So true.
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What I find confusing ...
It is said the John jr. willingness to take a meeting with the Russian Lawyer to get dirt on Hillary is characterized as collusion.
But the hiring of GPS and Steele to get dirt on Trump from the Russians is not.
Is it not the same? Does twice removed change it.....
Isn’t Steele a foreign national.....
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Nobody coordinated with Steele, he was just a consultant and had no idea who was sourcing the information. Quite different from Don Jr who appears to have known exactly what he was doing.

Steele would not be shaking trees in Russia without knowing who was paying the expense check.

The proper rebuttal would have been there is little similarity between campaign people making and acting on arrangements in a quid pro quo with a foreign power (which is what still needs to be proven) to actively influence an election versus opposition research.

There is plenty of smoke around Clinton (and CGI) to be concerned of payments for policy. Clinton hands are rarely ever clean.

Steele was a hired consultant by Fusion GPS to do research. It's supposed to be a very credible firm, I'd think they have strict policies in place to specifically prevent him from knowing.

As for Clinton and payments for policy. I haven't seen anything other than crack conspiracy theories.

I'd like to see the Fusion GPS folks testify publicly for the Senate committee.

Well, they did in private and have asked for the full transcripts to be released.

just more of the same... Republicans demanding proof and evidence
against Trump ...

however Republicans do not demanding proof or evidence against a democrat or any investigation or hearing they lead ... the love painting an Impressionism portrait 1st.. then try to get the pieces to fit

why is that ?



why are they trying to discredit Muller at every turn? if they support MAGA

isn't that what Donald Jr was trying to do.. but via the Russians

and you support the release of stolen information because you like the content ?

Talk about wanting it both ways

I am aware. I don’t know if Grassley will release them however
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good question from Andy McCarthy

"If Simpson and Fritsch have evidence of criminal or otherwise corrupt Trump-Russia contacts, why don’t they just tell us what it is. Why do they write a lengthy NY Times column caterwauling about how the Republican-controlled committees are supposedly withholding the information they’ve provided? We are not talking about classified information here; we are talking about Fusion’s own investigation. They say the Republicans refuse to release their testimony. Why wait for the Republicans? There’s nothing stopping Simpson and Fritsch from fully disclosing what their testimony was. Why don’t they tell the story instead of complaining about its not being told? Could it be that the story is not what they purport it to be?"

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...ve-falls-apart

Sure, if you are doing research on Denmark or Uruguay. Someone that is smart and greatly experienced former member of a FiveEyes country (and wants to live a long life) does not conduct research on Ruissia without knowing who is paying.

Sounds like you're solidifying the credibility of his research.

Republicans urge investigation into Trump dossier author
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42586855


The Steele dossier - which became public in January 2017 - was drawn together after an investigation funded by Republicans trying to block Mr Trump from becoming the party's presidential candidate.

funny how this has been left out here ?

but the part below hasn't

Democrats then took over funding the investigation after he was nominated.

Clinton Foundation investigated by Justice Departmenthttp://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42579732

The Attorney General and FBI will reportedly investigate claims Hillary Clinton engaged in so-called "pay-to-play" politics for donations.

Mrs Clinton's spokesman on Friday labelled the inquiry a "sham".

He said Attorney General Jeff Sessions was doing President Trump's bidding to distract from the Russia probe.


^^^^^painting an Impressionism portrait 1st.. then try to get the pieces to fit .... as if i had a Crystal ball :rotflmao:

I am reasonably confident some is legit, other parts sensationalized, wrapped in parts that are pure disinformation.

Some people say the guy is good, some folks say he is a sky is falling.

Steele says it's 70-90% accurate. Hell, even at 30% it's pretty damning.

The Fusion GPS leadership spent 21 hours before congress and claim they ripped the conspiracy theories to shreds. They are demanding congress release the full transcripts.

This obstruction of justice case seems to have engulfed most of the GOP.

It's my understanding that parts of it have been confirmed and that nothing has been disapproved.
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And on a related note I learned today that President Trump is a "stable genius".
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Perhaps that's why he seems to have so much disdain for the rule of law? He's too smart and stable for it.

I'm going to give him props for keeping me safe when I'm flying.
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The stable genius
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F GPS Testimony - redacted

https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/pub...t-redacted.pdf

Have not read yet

his dog and pony show yesterday was genius....

:hihi:

"When you look at it hard, two conclusions are impossible to escape: First, at the height of the 2016 campaign, Obama intelligence officials anxiously adopted Christopher Steele’s allegations of traitorous conduct by then-candidate Donald Trump rather than first subject his “dossier” to rigorous investigation — even though Steele himself admits that his “raw,” “unverified” reports might not be true. Second, at the same time the FBI was receiving Steele’s reports — which were based on multiple-hearsay from anonymous Russian sources, and paid for by the Clinton campaign — Obama intelligence officials were briefing congressional leaders about them, thereby ensuring that they’d be publicized just six weeks before Election Day."

