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Nebe 06-14-2016 09:49 AM

True! Very true!
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RickBomba 06-14-2016 09:55 AM

So, in the beginning, like we all said, there was a core group of contributors that were on the site. For whatever reason, I think we retained about 30% of the core users.

Now, if what people say about the decline from 2006-2014, that would mean that we probably didn't attract the "young people", like Paul said.

Maybe we put up a booth at the RISSA show this year. I bet we'd get some new users.

This means we now have to have a wicked packed TFCTFN to pay for a RISSA booth. I can run with this idea if you guys like it.

OK, gotta fly. The job hunt continues.
Rick

piemma 06-14-2016 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickBomba (Post 1102442)
So, in the beginning, like we all said, there was a core group of contributors that were on the site. For whatever reason, I think we retained about 30% of the core users.

Now, if what people say about the decline from 2006-2014, that would mean that we probably didn't attract the "young people", like Paul said.

Maybe we put up a booth at the RISSA show this year. I bet we'd get some new users.

This means we now have to have a wicked packed TFCTFN to pay for a RISSA booth. I can run with this idea if you guys like it.

OK, gotta fly. The job hunt continues.
Rick

I with you Rick and you know you can count on me to totally help.

Another Idea: Why not an SB.com Striper, Fluke and Bluefish Tournament all Catch and Release. I am in the Pabts Blue Ribbon Tourney and it's all C&R. Cash first prizes for each species and weekly results get posted on SB.com. I'm willing to bet we'd get a lot of new members.

piemma 06-14-2016 10:17 AM

I think a weekend Block Island Tourney in Early November would draw interest also. I know the fishing hasn't been the greatest on the Block in the Fall but I still do it all alone for 3 days as there is a mystique about the place in November.

Oh and NOTHING involving the Canal. Too many asshats as it's too easy to get to.

hardcore from shore 06-14-2016 10:19 AM

This is still my favorite site to read and learn and ask questions. Use msba facebook and falmouth fishermans facebook and stan gibbs facebook to keep finger on that pulse. Keep finger on family via regular facebook. I avoid posting anything political on any site, my personal rule as I am not changing anybody's mind.
I enjoy big fish's blog too. Lot's of options may keep pisting here down.
First love is still fishing. Was out from 11pm to 1 am today. Fish pre dawn and dawn almost daily. Being retired helps.. Seeing sunrise, seeing nature hearing birds is great. Last night skies cleared and stars came out and i was casting at the big dipper. Sweet. Fishing the best, catching fun but not necessary. But I do love to catch.
We all have lot's of options. I love having this one too. Keep up the good work John. Guys and gals keep posting. I know people bitch about spot burns on photos, but lets face it there are no unknown spots, but maybe unknown tides. Chill folks.
I am still catching bass on plugs my dad perfected with info from rhe plug forum and he passed 3 years ago.
Would still love to read threads about working favorite lures etc. Personally I am working on perfecting " the dying baitfish twitch".
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bassballer 06-14-2016 10:41 AM

I consider myself a younger member on this forum. Ive learned a ton from this site over the years. There is definitley a lack of younger guys on here. also it seems over the last ten years alot of the die hard surf guys smartened up and bought boats!!:laugha:

Going back about 8 years or so there was a ton of surf talk. Gear, tactics, reports ect. I only surf fish a couple times a year now, since buying a boat. theres a big presence of the boat crowd on facebook. Back when there was a large surf crowd there was a sense of community about fishing for 2 nights straight while sleeping in your car while the tide turned, cause you know other guys were doing the same thing. I used to spend a ton of time hanging out at the local tackle shop as well. I rarely do that anymore either.

RIROCKHOUND 06-14-2016 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bart (Post 1102431)
I think that's a valid point. You see a fraction of the people out there now compared to 10 years ago.

