I know I wouldn't let my grandfather wander around in his pajamas bothering people with his drum....

Pathetic and deplorable.
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:laugha:

he called the kids beasts, and the black maniacs their
prey. he literally could
not have been more wrong. either it was a colossal honest mistake, or he was lying. i don’t know which it is, but there isn’t a third option.

why any native American would feel compelled to serve in the military after what we did to them, is literally beyond me. so he is (or was) generous, brave, and patriotic. but for him to claim that the kids were the aggressors, is crazy. bonkers.

and when the media ran with the story that the kids blocked his path, when he was the one who got right in their faces, is horrible.

it did look like some of the
kids were mocking him with their dancing, who the hell knows what they were thinking after getting screamed at for an hour
by the black maniacs, and then having this weirdo get 3 inches from the face of a classmate. i saw that as an attempt to provoke, i don’t know how it can be taken any other way, not when you combine it with his statements that the kids were the aggressors and that he was intervening with that in mind. and there’s no sane way for anyone to have thought that the kids were to blame, not at that point. the kids were standing there getting screamed at. they did nothing to the black hate group, the video
makes that crystal clear.
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Comical timeline of the latest media BS
Outrage online as a group of white kids in MAGA hats accost a native american protester, just shameful
Hold on! A new two hour video has emerged showing the kids are wholesome, were yelled at by black Israelites and did not-I repeat did not do a racism
That's weird because they did mock the guy
He came at them with a drum
Also there were Crazy Blacks
Phew! There was an initial rush to judgement there, but I think we got it white just in time.

Pete F, the Sandmann kid, the one at the center of all this, was accused of blocking the Native American's path. In fact, we was standing there doing nothing, when the weirdo got in his face. The kid showed amazing confidence and poise, standing there with a smile on his face. He did nothing. And he's getting death threats.

You're parsing the events, cutting and pasting into a sequence that fits your narrative. I have little doubt that some of the teenagers were mocking the Native American - but that was AFTE having the black Israelites screaming at them for an hour, and after having the native American get in their classmate's face.

The kid who stood there smiling, and then had a weirdo get in his face, is receiving death threats. He's a junior in high school. And you have nothing to say about that. Zip.

You're crazy.

Seems Twitter and CNN believe it was "Fake News"

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/21/tech/...ens/index.html

My take is I don’t give a f*ck, it’s noise distracting from the real issue, that the government and it’s workers are being held hostage over a campaign promise. I see disrespectful behavior every summer, as I live on the only street allowing public parking for white horse beach in Plymouth, which for decades has been the party beach for the surrounding towns. Want to take a guess what color most of my trouble comes from, whether it’s yelling, swearing in front of the neighborhood kids, throwing their empty beer cans and trash in our yards or peeing in plain sight? Yeah you guessed it white young adults with no respect. One black familiy we have actually given permission to park in our driveway after having a pleasant respectful conversation when they asked where they could legally park and the same is true for another family we think might be Hispanic or Brazilian. I’d say 99% of all the trouble is with young white males.
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you don’t give a f*ck that the media threw high school students under the bus this way? what if that was your son? can you imagine what that family is going through? he got death threats, because the media cares more about slamming Trump supporters, then they care about getting the facts.

at the same time, it’s time to end the shutdown. pelosi isnt going to budge, so there’s no point to it. open the government, let trump declare his emergency, order the wall, and head to court to fight it out.
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This couldn't be because Plymouth and surrounding towns are predominantly White, It's gotta be because White people are the problem.

Plymouth - The racial makeup of the town was 93.8% White, 2.0% Black or African American (congratulations, you are the most diverse town)

Kingston - The racial makeup of the town was 97.3% white, 0.1% Black or African American

Carver - The racial makeup of the town was 95.78% White, 1.22% African American

Sandwich - The racial makeup of the town was 97.75% White, 0.38% African American

Did you bother to read your own link?
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Yeah, I did

"A spokesperson for Twitter told CNN Business, "Deliberate attempts to manipulate the public conversation on Twitter by using misleading account information is a violation of the Twitter Rules."

or you could just go with the title

"This MAGA loser gleefully bothering a Native American protester at the Indigenous Peoples March" I'm pretty sure that it has been determined that the old guy approached them and started bothering them.

