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Nebe 11-30-2015 10:00 PM

What is it exactly that the black lives matter people want anyway?
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justplugit 11-30-2015 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1087552)
The Scout Law isn't just some words to memorize for a sign off......it's a Blue Print.

I always tell my scouts when I do a scout masters conference with them that if they have a choice to make......bounce it against the points of the Scout Law......if their decision doesn't violate any of the points.....it's probably a good one.
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The Scouts Law worth repeating and always timely in life.

A Scout is:
Trustworthy
Loyal
Helpful
Friendly
Courteous
Kind
Obedient
Cheerful
Thrifty
Brave
Clean
Reverent.

Go ahead, tell me what's wrong with that.

Still after 70 years I remember The Boy Scouts Motto:
On my honor I will do my best do my duty to God and my Country.

What not PC enough ?? pffft

FishermanTim 11-30-2015 10:32 PM

Scouting develops personal responsibility in the youth and allows them to learn and grow in a nurturing environment.

Currently most inner city youth have their responsibilities set by their absent parents, TV and the web. In other words, they have no structure or direction and follow whatever charlatans get their attention.

I agree with the analogy regarding black kids in good families compared to white kids in bad families.

When you add peer pressure (from other kids making bad choices)to the basic problems most kids are faced with, you have the problem compounded.

When families lose track of what really is important they end up having to pick up the pieces after the damage has been done.

JohnR 11-30-2015 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1087543)
That's a very wise and astute observation, and I bet The Dad Fisherman agrees.

I have said for years if you give us 100 kids, 98 will come out better for it.I remember things to this day I learned as the longest tenured Tenderfoot in scouting.

The other great thing about scouting (and other positive organizations) is that these kids will get a better peer group in school and out of school. Plus they may be able to defeat the Zombie Apocalypse.

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1087552)
The Scout Law isn't just some words to memorize for a sign off......it's a Blue Print.

I always tell my scouts when I do a scout masters conference with them that if they have a choice to make......bounce it against the points of the Scout Law......if their decision doesn't violate any of the points.....it's probably a good one.
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:uhuh:

JohnR 11-30-2015 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 1087556)
Go ahead, tell me what's wrong with that.

Still after 70 years I remember The Boy Scouts Motto:
On my honor I will do my best do my duty to God and my Country.

What not PC enough ?? pffft

You are in your 80s? Hahaha j/k

Jim in CT 12-01-2015 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1087552)
The Scout Law isn't just some words to memorize for a sign off......it's a Blue Print.


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Exactly correct. This is an organization whose purpose for existance, is to make childhood a little more wholesome and fun, and to give kids the "blue print" they need to be caring, generous, productive, successful, happy adults. And how does the left treat the scouts? Does it thank the scouts for all they good they do? Hell, no! Again, as usual, the left ignores what the scouts actually stand for, and paint them as hate-mongering bigots. Because if more people embraced the values instilled by the scouts, fewer people would be miserable and dependent, and therefore, fewer people would vote Democrat. The left has its own blue priunt for dealing with such groups - paint them as hatemongers.

Jackbass 12-01-2015 09:30 AM

Sounds like our urban gangs are turning into Mexican Cartels.

Just #^&#^&#^&#^&ing disgusting.
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justplugit 12-01-2015 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1087562)
You are in your 80s? Hahaha j/k


3 and 1/2 years away until 80, John, no joke, I was a Cub Scout at age 7.

So kind of you to remind me. :grins:

Looks like you may be slipping yourself, you forgot to post
that freeeking dementia time clock already. LOL :btu:

justplugit 12-01-2015 10:44 AM

BTW John, another Boy Scout rule for you to think about
as YOU grow older, "Be Prepared". :hihi:

Jim in CT 12-01-2015 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1087562)
You are in your 80s? Hahaha j/k

When I was a kid, I did cub scouts up until Weblos. For some reason, all my friends declined to continue in Boy Scouts.

When I was in elemantary school, we might have had 2 or 3 classrooms for each grade. And I bet each classroom, within each grade, had a den or pack or whatever the smaller unit was. But there were always a ton of kids at school in the uniform, because they'd go to one family's house right from school for the meeting.

In the town where I live now, which is a great town for kids to grow up in, it's FAR less popular. But fortunately it is still around. I hope all 3 of my boys love it.

As I get deeper and deeper into parenting, i am less and less interested in spending all my time getting them involved in traditional sports. If any of my kids wants to play travel baseball 6 days a week, i will support that, but I'm not bringing it up or suggesting it. I'd rather expose them to things that will provide lifelong benefits (scouting, karate), or at least expose them to sports (like tennis) that they can do forever.

