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Jim in CT 03-13-2016 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1096092)
This is the problem Jim, you seem to think there's one conservative ideology. People who self describe as conservatives can have wildly different beliefs.

hy did you paint us with the mysoginy label? I was responding to you. You make a generalization, I point out that you are full of crap, then you say generalizations are wrong, or something...

buckman 03-13-2016 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1096100)
Hollywood is conservative??

Reality never gets in the way of a liberal argument .
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Nebe 03-13-2016 04:16 PM

Remember the days of black exploitation movies?

But to directly answer Jim, no it's not. But do the research on the record industry and private prisons. It will make your head spin.
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wdmso 03-13-2016 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1096090)
"funny a google search shows nothing about your claim 7 people have been murdered by Sharpton supporters at Sharpton events"

Wow, I guess you caught me in a lie.

Wait, you didn't. Read #6 and 7.


http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/sha.../09/id/612015/

"and if really think its only been 4 people assaulted because I only posted 4 links "

But zero deaths. But Sharpton gets a TV show on a liberal network. And Trump (who has caused zero deaths) isn't allowed to speak.

Wow that's some mental gymnastics he speaks and weeks or months later someone resorts to arson and kill. 7 no fan of Al but show me where he suggested to kill or assault anyone

TRUMP on the other hand has expressed his williness to assault others and these assaults happen during his events not weeks or months later


Al sharpton and Donald trump both classless self promoting A Holes
If you closed your eyes you couldn't tell them apart

Jim in CT 03-13-2016 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1096112)
Wow that's some mental gymnastics he speaks and weeks or months later someone resorts to arson and kill. 7 no fan of Al but show me where he suggested to kill or assault anyone

TRUMP on the other hand has expressed his williness to assault others and these assaults happen during his events not weeks or months later


Al sharpton and Donald trump both classless self promoting A Holes
If you closed your eyes you couldn't tell them apart

"he speaks and weeks or months later someone resorts to arson and kill. 7"

If the guy was inspired by Sharpton, he was inspired by Sharpton. And I see you completely skipped the one where Sharpton got the crowd good and crazy, and one of them found the nearest white guy, and stabbed him to death.

"no fan of Al but show me where he suggested to kill or assault anyone "

He doesn't use those words, the facts show he doesn't have to.

"Al sharpton and Donald trump both classless self promoting A Holes"

Agreed. So tell me, why do liberals give Sharpton his own show, but those same idiots don't feel Trump has the sane right to spew garbage? That's the hypocrisy that as led to Trump's rise.

JohnR 03-13-2016 09:07 PM

Jim

I have two source rules, one is don't quote Newsmax for news and don't quote OccupyDemocrats for any chase of reality.

Jim in CT 03-14-2016 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1096127)
Jim

I have two source rules, one is don't quote Newsmax for news and don't quote OccupyDemocrats for any chase of reality.

OK...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Sha...n_Heights_riot

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/flas...-mart-massacre

buckman 03-14-2016 06:51 AM

I will have to say I find it ironic and hilarious that Hillary Clinton stated Donald Trump should be held responsible for the violence at his rallies.
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wdmso 03-14-2016 07:26 AM

Men its very simple when one makes statements at his events such as

"I love the old days, you know what they used to do to guys like that when they were in a place like this? They'd be carried out in a stretcher, folks," Trump had said of one protester. Then: "I'd like to punch him in the face, I'll tell you."
If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously. Okay? Just knock the hell — I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees."

He also said that the young man who was sucker-punched in North Carolina had been "taunting," "loud" and "disruptive," and was holding up his middle finger — "a terrible thing to do."

And even his fellow Republicans see whats going on or are they just being liberals and being politically correct

America is better than this. We don't have to tear each other apart," Texas Sen. Ted Cruz said. "When you have a campaign that disrespects the voters, when you have a campaign that affirmatively encourages violence, when you have campaign that is facing allegations of physical violence against members of the press, you create an environment that only encourages this sort of nasty discourse."


Kasich said during a stop in Cincinnati that there's "no place for a national leader to prey on the fears of people."


