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Jim in CT 12-24-2018 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1158134)
I suggest there are more US born Americans who fit your immigrant profile then them immigrants ... who you think dont pay taxes

you have this habit, of responding to something that no one ever said.
you do this very, very regularly.

i never, ever said illegals are the only ones on welfare in these numbers. but can we afford to open up our border and allow
millions more to just stroll in, without vetting them? are there limits to how many poor and unskilled people we can support?

you deny that many of them don’t pay taxes? lots of them don’t work for cash under the table?
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detbuch 12-27-2018 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1157995)
Yes indeed it’s called America, where EVERY single one of us is descended from illegal immigration and look what our ancestors did to the true original citizens of this continent. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

If you are referring to the original colonial settlers, they did not land here illegally. There were no immigration laws on this continent at the time. Just as there were no such laws when the pre-colonial natives settled here before the English colonists. There were no national borders. There was no "nation" with legalized property rights and legal borders on the land where the colonists settled.

What is now North America was still a land mass that was being settled in various parts by groups and individuals who came and went, who were successful for a period of time, and who failed as well. There were tribal wars and consolidations. Large areas were still not inhabited. There was no overall legal structure that we would recognize as a country with a claim to legal, contractual, or political ownership of all the land.

The meme that the colonists were illegal immigrants is useful to promote the Progressive globalist notion that national borders, nationalism in general, are regressive remnants of the nation states that have led to wars, economic conflicts, and all manner of personal and group oppression.

The ideal political structure of current Progressive ideology would be the elimination of nation states replaced by some form of global governance. The United Nations, the precursor governing body, is busy trying to establish model bureaucracies such as international courts, climate governing organization, evolving immigration laws that progressively eliminate the obstacles to free roaming migration, and all forms of wealth and technology transfers to connect the planet's population into one egalitarian network.

For those who prefer the globalist political structure, the meme that we are all "illegal" immigrants won't go away because it is useful for shaming us into the understanding that everyone is actually legal. That we are all equal citizens of the world.

basswipe 12-29-2018 08:17 AM

Gotta love the "what if" threads.

What if an asteroid didn't hit the Earth 65 million years ago would super intelligent dinosaurs be ruling the Earth?Who cares,that's not the reality of the situation.

This is by far one of the dumbest threads I've ever encountered on this site.What if we had GoFundMe in 1940.Really?

Some folks need to deal with reality and stop wondering what if.....


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