Psssst. Since 9-11 happened the largest mass killings in the USA came from members of what religion ? Think hard now and leave towels around where you are sitting for when your brain explodes
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Sure they were.....they were called Al Qeada......and before that the Mujahideen

New name, New location, new game plan

The Cleveland Browns couldn't win a Super Bowl until they changed their name and moved :hee:
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is this another fun fact you got from whackjob.com?

Grab your towels.
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This one focuses on US mass shootings. In Europe all you have to do is know about the white supremest that killed hundreds at that youth summer camp on an island.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/25...?referer=&_r=0
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Yup just simple criminals . Enlighten us with your thoughts on these poor misguided souls agenda please .
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48 since 9/11 , hardly a trend .
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I think their agenda was to find some meaning in life. The brothers had both done time for organized crime...

That appears to be the standard operating procedure. Target disaffected youth with a promise of purpose, material gain and opportunity, then when they arrive put them through the radicalization regime.

Id call any period over 10 years a trend
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BTW - there have been evil Christians before, like evil Muslims. Does not mean all Muslims are evil and all Christians are evil. But I don't see many Muslims being efficient in confronting evil muslims.

However, radical Lutheranism has been curbed to manageable levels.

And a bunch of old names for 1000 years.


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"Cruz is a moron "

Tell that to Harvard Law Professor (and hard-core liberal) Alan Dershowitz, who says that Cruz was the brightest student he ever had.

"Fear it's what conservatives dish out"

Oh, I see. So when Obama ran on "hope and change", that's not trying to make anyone afraid of the other side. And when Hilary says that conservatives are opposed to women's health, that we hate blacks, Mexicans, homosexuals, poor people, old people, blah, blah, blah...that's not fear-mongering. Got it.

So we ignore the one common thread that the jihadists share, and pretend that an Amish person represents the same threat as a young Muslim man?

Spence, they say that 1% or 2% of Muslims are radicalized. So here is a very simple, yet very pertinent question for you.

I give your kids a bowl of 100 gummy bears. I tell you that 1 of them is poisoned and will kill whoever eats it. How many do you let your children eat, before you throw the bowl in the garbage?

Have fun with that.

The western, civilized world will soon find itself at a very real crossroads with this issue. If peaceful Muslims don't want to force westerners to a place with horrible, yet morally obvious, decisions to make...they need to find a way to deal with the devil in their midst.

Cruz is not a moron. The moron is the person who thinks he can trust him.
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Right. But it's un-moronic to trust the guy who promises free college, free world-class healthcare, and a unicorn in every backyard.

I trust Bernie a hell of a lot more than Cruz. Yes.
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Follow the campaign donations and you will see where all loyalty goes.
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All of Bernie's big donors are labor unions. Labor unions have done more than their fair share of damage to our economic/political landscape in the last 50 years. Here in CT, we see what happens when the politicians are beholden to labor unbions, and it ain't good.

Trust him to do what? Promote a socialist form of government? I would trust Bernie a lot more to promote socialism than I would trust Cruz to do so.

Cruz's campaign donors are far more diverse than Bernie's. So I would think that Cruz has a wider scope of loyalty and more people that he would be loyal to than Bernie.

diverse in what way? Income range of evangelical tea party members ?
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Diverse as in "diverse." Yea, that includes evangelicals. And small business owners, and Tea Partiers, and bigger businesses, and Constitutionalists, and small government types, and libertarians, and some rich folks, and many average folks.

I understand that you think "freedom" is a buzzword of fools. I suspect that Bernie supporters would agree with you. Maybe the range of diversity for either Cruz or Sanders can be compressed into "freedom" fools on the one hand, and socialist lap dogs on the other.

You're wrong. I view campaign contributions and super pace as legalized corruption.
Look at Cruz's view on climate change. Look at who some of his donors are...energy companies. Hmmmm
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Another sign of how brilliant he is .
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Bigot
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So according to you...if energy companies give hige $$ to Ted Cruz, that's bad. But if teschers unions give huge $$ to Bernie Sanders, that's no cause for alarm?

Because again, here in CT, God knows there is no downside to the fact that labor unions own most of the Dems in charge!

Hell yea!!!Jeff would make an awesome commentator!

Those trips up to Loudon twice a year would be so much more interesting!

Are campaign contributions to Sanders legalized corruption?

And what is the meaning of "corruption" to you? Is corruption something that hurts your point of view or your desired outcome?

So Cruz is not convinced that climate change is fueled by what you think. Does that make him corrupt. Oh, that's right, it makes him a fool. That's really egalitarian and democratic of you. He doesn't seem to be in the tank for energy companies. He wasn't afraid to oppose ethanol even when running in ethanol rich Iowa (and won there). And he is not against alternative energy. Here's an excerpt from a CNN article where he "does support alternative energy, as long as it comes from the private sector, not the federal government."

"We ought to be allowing the private sector to pursue every form of energy because the energy of the future, it's not going to come from the government picking winners and losers," Cruz told CNN.