John and TDF, I think you really nailed it by bringing up scouting. No one wants to hear that there is an almost sure-fired solution, but that solution involves discipline and work. Liberalism is based more on the philosophy of "if it feels good, do it, and don't expect me to face the consequences".

I wonder how many families that are heavily involved in scouting, are truly dysfunctional. Not nearly as much dysfunctionality as the average family, I am certain of that.

Rockport24 12-01-2015 12:31 PM

The other key thing about scouting is that it probably provides positive role models for these kids. Unfortunately the culture in a lot of these inner cities values athletes or rappers, that is the only way "out" to a lot of these kids and that's sad because its nearly impossible to make it in either one of those fields.
There is a lot of good work going on in these areas, but obviously not enough. For all the resources Obama wants to put into more free housing and more EBT cards and other handouts, why not invest in more programs (like scouting) or other boys and girls club types things that keeps these kids off the streets? why don't more of these black lives matter people put their energy towards things like that instead of showing their kids that police are to blame for all of their problems.

tysdad115 12-01-2015 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockport24 (Post 1087594)
why don't more of these black lives matter people put their energy towards things like that instead of showing their kids that police are to blame for all of their problems.

Because we as a society have failed. They have been told it is someone elses fault, there is no accountability anymore, especially by the BLM clowns. The" poor little kid was just turning his life around" Criminals are the victims, forced into that life. That is liberal logic right there.

Nebe 12-01-2015 04:47 PM

What if I told you that black anger has been fueled by the music industry who's ceo's have heavily invested in privately owned prisons ?

More anger... More crime... More profits !

http://raprehab.com/facts-about-hip-...on-for-profit/


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basswipe 12-01-2015 05:07 PM

HANDS UP!!!

Its all BS,the movement should be called Black Lies Matter.Their only agenda is to promote hatred among the black community towards whites and in particular white police officers.To the point that this group has called for killings of police and has success in this calling.

Domestic terrorist org as far as I'm concerned.

Have at it boys.

Nebe 12-01-2015 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by basswipe (Post 1087609)
HANDS UP!!!

Its all BS,the movement should be called Black Lies Matter.Their only agenda is to promote hatred among the black community towards whites and in particular white police officers.To the point that this group has called for killings of police and has success in this calling. Which will send more blacks to prison, since in recent times Marajuana laws have been relaxed.

Domestic terrorist org as far as I'm concerned.

Have at it boys.

I fixed it for you.

JohnR 12-01-2015 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1087586)

John and TDF, I think you really nailed it by bringing up scouting. No one wants to hear that there is an almost sure-fired solution, but that solution involves discipline and work. Liberalism is based more on the philosophy of "if it feels good, do it, and don't expect me to face the consequences".

I wonder how many families that are heavily involved in scouting, are truly dysfunctional. Not nearly as much dysfunctionality as the average family, I am certain of that.

A lot of it is about being good role models to kids - particularly the bigger kids to the younger kids, and showing the kids how a little training and doing can be great tools in life. This is particularly beneficial to the kids with single / divorced parents. I was one of those kids and that and (believe it or not) a good environment with other good kids helped me a lot.


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Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 1087584)
BTW John, another Boy Scout rule for you to think about
as YOU grow older, "Be Prepared". :hihi:

:rotf2:

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Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 1087583)
3 and 1/2 years away until 80, John, no joke, I was a Cub Scout at age 7.

See - I thought you were just failing a little at math but rounding up (slightly) is acceptable :tooth:

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1087608)
What if I told you that black anger has been fueled by the music industry who's ceo's have heavily invested in privately owned prisons ?

More anger... More crime... More profits !

Hip Hop and the music industry, bastions of right wingers.

Fly Rod 12-02-2015 10:04 AM

Fishing has come to an end here and most have pulled their boats....small whale spotted just of the shore feeding causing traffic jam on the roadway....lot of whales reported on the northwest corner of the bank.....:)

basswipe 12-02-2015 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1087613)
I fixed it for you.

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Which will send more blacks to prison, since in recent times Marajuana laws have been relaxed.
See......you get it man.

Though you did spell marijuana wrong.:laughs::smokin:

Nebe 12-02-2015 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by basswipe (Post 1087699)
See......you get it man.

Though you did spell marijuana wrong.:laughs::smokin:

Sheeeeeet man. No weed for me!
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