I think a lot congregate at the canal; there are certainly less guys fishing though. I was at my local lighthouse last week on a nice night at dusk and beyond. After the lone scupper left at dark I had the run of the point. In June. Not the first time that has happened this year. Go figure...

bart 06-14-2016 10:56 AM

I do it all still. Sleep in my car probably 3-4 nights a week. Only way I can afford to do this while not living by the water. I hang in a lot of the tackle shops, too. Neil at QL has become a good bud over the years. I don't even think I do it for the fish anymore. Just always loved the lifestyle. I will never abandon the old school mentality. Fish hard, live long
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Rockport24 06-14-2016 11:11 AM

the people on this site continue to be some of the most helpful and most skilled anglers anywhere. I think its true we all need to make more of an effort to post and maybe even have some get togethers. I know my time is very tight now that I have two kids, when I started here I was all fishing all the time, so things change in that way, but I'm still here!

RIROCKHOUND 06-14-2016 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by piemma (Post 1102448)
I think a weekend Block Island Tourney in Early November would draw interest also. I know the fishing hasn't been the greatest on the Block in the Fall but I still do it all alone for 3 days as there is a mystique about the place in November.

Oh and NOTHING involving the Canal. Too many asshats as it's too easy to get to.

I'd be in, at least for a night of that :spin:

BigFish 06-14-2016 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1102435)
and it seems that fishing has changed...instant gratification mob mentality...electronics...swarm...swarm...swarm... .no time for discussion of tackle and tactics gotta drive forever to get to the hottest bite and fish elbow to elbow or bow to stern crushing fish....go pro's and hero shots.....team fishing....to each his/her own....I'd rather fish alone for hours with no fish than suffer any amount of time elbow to elbow in a crowd catching big fish with all the antics...but again...it's all in what you want out of it....the problem with fishing discussions is you can only discuss how to load a redfin of fish a metal lip so many times...most has been done or discussed over and over...no one wants to post current stuff for fear that their sacred spot will be trampled....i love and find fascinating the plug building stuff but who has time for that anymore...there's plastic !...lot's of plastic...life has become plastic

I agree Scott....thats why I am enjoying the hell out of my kayak! Maybe go with a buddy or two.......fish fresh or salt no matter! We got fish......NO CELL PHONE CALLS......and its relaxing and peaceful! Very spiritually fulfilling!! I do GoPro pretty heavy and take photos but the video does not get used until the off season!

Guppy 06-14-2016 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RickBomba (Post 1102442)
So, in the beginning, like we all said, there was a core group of contributors that were on the site. For whatever reason, I think we retained about 30% of the core users.

Now, if what people say about the decline from 2006-2014, that would mean that we probably didn't attract the "young people", like Paul said.

Maybe we put up a booth at the RISSA show this year. I bet we'd get some new users.

This means we now have to have a wicked packed TFCTFN to pay for a RISSA booth. I can run with this idea if you guys like it.

OK, gotta fly. The job hunt continues.
Rick

Quote:

Originally Posted by piemma (Post 1102447)
I with you Rick and you know you can count on me to totally help.

Another Idea: Why not an SB.com Striper, Fluke and Bluefish Tournament all Catch and Release. I am in the Pabts Blue Ribbon Tourney and it's all C&R. Cash first prizes for each species and weekly results get posted on SB.com. I'm willing to bet we'd get a lot of new members.

This greenhorn is willing to help with that stuff iffin you want....

piemma 06-14-2016 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Guppy (Post 1102457)
This greenhorn is willing to help with that stuff iffin you want....

Thanks Gup. We will need all the help we can get.

paradoxjim 06-14-2016 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by piemma (Post 1102402)
. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I haven't seen 10 new names on SB.com in a year. It's all us old bastards.

I don't post often because I never get the time to wet a line anymore, but it's all of the old bastards that keeps this old bastard checking in every day! I don't have a FB account and have no desire.

putty 06-14-2016 02:26 PM

I lurk on here regularly while in the office (usually check in a couple times a day), and occasionally from home, but rarely post. Mostly because I have really only met a couple of you...guessing that I am probably on the younger end of the age bracket than most of you (39), but I could be wrong

This is a great change of pace from the other site- a much more intimate setting with guys who seem to actually know each other- a genuine sense of camaraderie exists here that doesn't over there. And yet I feel more inclined to get involved in discussions and post over there for some reason...

