Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating (http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/index.php)
-   Political Threads (http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/forumdisplay.php?f=66)
-   -   Banning guns for those on the terror watchlist (http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/showthread.php?t=89667)

Jim in CT 12-14-2015 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tysdad115 (Post 1088670)
I'd love to see where a 12 year old can buy an uzi.

They can't, because it's against the law. That's what I am talking about, when I say that we need common sense gun laws.

You seem like the type of Dad I am trying to be, and if they were all like you, we wouldn't need any laws at all. But they aren't, and we do.

Jim in CT 12-14-2015 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1088679)
Does the Second Amendment have an age restriction?

It does not, which has always made me wonder why the NRA hasn't challenged laws with age restrictions. Maybe even the NRA has limits to its greed. I don't have another answer.

detbuch 12-14-2015 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1088686)
It does not, which has always made me wonder why the NRA hasn't challenged laws with age restrictions. Maybe even the NRA has limits to its greed. I don't have another answer.

Actually the Constitution does impose an age restriction. It is one which, in effect, imposes that restriction on those under the age of eighteen. That is the age which the 26th Amendment gives citizens the right to vote which cannot be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State.

Ergo, the Constitution, in effect (the right to vote being the signature of full citizenship), does not grant those under that age the full rights granted to those who have not reached that age of majority. Wikipedia: "The age of majority is the threshold of adulthood as it is conceptualized (and recognized or declared) in law. It is the chronological moment when minors cease to legally be considered children and assume control over their persons, actions, and decisions, thereby terminating the legal control and legal responsibilities of their parents or guardian over and for them. Most countries set majority at 18."

That is all to say that various "adult" rights, such as the right to bear arms, are not guaranteed to minors, but can be granted or restricted by different levels of government.

Jim in CT 12-15-2015 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1088692)
Actually the Constitution does impose an age restriction. It is one which, in effect, imposes that restriction on those under the age of eighteen. That is the age which the 26th Amendment gives citizens the right to vote which cannot be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State.

Ergo, the Constitution, in effect (the right to vote being the signature of full citizenship), does not grant those under that age the full rights granted to those who have not reached that age of majority. Wikipedia: "The age of majority is the threshold of adulthood as it is conceptualized (and recognized or declared) in law. It is the chronological moment when minors cease to legally be considered children and assume control over their persons, actions, and decisions, thereby terminating the legal control and legal responsibilities of their parents or guardian over and for them. Most countries set majority at 18."

That is all to say that various "adult" rights, such as the right to bear arms, are not guaranteed to minors, but can be granted or restricted by different levels of government.

Well stated as usual.

Raven 12-16-2015 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckman (Post 1088622)
Lmao . I swear Spence , you need to patent those Obama colored sunglasses . Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

hey those would sell like HOT cakes
with Aunt Jemaah syrup
do they come in ROSE color

spence 12-16-2015 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1088692)
Actually the Constitution does impose an age restriction. It is one which, in effect, imposes that restriction on those under the age of eighteen. That is the age which the 26th Amendment gives citizens the right to vote which cannot be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State.

Ergo, the Constitution, in effect (the right to vote being the signature of full citizenship), does not grant those under that age the full rights granted to those who have not reached that age of majority. Wikipedia: "The age of majority is the threshold of adulthood as it is conceptualized (and recognized or declared) in law. It is the chronological moment when minors cease to legally be considered children and assume control over their persons, actions, and decisions, thereby terminating the legal control and legal responsibilities of their parents or guardian over and for them. Most countries set majority at 18."

That is all to say that various "adult" rights, such as the right to bear arms, are not guaranteed to minors, but can be granted or restricted by different levels of government.

All the 26th Amendment does is prohibit states from restricting voting for those over the age of 17. If you're 18 or 19 or 20 you're a voting adult and still under federal law prohibited from buying a hand gun for instance...Many states even allow minors to own long guns as well.

detbuch 12-16-2015 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1088774)
All the 26th Amendment does is prohibit states from restricting voting for those over the age of 17. If you're 18 or 19 or 20 you're a voting adult and still under federal law prohibited from buying a hand gun for instance...Many states even allow minors to own long guns as well.

How does that differ from what I said? "That is all to say that various "adult" rights, such as the right to bear arms, are not guaranteed to minors, but can be granted or restricted by different levels of government."

As far as the federal government restricting gun rights for those over 17, the federal government has a long history of encroaching on the Second Amendment.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:58 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 1998-20012 Striped-Bass.com