This is going down a road the United States has never traveled but it has the potential change this country overnight .. for the good or the bad we'll have to wait and see

spence 03-14-2016 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 1096131)
I will have to say I find it ironic and hilarious that Hillary Clinton stated Donald Trump should be held responsible for the violence at his rallies.
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It's crazy right? You yell fire and everyone runs out of the theater. Who would have thought?

buckman 03-14-2016 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1096137)
Men its very simple when one makes statements at his events such as

"I love the old days, you know what they used to do to guys like that when they were in a place like this? They'd be carried out in a stretcher, folks," Trump had said of one protester. Then: "I'd like to punch him in the face, I'll tell you."
If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously. Okay? Just knock the hell — I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees."

He also said that the young man who was sucker-punched in North Carolina had been "taunting," "loud" and "disruptive," and was holding up his middle finger — "a terrible thing to do."

And even his fellow Republicans see whats going on or are they just being liberals and being politically correct

America is better than this. We don't have to tear each other apart," Texas Sen. Ted Cruz said. "When you have a campaign that disrespects the voters, when you have a campaign that affirmatively encourages violence, when you have campaign that is facing allegations of physical violence against members of the press, you create an environment that only encourages this sort of nasty discourse."


Kasich said during a stop in Cincinnati that there's "no place for a national leader to prey on the fears of people."


This is going down a road the United States has never traveled but it has the potential change this country overnight .. for the good or the bad we'll have to wait and see

I partially agree but it didn't start with Trump as this has been escalating over the past 8 years and President Obama has been fanning the flames .
Read Kasicj's quote again .
When violent agitators are deliberately sent in a violent response is predictable if not expected , even hoped for . I believe you are one of this hoping .
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PaulS 03-14-2016 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 1096071)
At least we are on the same page that if you throw a punch first you deserve a beat down , but I'll go one better , if you get in someone's face and taunt them, you get what's coming also .
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Sort of like calling someone a Muslim when they aren't and saying they weren't born in the US, right?

PaulS 03-14-2016 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Slipknot (Post 1096026)
But the racist big got hate monger is already president so your point is flawed
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oh no, wait until Kevin sees this post.

spence 03-14-2016 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 1096140)
I partially agree but it didn't start with Trump as this has been escalating over the past 8 years and President Obama has been fanning the flames .
Read Kasicj's quote again .
When violent agitators are deliberately sent in a violent response is predictable if not expected , even hoped for . I believe you are one of this hoping .
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I love statements that seem to imply all our issues are less than 8 years old.

buckman 03-14-2016 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1096148)
I love statements that seem to imply all our issues are less than 8 years old.

Are you having a comprehension problem ?
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buckman 03-14-2016 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1096141)
Sort of like calling someone a Muslim when they aren't and saying they weren't born in the US, right?

No
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Jim in CT 03-14-2016 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1096148)
I love statements that seem to imply all our issues are less than 8 years old.

Spence, we weren't this divided when Bush was President, not even close. The seeds were planted during his term, specifically, when the public opinion turned against the Iraq War, at which time all the Dems that voted for it, were suddenly saying that it was evil and immoral (that's having the courage of your convictions).

We have never been as divided as we are now. If Trump gets elected, it could definitely get worse, as he's more polarizing, and in a more combustable way, than Obama.

Obama's divisiveness is a huge reason for Trumps popularity. For 8 years, Obama has been saying that people like me are racist, uncaring hatemongers. Despite what he says, and therefore despite what you certainly believe, it's not remotely true. We're tired of it, and it's very easy for me to understand why the masses are rallying around the one guy they think will punch back. For some reason, it's noble and admiranble when Obama hits below the belt (we're all bitter clingers, all we do is "hate all the time"), but when trump does it, he gets called out for it. Trump is more vulgar about it.

Sharpton is at least as bad as Trump (worse, if your measure is body count), and Obama invites him to the Oval Office 90 times? Care to explain that?

buckman 03-14-2016 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1096139)
It's crazy right? You yell fire and everyone runs out of the theater. Who would have thought?

That's a stretch
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Jim in CT 03-14-2016 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1096139)
It's crazy right? You yell fire and everyone runs out of the theater. Who would have thought?

Kind of like repeating over and over that "white cops are the problem", you can't then be surprised when white cops subsequently get assassinated.

