It took a Democrat being dragged into the sex scandal for Jim to decide to talk about it. #sad
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it's amazing how often Gloria Allred pops up with a client on the eve of an election :hihi:

Huh, he did seem to evenly apply to both

Obama only president since 1980 not accused.

Where his partners willing particpants? Can't recall them saying they weren't.

I’m certain that if al Frankenstein was not dragged into the #meetoo witch hunt, this thread never would have been made.
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NP. I just thought your response was nonsensical.

What stories do you think the Russians are cooking up watching this all unfold, cyber warfare is going to be a real challenge moving forward. They will see this outrage and use it to post smear fake news if they can get by (hopefully) a more diligent online community about who to sell ads to.

As I, yours.

Yet. Or he lived in fear of the wrath of Moochelle on a daily basis. Lol

If you bothered to read the title of the thread, you'd see I am attacking a republican and a democrat. What is it about liberalism, exactly, that so often requires its adherents, to abandon intellectual honesty?

I've also made no secret how I feel about Trump. Scumbag.

Both politicians are accused of forcing themselves upon women, without consent. True or false?

"The other terrible issue, as mentioned by Jim, is we have to be watchful for people using the smear for political gain and creating false and misleading accusations to flip politically. "

Correct. How do you defend yourself, against accusations made decades earlier?

Also, the Duke lacrosse case is a reminder of why we are all innocent until proven guilty. This is a tough issue.

I have a lot of issues with Obama and we are paying for his leadership today. I do not have a problem with him as an adult or father and husband to his family.


I thought Wayne would have stated it until I saw his repeated defenses of Franken

(I jest, I jest)

^^^ See two up ; )

"Woman seem to think so w/all the cuts to contraceptives, etc"

Liberal women think so. Not all women.

Contraceptives are always available when there is a true health need (my wife had a need to be on the pill, which had nothing whatsoever to do with contraception. What conservatives/Christians often oppose, is forcing employers to provide free contraception, when it's to be used for recreational sex. When there is an underlying health issue, the contraception is provided. Your side usually leaves out that part.

"claimIt seems like the Rep. have no problem ELECTING actors - Trump, Reagan, AAArnold, Bono, Eastwood"

So you are denying that Hollywood leans left. Sounds rational to me.

"No, it is called ASSUALT "

He's accused of assault. He is proven guilty of objectifying.

"Yet somehow he was the Rep. nominee and got elected Pres "

Yes. But unlike the perverts on your side, Trump was widely criticized for being a jerk. Lots of influential republicans denounced him and announced that they didn't vote for him. Please tell me what influential liberals denounced Hilary because she lied to enable Bill and attacked his victims? Because I can give you a long list of conservatives who denounced Trump (Condaleeza Rice, Bush 43, George Will...)there was w hole "never Trump movement within the GOP. Was there similar resistance to Bill, Hilary, or Ted Kennedy?

You talking about Bill? Are you serious? Juanita Broderick has long claimed he raped her. And he paid off Paula Jones with a fat settlement. But let's ignore that.

Classy.

And the most recent allegation against H.W was about incident in 1992.

John, my post about Barry was in jest.
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My we sure are sensitive in here. Lighten up.
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NM

Don't try to wash yourself of it by making it a problem of mine. Thanks :kewl:

I almost was going to post something along the same lines.

I'm talking about the person you mentioned directly above in the post - Kennedy.

"You mentioned 2 Dem. presidents in your 1st post"

Ted Kennedy killed somebody and used his money to avoid responsibility, and grew in popularity among the left.

Bill Clinton had an affair in the Oval Office, looked the public in the eye, and lied about it. His wife went on national TV and slut-shamed his victims. The 2 of them, as of last week, were enormously popular with liberals.

Trump is despised by many, many influential republicans. That's the difference between my side and your side. It is a glaring difference. I am proud of that difference.

Ok, let's talk about Kennedy (Ted). Mary Joe agreed to let him drive off a bridge, leave her, go back to a party, and lawyer up?

Talking about Ted Kennedy, not JFK.

Paul, there are perverts on both sides. I'm not saying all Republicans are faithful to their wives. What I'm saying, is that your side is far more tolerant, far more willing to look the other way, when high-profile politicians/entertainers act this way. Yet you claim that my side is waging war on women. It's absolute nonsense.

BIDEN-FRANKENSTEIN 2020

HEY JOE...THAT'S NOT YOUR WIFE....

:rotf3::rotf3::rotf3::bs:

I mentioned Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton, because they are two politicians who (1) committed disgusting acts against women, and (2) paid absolutely zero political price within their own party.

You can put Trump in that category, and that would have some validity to it. But the difference is, Trump isn't regarded as a hero by many Republicans. He's a scumbag who was lucky enough to run against somebody as horrible as he is. The Kennedys and the Clintons are worshipped by most of the left. Megyn Kelly was huge on Foxnews, and she was merciless to Trump. Who on the left, who is that popular, was as tough to Ted Kennedy, or Bill Clinton, or Hilary Clinton?

Of course it’s political, why else would Trump blast Franken and say nothing about Moore. From what I’ve read Franken just stepped a bit over the line, while Moore seems to be almost a border line sex offender; but he is from the south where maybe he feels if my pappy could why not me.
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You're sick and making the problem worse.
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if that was a guy Biden probably wouldn't be making love to his hair

No not at all. But that's nothat happen they are not the same thing

14 years old 8 women same story can you say child molester

And neither one of them has been convicted of anything. I’m not sure we should take action against either one. Remember the duke lacrosse case? I do.
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I know ; ) - Some don't do it in jest - I don't like some of the things she has said in the past

OOPS!

POLITICS 11/17/2017

Women On Clinton And Sanders Campaigns Allege Sexual Harassment

Lilian Adams and Zoey Jordan Salsbury worked on opposite sides of the Democratic presidential primary. But they had similar problems.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b045cf43705417

geez.....you'd think based on the narrative, the Trump campaign would be riddled with sexual harassment charges...but it's the highly evolved dems????...seems like it's practically part of the culture on the left...so much so that they are happy to be photographed :hihi:


HEY JOE...THAT'S NOT YOUR WIFE EITHER.....gitchy...gitchty...gooo

convicted of anything.......

thats not your standard when it was Obama or Hilliary.. weinstein or spacey

but now with Moore a likely pedophile with 8 accusers you use the hasn't been convicted of anything argument .. curious

To learn that 15 million of our taxpayer dollars went to pay off sexual harassment claims is so wrong, this aholes should be paying off those claims with their own money.

it's not an argument...it's actually a "fact"...you like those

Moore should go to jail...hopefully he will be convicted...in the case of Franken...the old adage applies..."a picture is worth a thousand words"

In a way you are right. Picture shows bad taste, but he isn't touching her. Also provides a witness (photographer). It would exonerate him in that particular instance.
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he's violating her personal space