I was tempted to make the plunge and commit to the Cutty trip- I think myself and the 5 guys I was with last year were just getting on the boat as you guys were getting off (Rob G. made the trip with us last year)...was tough to commit to it this year as historically speaking the June new moon timeframe is typically when some real quality fish show up in and around my home waters (I had my best surf night this past Saturday locally for both numbers and size)...We had an awful weather pattern when we went last year in early June and the guys who want to head back out there all thought it would be advantageous to shoot for at least one commando style trip somewhere in the August/September timeframe- hoping for more comfortable and favorable conditions (last year we got off the ferry on Cutty and had constant drizzle to driving rain and a steady 20+ mph NE wind the whole time)...Rob was the high rod on our trip as well!

I do not do facebook outside of a couple of public pages to check out charter captains reports or tackle shop reports of another $h!tsh0w at the canal.

Hopefully the S-B website remains viable for years to come- I certainly appreciate all of the contributions of the various members. So many years of surf knowledge resides here and to be able to apply some of that knowledge to my home waters is invaluable.

Putty

HookLine&Sinker 06-14-2016 05:04 PM

Im 22yo, dont have a FB... S-b is my facebook
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stripermaineiac 06-14-2016 06:05 PM

This place has always been a great place to learn. What John an the others do is the best. to loose it would be sad an I hope it doesn't happen. Instant anything is bad too much bitchin n moanin is bad an too much critisism of other peoples fish makes it hard for others to post out of fear of the fish morality police. You can't tell about where you fish or what you use for fear of the spot burn police. Bein low tech keeps me from puttin up pics an most have my plugs in them so that stops me as I don't feel comfortable advertisin with pics. But we do need to maybe be a little less criticle so new faces aren't scared away. Many of us here don't do facebook. Plus like Ross an a few others were sayin this has just plain been a bitch of a year for all of us. More fun n get togethers will make a load of difference as long as it all isn't left to John an a couple others. That's part of what killed the Tri-State tournament.

chris L 06-14-2016 09:05 PM

this is my first time here . seems like a nice place maybe i will sit back , put up my feet order a joint ( new law working ) and sit back and watch the festivities .


FB is a joke . lots of internet hero's and braggarts . smart phones too have killed fishing . don't forget them ! even though a majority have them . I'm a network engineer for a major university ( that's what they tell us to say ) and i still have a flip phone . Best part of meetings is when I place my pad , pen and flip phone on the conference table . The looks are the funniest ever . I laugh at them . Everyone else has their laptop , tablet or 2 and smart phone .

Oh well I find it funny .
ok back to just sitting and watching and having a good smoke .

Oh yeah i came here to say something ........... Hello

fish raptor 06-15-2016 12:41 AM

I have FB but wouldn't think of using it for fishing. Summer time I get real busy with work (tree service) and it's generally a 6am to 9pm thing which doesn't leave much time to visit and post this SB site but I make several stops each week. It's nice to know it's there when you have a little free time or need some opinions/advice. I have already met some new friends because of this forum and hope to make many more. To say my recent trip to Cuttyhunk with the group was enjoyable would be the understatement of the year. It is going to be regular annual event for me for sure....good lord willing and the creek don't rise ! This inaugural Cutty trip was a HUGE learning curve for me, by next year I'll blend right in.

Thanks to all for helping me out and making that trip special...especially Ross.

Regarding the SBC site "I ain't going anywhere"
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RickBomba 06-15-2016 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris L (Post 1102485)
this is my first time here . seems like a nice place maybe i will sit back , put up my feet order a joint ( new law working ) and sit back and watch the festivities .


FB is a joke . lots of internet hero's and braggarts . smart phones too have killed fishing . don't forget them ! even though a majority have them . I'm a network engineer for a major university ( that's what they tell us to say ) and i still have a flip phone . Best part of meetings is when I place my pad , pen and flip phone on the conference table . The looks are the funniest ever . I laugh at them . Everyone else has their laptop , tablet or 2 and smart phone .

Oh well I find it funny .
ok back to just sitting and watching and having a good smoke .

Oh yeah i came here to say something ........... Hello

See, our conversation brought one of the true originals out of the woodwork. When I first started here, I used to find my landlord (of my restaurant) on my recent calls . I thought I was calling him in my sleep. I really did not like him. I pretty much like everybody, so that's a strong sentiment from me. I was about to confront him for messing with my phone and then realized that he and Chris share the same name. Yup, it was me calling chrisL. The restaurant turned me into a real vindictive bastard. Chris has always done his best to help minimize my vindictiveness. I'm still a bastard.
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piemma 06-15-2016 01:29 AM

I agree. Names I've never seen or maybe seen once have posted here. SO.....
You "lurkers" need to be more vocal so we know you are out there.