I don't know who yelled "fire", but I do know who is endlessly blaming cops (Sharpton), and I know that Sharpton still spends more time in the Oval Office than the tour guides. And why shouldn't we all be appalled by that?

spence 03-14-2016 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1096154)
Sharpton is at least as bad as Trump (worse, if your measure is body count), and Obama invites him to the Oval Office 90 times? Care to explain that?

Sure, it's not true.

Jim in CT 03-14-2016 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1096181)
Sure, it's not true.

Just to be clear, which part isn't true? That Sharpton is loathsome? Or that he has been invited to the White House many times?

spence 03-14-2016 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1096184)
Just to be clear, which part isn't true? That Sharpton is loathsome? Or that he has been invited to the White House many times?

You said Sharpton has been invited to the Oval Office 90 times, it's not true...

Jim in CT 03-14-2016 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1096191)
You said Sharpton has been invited to the Oval Office 90 times, it's not true...

According to factcheck, he has been to the White House (which granted, is not the same as being invited to the Oval Office) at least 72 times as of December 2014.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...p-to-85-times/


(1) Is Sharpton objectionable to you?

if so, (2) Does it bother you that Obama legitimizes Sharpton in this way?

Have fun!

He's a loathsome, racist, tax-cheating pig. Every candidate on your side feels the need to kiss his ring.

buckman 03-14-2016 12:08 PM

I find it hypocritical that Trump can be blamed for inciting his supporters to physically attack protesters but the false rhetoric of his opposition ( The media, established politicians , Bernie and Hillary ) are not blamed for inciting the protesters .
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Nebe 03-14-2016 12:09 PM

I'm sorry buck but show us where anyone that you just listed called for violence as trump has. You can't.
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detbuch 03-14-2016 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1096194)
I'm sorry buck but show us where anyone that you just listed called for violence as trump has. You can't.
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I don't think Trump has actually "called" for violence. He's jokingly made reference to it as a response to violence or disruption directed at him. Similar to Obama's "call" for his supporters to bring a gun to a knife fight.

I would prefer not to be forced to vote for him, but if it's between him and Hillary, I won't just sit it out. I'll vote for him. I am politically opposed to what Hillary stands for. I don't really know what Trump stands for.

Hillary will have the full support of her party and its members in Congress and the Judges who already are in the progressive tank and those who will be when Congress approves her nominees.

Trump will have opposition in his own party and in the SCOTUS if he tries to be a dictatorial government control freak.

Jim in CT 03-14-2016 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1096195)
I don't think Trump has actually "called" for violence. He's jokingly made reference to it as a response to violence or disruption directed at him. Similar to Obama's "call" for his supporters to bring a gun to a knife fight.

I would prefer not to be forced to vote for him, but if it's between him and Hillary, I won't just sit it out. I'll vote for him. I am politically opposed to what Hillary stands for. I don't really know what Trump stands for.

Hillary will have the full support of her party and its members in Congress and the Judges who already are in the progressive tank and those who will be when Congress approves her nominees.

Trump will have opposition in his own party and in the SCOTUS if he tries to be a dictatorial government control freak.

"He's jokingly made reference to it as a response to violence or disruption directed at him"

Correct. It's classic Trump, and precisely why many, me included, don't like him. Though, like you, I'll plug my nose and vote for him if he gets the nomination.

"Similar to Obama's "call" for his supporters to bring a gun to a knife fight."

But when Obama does it, it's brilliant and eloquent. It's only crass when a conservative does it.

"Trump will have opposition in his own party and in the SCOTUS if he tries to be a dictatorial government control freak"

Thank God for checks and balances!

My fear is that if Trump is the nominee, he not only hands Hilary the White House, but he hands Congress back to the Dems (there are twice as many Republican Senate seats up for re-election, as Democrat, it's ripe for a Democrat takeover, House will be more likely stay with GOP).

scottw 03-14-2016 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1096195)

I don't think Trump has actually "called" for violence. He's jokingly made reference to it as a response to violence or disruption directed at him. Similar to Obama's "call" for his supporters to bring a gun to a knife fight.