....you know...it's a shame clinton and obama & co went to such lengths and still lost....:doh:....

The Steele dossier - which became public in January 2017 - was drawn together after an investigation funded by Republicans trying to block Mr Trump from becoming the party's presidential candidate. then once he was nominated the republicans walked away and the dem's step in Facts all the facts :huh:

The Republicans who wanted to block Trump from becoming the Party's candidate are just as capable of dirty tricks as the Democrats are. They and the Democrats were both anti-Trump. Once he won the nomination, the dirty trick Republicans had to step aside and let the dirty trick Democrats take over.

Ooooo the “dirty trick Democrats” you might as well say “crooked hillary” or “crazy Bernie”
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if it's a fact...which republicans?

Washington Free Beacon

October 27, 2017 7:02 pm

Since its launch in February of 2012, the Washington Free Beacon has retained third party firms to conduct research on many individuals and institutions of interest to us and our readers. In that capacity, during the 2016 election cycle we retained Fusion GPS to provide research on multiple candidates in the Republican presidential primary, just as we retained other firms to assist in our research into Hillary Clinton. All of the work that Fusion GPS provided to the Free Beacon was based on public sources, and none of the work product that the Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier. The Free Beacon had no knowledge of or connection to the Steele dossier, did not pay for the dossier, and never had contact with, knowledge of, or provided payment for any work performed by Christopher Steele. Nor did we have any knowledge of the relationship between Fusion GPS and the Democratic National Committee, Perkins Coie, and the Clinton campaign.

Representatives of the Free Beacon approached the House Intelligence Committee today and offered to answer what questions we can in their ongoing probe of Fusion GPS and the Steele dossier. But to be clear: We stand by our reporting, and we do not apologize for our methods. We consider it our duty to report verifiable information, not falsehoods or slander, and we believe that commitment has been well demonstrated by the quality of the journalism that we produce. The First Amendment guarantees our right to engage in news-gathering as we see fit, and we intend to continue doing just that as we have since the day we launched this project.

Matthew Continetti
Editor in Chief

Michael Goldfarb
Chairman



got any other "republicans"?

ask them
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42586855


or ask Trump he claimed he knew who the republican was


this is what an authoritarian leader looks like

http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-...-us-libel-laws

He made the comments on the day that his personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, filed a defamation lawsuit against Fusion GPS and Buzzfeed in relation to a disputed dossier on alleged ties between Russia and the Trump campaign.

Don't need any other Rebulicans. They hired Fusion GPS and stopped the funding before the Steele doc. bc Trump was going to win the Rep. nomination. Then the Dems. paid for the continued research which included the Steele doc.

Who paid for it is irrelevant. What was in it is the important thing and whether it can be proven. Trump is not going to be found guilty of anything based on a doc.

Sounds like a typical politician calling for a study or an investigation.

this is amusing isn't it?

the "republicans" = Washington Free Beacon

and

"Facts all the facts" = "ask them"

good grief....

It is a conservative website hired by Rubio. Do you think they don't vote Repub?

a. how would you know how "they" vote? how does BBC vote?

b. I guess by that standard we can consider the mainstream media "democrat"?

Trump has really sent you guys over the deep end:spin:

I think the only people who have gone off the deep end are trying to make a case that bc GPS was paid for by the Dems, the doc. isn't credible.

I don't think anyone said it's not credible "because the dems paid for it"...it's credibility has come under question for other reasons mentioned below...the fact that the dems paid for it and worked in conjunction with the highly politicized obama justice department and FBI to undermine the American election process is what is truly troubling...

if you replace "republicans" with "democrats"...you guys would be screaming FASCISM!!!

again, since you guys can't seem to process ...

"Obama intelligence officials anxiously adopted Christopher Steele’s allegations of traitorous conduct by then-candidate Donald Trump rather than first subject his “dossier” to rigorous investigation — even though Steele himself admits that his “raw,” “unverified” reports might not be true. Second, at the same time the FBI was receiving Steele’s reports — which were based on multiple-hearsay from anonymous Russian sources, and paid for by the Clinton campaign — Obama intelligence officials were briefing congressional leaders about them, thereby ensuring that they’d be publicized just six weeks before Election Day."

"none of the work product that the Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier. The Free Beacon had no knowledge of or connection to the Steele dossier, did not pay for the dossier, and never had contact with, knowledge of, or provided payment for any work performed by Christopher Steele."

are there no conservative democrats left?