Think about this:

The more traffic John came verify, the more advertisers he can get to buy space on the site and thus, the better chance of the site surviving. The guy doesn't make any money here as it is.

OK, later, I'm goin' fishing. I'll see Clammer someplace.

Clammer 06-15-2016 03:14 AM

ride long & far & you will the fish you seek :huh:

thefishingfreak 06-15-2016 07:15 AM

There must be a dozen of these exact threads "what has happened to S-B" "Where's everyone gone"
The downfall of this once primarily (and for the most part) surf-casting website is the general attitude of the regular posters. It's marshal law/majority rules, plus the constant barrage of people bitching about any pic of a dead bass. Even when someone posts that they had a great time catching and releasing schoolies, the very next post is about how they should be "taking it easy on the little guys"...
The only ones left are the old guys who come here every day, the people who come here to argue in the political forum and the dooms day moratorium preppers ready to pounce on any wrongdoing/ spotburning/ photoshopping/ etc..



People who don't like Facebook either don't understand it, think big brother is out to get them or have simply allowed too many arseholes in their friends list.
Facebook is how you make it, That's the allure. Hell even some guys I'm friends with in real life I have to un-follow because of their constant political/gun-rights/anti-Obama/anti-government BS.

buckman 06-15-2016 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak (Post 1102498)
There must be a dozen of these exact threads "what has happened to S-B" "Where's everyone gone"
The downfall of this once primarily (and for the most part) surf-casting website is the general attitude of the regular posters. It's marshal law/majority rules, plus the constant barrage of people bitching about any pic of a dead bass. Even when someone posts that they had a great time catching and releasing schoolies, the very next post is about how they should be "taking it easy on the little guys"...
The only ones left are the old guys who come here every day, the people who come here to argue in the political forum and the dooms day moratorium preppers ready to pounce on any wrongdoing/ spotburning/ photoshopping/ etc..



People who don't like Facebook either don't understand it, think big brother is out to get them or have simply allowed too many arseholes in their friends list.
Facebook is how you make it, That's the allure. Hell even some guys I'm friends with in real life I have to un-follow because of their constant political/gun-rights/anti-Obama/anti-government BS.

Now I have to check to see if you defriended me .
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RickBomba 06-15-2016 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piemma (Post 1102459)
Thanks Gup. We will need all the help we can get.

Yup, the more the merrier. We can't forget Vic in the picture. My back is actually better than it's been in three years. By the time we have the TFCTFN, I should be back to being a gym rat again. I would enjoy the company in the kitchen, though.

piemma 06-15-2016 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RickBomba (Post 1102520)
Yup, the more the merrier. We can't forget Vic in the picture. My back is actually better than it's been in three years. By the time we have the TFCTFN, I should be back to being a gym rat again. I would enjoy the company in the kitchen, though.

Oh, I didn't Rick. Vic is our main "coordinator".:walk:

bassballer 06-15-2016 11:51 AM

im in for a tourney. Let me know when and where.

JLH 06-15-2016 12:52 PM

This has always been my favorite fishing related site. There are a lot of knowledgeable guys here that I have learned a lot from over the years and continue to learn from.

The majority of the content on Facebook is a joke and it usually only takes a few minutes for what might be an interesting discussion to turn into some kind of drama.

I don't post much here or on Facebook. I'm more the kind of person to sit back and listen/read than to jump into a discussion. I do also think there is some truth to what others have said about people being fearful of posting pics or reports for fear of criticism about spot burning, why a fish wasn't released, or the alleged weight, or why it was out on a boga etc... I think that's a way bigger issue on FaceBook with all of the "experts" on there but it certainly has happened here at times.

I like idea of a tournament. They always seem to draw a lot of interest.
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DRUMCORPFAN 06-15-2016 02:09 PM

The fishing legs were a big part of my interest in S.B, Lots of fishing related conversations going on.
Everyone would bring something to eat, Wait for Dusk then go fishing. That's what made the difference, Meeting you guys.............
Instead of just posting On-Line......