Obama also told his supporters to go out and get into peoples faces...punish their enemies...I'm sure there's more....Trump is truly the white Obama...(though he's probably more qualified to be President that BO, and an even better community organizer(agitator))... ...funny how some have a problem with that all of a sudden......

ecduzitgood 03-14-2016 12:44 PM

"Fighting for us" is who's slogan?
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Jim in CT 03-14-2016 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1096197)
Trump is truly the white Obama.

Trump is 80% Obama, 20% Al Bundy.

Trump is a bit more crass and vulgar, but the tone is a LOT more Obama-esque, than you will ever hear the media admit.

scottw 03-14-2016 12:56 PM

"For five days and nights in August 1968, demonstrators fought street battles with Chicago police and National Guard troops, a badly split Democratic Party struggled to pick a presidential nominee and a horrified nation watched it all on the nightly news."


....lot's of examples through the years...many involving feces being hurled......what's wrong with these leftys??? :hihi:

spence 03-14-2016 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1096192)
According to factcheck, he has been to the White House (which granted, is not the same as being invited to the Oval Office) at least 72 times as of December 2014.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...p-to-85-times/

Did you read your own article? It totally debunks your own allegation.

buckman 03-14-2016 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1096194)
I'm sorry buck but show us where anyone that you just listed called for violence as trump has. You can't.
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It's not that they call for violence but they knowingly target thier radical, historically violent and hate filled groups with thier false accusations .

If the maker of the video that according to Hillary and her state department could result in an all out assault in Benghazi and the death of four great Americans , then I'm sure you will see my point

If Trump is assassinated , a very real possibility , based on the historic violent and radical nature of the the groups that support Bernie, is Bernie responsible ?
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spence 03-14-2016 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 1096202)
If Trump is assassinated , a very real possibility , based on the historic violent and radical nature of the the groups that support Bernie, is Bernie responsible ?
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I see you're parroting Trump's own nonsense now.

buckman 03-14-2016 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1096204)
I see you're parroting Trump's own nonsense now.

I never heard him say that . You don't have an intelligent response I see 😊
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The Dad Fisherman 03-14-2016 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1096142)
oh no, wait until Kevin sees this post.

As much as I don't really agree with that statement. I can tell you I am seriously disappointed, almost borderline disgusted, with the lack of leadership Obama has shown when it comes to racial issues in this country.

If MLK was alive 7 years ago he would have been brought to tears as his dream came to fruition with the election of a black man as president

If he was alive today he would have been brought to tears for how badly he has squandered that opportunity.
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Jim in CT 03-14-2016 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1096201)
Did you read your own article? It totally debunks your own allegation.

The article sa he has been to the White House at least 72 times, and that was as of 15 months ago.

Obama has admitted he brings him in to talk about race.

So I don't hitnk th earticle de-bunks anything I said, except possibly the exact count of the visits.

Who in their right mind, wants to hear ANYTHING that Sharpton has to say, on racial matters of all things? A President of the US, asking this guy's advice on race?

If you think he is to be called out for being a POS, you are a Republican, if you think he deserves to be respected and worshipped and legitimized, you are a Democrat. As usual, the air is a whole lot cleaner on my side.

Jim in CT 03-14-2016 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1096213)
As much as I don't really agree with that statement. I can tell you I am seriously disappointed, almost borderline disgusted, with the lack of leadership Obama has shown when it comes to racial issues in this country.

If MLK was alive 7 years ago he would have been brought to tears as his dream came to fruition with the election of a black man as president

If he was alive today he would have been brought to tears for how badly he has squandered that opportunity.
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We haven't been this divided in a long, long time. I know contribute to it as much as anyone. But there's no denying what you said.

MLK would have despised Rev Wright's "church", Obama sat there for 20 years, and only left when it was politically necessary for him to do so. MLK would have despised Bill Ayers' use of violence, yet Ayers was a political mentor to Obama.

spence 03-14-2016 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1096195)
I don't think Trump has actually "called" for violence. He's jokingly made reference to it as a response to violence or disruption directed at him. Similar to Obama's "call" for his supporters to bring a gun to a knife fight.

Can't believe you had a straight face when you typed that.

detbuch 03-14-2016 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1096226)
Can't believe you had a straight face when you typed that.

So what


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