"We ought to open up energy innovation across the board and - and remove the barriers to every form of energy."

You seem to favor the authoritarian view of statists that government is the agent who gets to dot all the i's and cross all the t's. That definitely is the socialist way.

BTW, Trump, according to your view on campaign contributions, is the least "corrupt" in that respect. And he is not beholden to energy companies or any other filthy rich bad people. And his supporters are also more diverse than Bernie's. Of course, according to you, I would guess, Trump and his supporters are also fools.

But Sanders is all pure, and trustworthy, and will make things better for all of us. Except not for the fools.

So Belgium has an open border and want to give religious freedoms to all. How did that work out? There are parts of Brussels that the police do not patrol or control,fearing for their safety. How do you fix this mess without profiling and bigotry and racism? Who would not start by keeping an eye on the Muslim community? Is it unconstitutional to target those who are passionate about their religion? If a horse has stripes it is usually a zebra.
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No thats the truth not fear mongering Conservatives are afraid of everything and everyone or have we not been paying attention ?

PS smart people can be morons.. cruz's statement is more than enough to make my point .. for a legal guy he has no issues doing illegal things like locking down Muslim neighborhood out of fear
The CBS hosts pressed Cruz on how he thinks it would logistically work to patrol 3 million American Muslims, who are not, as Cruz suggested, “ghetto-ized” in festering radical communities.

Cruz admitted, when asked by co-host Norah O’Donnell that he didn’t know how many Muslims lived in the United States.

“So you’re saying that law enforcement should surveil a number of Muslims and you don’t even know how many Muslims are in America,” she said.

Please note I am not saying this isn't a concern (terrorism) But it is Far from the 1# most dangerous issue America faces Unless your a Conservative a party where you can get Terrorism Immigration and weak Military and for additional introductory offer you can throw in for free Gun grabber Gay marriage or losing religious freedoms abortion or Planned parenthood>>> its like a comcast bundle all BS makes you feel like you got something :)

Yea anybody with a brain knows we should be more worried about climate change . The sky is falling !
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Specifically where?

Do you mean what street?
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Anything to substantiate your assertion is fine.

Spence, in a general sense, how would you address this? By asking them nicely to stop? By apologizing for everything we did to instigate them? By refusing to concede that 99% of the terrorists are confined to a common set of religious beliefs?

In world history, there have been a small number of situations, where a small number of lunatics wanted to enslave and/or kill everyone else. I don't know that appeasement has ever worked. In the end, it's bullets and bombs that work. I don't like that any more that you do, I just concede the necessity. You will do teh same, only after a sufficient number of innocent people have been slaughtered on the altar of political correctness.

Your intellectual bankruptcy is beyond imagination.

"No thats the truth not fear mongering Conservatives are afraid of everything and everyone or have we not been paying attention ?"

Yes, John McCain and Mitt Romney were a couple of hatemongers, while Obama the uniter has been mentored by tolerant love-filled folks such as Rev Wright and Bill Ayers.

Who are we afraid of, besides jihadists, exactly?

only ask them to answer a question if you want to be amused by the answer :wave:

Please elaborate on this, I had no idea???

How about this...you are one of the very, very few people on the planet, who will not (or cannot, not sure which it is) admit that Hilary has an issue with the truth.

On this thread you actually chastised those who are willing to use religion as a basis for terrorism policy, when every rational person in the world can see that one religion is creating 99% of the terrorists who threaten global security?

Along those lines, I asked you this question...if I gave your kids a bowl of 100 gummy bears and told you that exactly 1 was poisoned and would kill whoever eats it...how many would you let your kids eat, before you throw the whole bowl in the garbage? Can you answer that question, please?

Now, human beings aren't the equivalent of a bowl of gummy bears...but peaceful Muslims are freely choosing to be a part of this religion, and they are freely choosing (it seems) to not effectively deal with this problem.

Now, what is the primary responsibility of any governemnt? To protect its citizenry against conceiveable threats.

Spence, during our kids' lifetimes, there will be a reckoning between the Western world, and Islam. Our kids will ask us why we didn't deal with it, they'll ask why we dumped this at their feet. It will be a fair question.

Anyway, to answer your request for elaboration...you refuse to admit that any liberal is wrong on anything, ever. If that's not thoughtless, I don't know what is. I know a lot of peopple who are similarly thoughtless, you are one of the sharper ones, and from what I can tell, one of the more decent ones. Your refusal to criticize anything that they do, is difficult to process.

Plants don't grow without seeds. Find out what the seeds are that create terrorism and extremists in the first place and you will see that it isn't Islam but colonialism / Zionism and capitalism.
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oh...no....we've really lost him....right over the edge! :crying:

Should this carnage in Brussels have happened.....Brussels knew of these people since at least last summer and France too knew of their radicals prior to their attack...and as in California neighbors in Brussels thought their was something not right about their neigbors movement in and out of the apartmen they were in....nothing was reported to police of suspicious activity

Go to EL airlines in New york and U R scrutinized the moment U enter their terminal