Leo

PaulS 06-15-2016 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak (Post 1102498)
There must be a dozen of these exact threads "what has happened to S-B" "Where's everyone gone"
The downfall of this once primarily (and for the most part) surf-casting website is the general attitude of the regular posters. It's marshal law/majority rules, plus the constant barrage of people bitching about any pic of a dead bass. Even when someone posts that they had a great time catching and releasing schoolies, the very next post is about how they should be "taking it easy on the little guys"...
The only ones left are the old guys who come here every day, the people who come here to argue in the political forum and the dooms day moratorium preppers ready to pounce on any wrongdoing/ spotburning/ photoshopping/ etc..



People who don't like Facebook either don't understand it, think big brother is out to get them or have simply allowed too many arseholes in their friends list.
Facebook is how you make it, That's the allure. Hell even some guys I'm friends with in real life I have to un-follow because of their constant political/gun-rights/anti-Obama/anti-government BS.

That is pretty much my feelings also. The only other thing I would add is that it seems like if you don't personally know people here, you're not going to get welcomed in. I've been lucky that I know some of the folks here as I met them fishing or at events over the years.

Clammer 06-15-2016 02:47 PM

wow DCF out of the woodwork & back from M/V ><>< I posted legs & #^&#^&#^&#^&in slip took them down .......that M.F er is one big ,big prude ><><>:patshelmet:

In The Surf 06-15-2016 03:15 PM

I'm here, really haven't been posting much but still here and still my favorite site.
Maybe a RI/MA get together or separate legs. .
Met many good guys through this site, the get togethers and at the water fishing.
Need a new S-B sicker, peeled off what was left of the other one a few days ago.

Clammer 06-15-2016 05:17 PM

ITS PM me your name.address

BEETLE 06-15-2016 08:06 PM

I'm one of the old guys that comes here every day. Take your online Peyton Place, instant gratifying, social drama sites and stick em.:bs:

Slipknot 06-16-2016 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Clammer (Post 1102547)
wow DCF out of the woodwork & back from M/V ><>< I posted legs & #^&#^&#^&#^&in slip took them down .......that M.F er is one big ,big prude ><><>:patshelmet:

that's me. big prude, no fun, watching JohnR's back

Steve K 06-16-2016 07:28 AM

I didn't think that anybody used FB anymore. Certainly if you are under 30 FB is not the place to be. Instagram and SnapChat are where it is at.

As far as this site goes, people share very little about how their fishing has been. I understand why and I don't post much until the end of the season to limit activity where I fish. I don't know what the solution is but this site is one of the few where there is little BS and people are more than willing to help you if you ask, but you have to ask. Bringing back the legs is a good idea.

bassballer 06-16-2016 08:50 AM

Im an instagram guy

Rob Rockcrawler 06-16-2016 09:12 AM

I'm here every day. I don't post a whole lot but check the site first when i wake up, its been a tradition for about 10 years now. This site helped my learning curve a lot when i first got started. Tons of info especially on equipment and tactics.

Clogston29 06-16-2016 09:17 AM

I still check in almost every day but don't post a ton. This site was invaluable to me years ago when I was starting out. Leaned a ton and met some great people. There used to be a lot more discussion of fishing techniques, equipment, theory, etc. That seems to have dropped off a lot. I don't really think its a facebook thing, just that that stuff can only be discussed so much. And the whole spot burn thing. When the site was relatively new, there was more to discuss that hadn't already been beaten to death. Also, I think the fishing was generally better than and more people were fishing, especially in the surf, and not just the canal.

fishbones 06-16-2016 09:29 AM

I check in almost every day, but don't post much. Life has just gotten too busy the last few years. I go on FB but not for fishing stuff, other than a couple private groups I'm in. When I first joined this site, I was strictly a boat guy and learned a ton about surfcasting here. I still suck at fishing, but at least I don't look as foolish as I used to. I met a bunch of great guys here that I'm happy to call my friends, and still try to get out and fish with as many people from here that I can. I like the idea of a site tourney or bringing back the legs, but it might be tough for me to make it. Most of my weekends are booked solid with family stuff or kids sports.
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