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buckman 02-23-2015 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by piemma (Post 1065536)
I really believe the answer is GAME FISH STATUS!

No kill for the next 3 years, no commercial ever again and make the fish a game fish with NO commercial sale or commercial (restaurant or market) consumption. This would also solve the "black market" as if you can't buy it in an eating establishment, the black market would almost disappear.

Florida did it with Snook and Tarpon and no have a world class fishery.

Want to buy a beautiful downeast charter boat ? You'll do well selling the experience;)
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ivanputski 02-23-2015 09:12 AM

Buckman... buddy... read the first word of my response.

ANYONE... be it rec, charter, my father, WHOEVER.

Geez this is worse than talking politics at thanksgiving dinner with my aunt

zimmy 02-23-2015 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 1065535)
they think they know better than everybody else.

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Not everybody else. Just a tiny, but very influential faction and the regulators they manipulate.

DZ 02-23-2015 09:43 AM

The reason I posted this old column was to give historical perspective on how various states approached the issue and just how contentious it was. I remember going to this meeting and many, many, others. I spoke often with Dawson and Othote about the issue. Trap fisherman George Mendonsa was unapproachable, and at one point he and other commercial striped bass representatives on the council ran afoul of state “conflict of interest” laws but were later cleared. One of the major differences between then and now was that the entire rec community united for more conservative regs. For the record I don’t believe current striped bass fishing to be as bad as it was back then – yet. But I’m convinced that if fishermen back then had the benefit of today’s fish finding electronics technology and social media, then the bass would have taken even longer to recover or may not have recovered at all.

zimmy 02-23-2015 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DZ (Post 1065544)
For the record I don’t believe current striped bass fishing to be as bad as it was back then – yet.

It isn't as bad, yet. That is why we need major action now. I was a kid during the moratorium days. I spent summers on the upper Chesapeake. My dad talked about how they used to catch stripers on the bay in the 50, 60's, and 70's. That was as foreign to me as the concept of elk being common in the east 250 years ago. The first stripers we saw on the bay post collapse was around 1987 and all of the adults were elated.

My uncle is still on the bay from May-Nov and he reports that the past fall was good. This is always pretty much exclusively a schoolie fishery and the 2011 class is strong. There is a chance to prevent a collapse and that is the point. Reactive management is almost universally ineffective. If that 2011 class gets hammered in a couple of years and the big fish continue to be picked off by the boats, it is over.

redlite 02-23-2015 12:43 PM

I just read the article and the name lou othote slapped me in the face as he is a dear friend and we fish often together, even commercially and immediately called him as he doesnt use computers and got his perspective on the then vs now similarities/ differences.
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DZ 02-23-2015 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by redlite (Post 1065553)
I just read the article and the name lou othote slapped me in the face as he is a dear friend and we fish often together, even commercially and immediately called him as he doesnt use computers and got his perspective on the then vs now similarities/ differences.
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Wow - please give him my regards red.

piemma 02-23-2015 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by redlite (Post 1065553)
I just read the article and the name lou othote slapped me in the face as he is a dear friend and we fish often together, even commercially and immediately called him as he doesnt use computers and got his perspective on the then vs now similarities/ differences.
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Next time you talk to Lou, mention my name. Lou and I were duck hunting partners in the 70s. Old, dear friend.

redlite 02-23-2015 03:01 PM

Dz and paul will do.
He is a good man.
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Slipknot 02-26-2015 11:52 AM

check out this old thread from the past

http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...ead.php?t=2270


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