I wouldn't say NAFTA has been a wild success but it hasn't "screwed" the American worker either. It's actually helped a lot of US based businesses create jobs here and kept a lot of manufacturing in the Americas versus Asia.

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Any treaty that sends any job across our borders screws American workers. And by workers I mean "the masses".

And all the savings? Right to the share holders and upper management. No wonder a ceo gets paid millions.
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:bs: coming from the guy who would piss on your leg and tell you it's raining

I guess everyone has an opinion, and some have been brainwashed with so much bull that they believe it

so keeping a job or 2 in Mexico or Central America instead of going to China helps the people and businesses in the US how exactly? Tell that to the folks who lost their jobs and are out of work

Clinton says it wasn't his fault, that's good enough for me! I seem to recall he also said that he didn't touch Monica Lewinski.


Spence, th earticle you posted, also says this..."there isn’t a single what-caused-the-crisis narrative that every economist accepts"

Yet in another thread, you said Bush caused the crash. Where did you get that from?

That hut some people, no doubt. Did it play a role in the 2008 crash?

"How then does a tax cut magically impact the year it's implemented"

I didn't say it did. I said the economy took off after that tax cut. And I was correct.

"Not to mention there's an already established vector?"

There was? From 1993-1995 growth ws a steady +2.5% average for those three years. Not much of a vector there that I see. Please explain? Then yes, it shot up in 1997, I am not going to claim I know why, because i don't.

If in 3 years before th ecut, GDP grew by 2.7, 2.4, and 2.7, please tell me how that's an "established vector" by which anyone in their right mind would ssume that growth would shoot up to 4% or more, and stay there? I'm all ears.

"It's time to fess up on your real job. Subway?"

I was a sandwich artist in college! Great job...I also worked at headquarters in Milford CT, doing data mining (looking to see when coupons worked, seeing what impact weather had on sandwich sales, things like that). I learned to look for patterns, or "verctors" as you correctly called it.

Spence, you claim that the following data points:

2.7
2.4
2.7

constitute an increasing trend. And you question my ability to analyze data. What teacher told you that those points represent an upward vector?

Enjoy.

true. But it helped the American consumer beyond belief, because things are so much cheaper.

We need to get out of the manufacturing mindset, and steer kids towards the best jobs that are likely to exist in the next 40 years. It's a bit more restrictive, but it's not impossible. Engineering, accounting, ANYTHING related to healthcare...

The savings also went to anyone who buys anything.

Or the trades . Also a lot of jobs are going to be lost in the next 10 years due to automation .

Spence , what government branch do you work for anyways ? I'm just curious .
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A) Your numbers are wrong and B) your data range is too small. As a hogie assembling number cruncher you should have known this.

Fixed.

So you are voting for Trump . You had us all fooled
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A. I posted my source, if you have th ecorrect numbers, please share.

B. YOU are the one who said there was an upward trending "vector", or something. All I said was that after the tax cut, the economy did very well. You are the only person I have ever heard dispute that. I see you didn't provide any supporting data.

I was better at assemblking sandwiches, and I liked that job a lot more.

the one that's completely screwed up and doesn't know it :tooth:

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