout those sticky gloves receivers wear. Or google Lester Hayes for some old time stickum photos.

spence 05-08-2015 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1072355)
Shocking
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Can you? All these text appear to have the potential for multiple contexts.

GregW 05-08-2015 12:59 PM

Who cares???
It's a game. And they used a "scientific consulting firm" that was also quoted as saying cigarette smoke can't cause cancer.
I'm not political at all- but I find it insane that Tom Brady not handing over his cell phone for an investigation about the psi of a football gets more coverage than Hillary deleting all her emails surrounding her investigation that literally cost lives. People need lives or to re-order their priorities.

Rockport24 05-08-2015 01:06 PM

amen Greg!!! If people put as much energy into productive things as they do into stupid professional sports, the world would be a much better place. Watch the games, be entertained and be done with it. It's not like fishing - we obsess over every little detail on these pages and it results in everybody being a better fisherman - real results! Sports fans obsess over every little detail and where does it get them? An overall more stupid population that would much rather see their children succeed at sports than academics.

Sea Flat 05-08-2015 01:37 PM

The NFL hires a firm to do the investigating. So surprising that the NFL has been found with no fault at all for how they botched this up. Two pressure gages with two different results. Colts footballs having 3 of 4 tested under inflated with one of the gages. NFL screwed this up so bad it's embarrassing. Even if the Pats did do something wrong the NFL's dealing with it on AFC Championship game day could not have been worse.

Raider Ronnie 05-08-2015 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed B (Post 1072382)
The NFL desperately needs a diversion right now to take the attention off much more serious issues like brain injuries, felons on the field, and guys beatin on women. Brady gives them that diversion and Goodell is waking up every morning thankful to the press for talking about air pressure.

If you want to talk cheating how bout those sticky gloves receivers wear. Or google Lester Hayes for some old time stickum photos.



You may want to do some research to get your facts correct.
it was Fred Biletnikoff who started using Stickum.
Lester Hayes started using it later.
At the time it was not against any rules. Look it up !
Same goes for the forward fumble rule that the Raiders used as an advantage but not against the rules at the time.
Then you had Ben Davidson using his hand and forearm as a club knocking guys out, again not against any rule at the time.
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Raven 05-08-2015 03:41 PM

[QUOTE=Rockport24;1072388 If people put as much energy into productive things as they do into stupid professional sports, the world would be a much better place. Sports fans obsess over every little detail and where does it get them? An overall more stupid population that would much rather see their children succeed at sports than academics.[/QUOTE]

well said..... brawling over\after soccer matches comes to mind....

Ed B 05-08-2015 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1072394)
You may want to do some research to get your facts correct.
it was Fred Biletnikoff who started using Stickum.
Lester Hayes started using it later.
At the time it was not against any rules. Look it up !
Same goes for the forward fumble rule that the Raiders used as an advantage but not against the rules at the time.
Then you had Ben Davidson using his hand and forearm as a club knocking guys out, again not against any rule at the time.
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I know the facts Ron, Thanks. No one thought anyone would take it to the bizzaro extremes it was taken to which was why it was banned. So now it's officially against the rules, but the reasonable person would certainly have considered it cheating before the rule was instituted.

wader-dad 05-08-2015 04:06 PM

I think its the Patriots that should be fined just for having this roque moron McNally work for them.

At 6:30 with 10 minutes till kickoff, McNally decides to take the approved and marked bag of balls out of the Officials Locker room (that has a bathroom with 3 urinals and 3 toilets) and without permission takes them down the tunnel and into a single bathroom to what he said latter was to use the urinal there during the mysterious 1 minute and 40 seconds. But Genius was told during questioning that there was no urinal in that bathroom so he had to change his story a few times.

So with 5 minutes to kickoff, the officials cannot find the balls, they have an officials run back to get the back up balls and finally they see McNally and the balls on the sidelines.

So we have an AFC Championship game where they cannot find the Patriot balls when 50 million people are ready to watch the game.

I think McNally may have acted alone because he is that nuts.

Raider Ronnie 05-08-2015 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wader-dad (Post 1072403)
I think its the Patriots that should be fined just for having this roque moron McNally work for them.

At 6:30 with 10 minutes till kickoff, McNally decides to take the approved and marked bag of balls out of the Officials Locker room (that has a bathroom with 3 urinals and 3 toilets) and without permission takes them down the tunnel and into a single bathroom to what he said latter was to use the urinal there during the mysterious 1 minute and 40 seconds. But Genius was told during questioning that there was no urinal in that bathroom so he had to change his story a few times.

So with 5 minutes to kickoff, the officials cannot find the balls, they have an officials run back to get the back up balls and finally they see McNally and the balls on the sidelines.

So we have an AFC Championship game where they cannot find the Patriot balls when 50 million people are ready to watch the game.

I think McNally may have acted alone because he is that nuts.


McNally may be nuts but Brady was also nuts saying he didn't know him when that was a lie.

Raider Ronnie 05-08-2015 08:09 PM

Interesting.......


http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/t...ort_code=2yf49

Cool Beans 05-08-2015 08:47 PM

whatever the suspension is.... I hope Brady gets mad.. comes back and jams it up everyone's ace and goes undefeated for his remaining games, and RUN-UP the damn scores as high as possible.

I want to see games with scores like 65 to 7....


:patshelmet:

Slipknot 05-08-2015 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1072404)
McNally may be nuts but Brady was also nuts saying he didn't know him when that was a lie.

Not true
That is taken out of context

If you follow the question , it was worded at a previous time
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