They didn’t suspend the account for fake news, it was because the owner was misrepresenting who they were.
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Do you live on the street, no you don’t and I can tell you for a fact, those numbers aren’t what I see for people of color. In fact there aren’t many public beaches where these minority’s are coming from, I think the black family is from Brockton and the other from Taunton, but feel free to quote stats that mean nothing. So should six flags or the local water parks be exactly a match for the town make up, what a stupid argument that one is.
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Nope, you're right, it's because white people s*ck. MSNBC said so.

This has been shown beyond any and all doubt. The old guy stated (and that was good enough for the media!) that the kids were harassing the black Israelite group, which is about as accurate as saying that the jews in the Warsaw ghetto were harassing the Nazi SS troops.

And today, Kentucky police told the kids' catholic school not top open for security reasons. ll that liberal tolerance on display.

We have nuts on the right. They mostly operate on the fringe, they aren't mainstream.

A banner weekend for liberalism. The entire left bought into the discredited Buzzfeed report. Then the liberals had a women's anti-Jew march. Then the entire left (TV pundits, journalists, celebrities)
mercilessly attacked children for wearing MAGA hats and because they stood there and took a verbal assault from black hate group. That was their crime.

Yes sir, a banner weekend for liberals.

These morons learned NOTHING from the Duke lacrosse case, and they have the nerve to be offended when Trump calls them out for being politically motivated liars.

You two are talking out your arses, without one bit of local knowledge of my situation, just so typical. My experiences for over a decade PROVE that I’ve had dozens of run ins with drunken white males and surprisingly the same number with white girls friends gone wild, but NOT one bad experience with people of color. Did I get that from MSNBC no, did I read it on CNN no, it’s my life experience over a decade of interaction with hundreds every weekend of a diverse sampling of primarily young adults.
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No, you are talking out of your arse. Your personal observations don't say ANYTHING about teenagers in KY. If you saw whites behaving badly, boo rah for you. That doesn't mean these kids in KY did anything wrong.

"but NOT one bad experience with people of color."

Again, good for you. Does that mean the blacks harassing children on the video, are not responsible for their actions?

GS, I went to Chicago last month for work. I didn't get shot, I didn't see anyone else get shot., and I didn't shoot anyone. Using your logic, does that mean Chicago doesn't have a problem with gun violence? That people who say it does, are wrong? See how stupid that sounds?

Said the TDVS sufferer
What I posted was:
Comical timeline of the latest media BS

This - without the hats this is not even a story.

Did I say it relates to those teens, please quote me where I said that, please don't put words in my mouth. Just relating a story, that from my experiences locally, people of color seem to display respect, while the white youth seem to be anything but respectful. Gee wiz I got off the rambling every moving target these threads always seem to have, sorry boss I'll stay on point next time.

you are probably correct.

i’d like to know what the native american was drinking, when he concluded that the kids were harassing the black hate group.
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You made the claim that white people are the problem, I'm just showing you that the reason for that is probably that a vast majority of people from your town and surrounding towns are white, so your chances that the A-holes you'll have to deal with will be white is greatly increased.

But I'm glad you met a couple of Black families that go there, that totally blows a hole in my theory that out of the 100,000 white folks surrounding the beach, that your chances of a few of them being A-holes, is just a stupid argument :rolleyes:

so what was the point? i haven’t heard anyone say that whites are always innocent, and blacks are always guilty. but in this case, we have videotape which shows that’s the case. i don’t get why there’s debate here. we know what happened. just because some don’t happen to like themoutcome, means we have to cloud the facts?
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Glad to hear you got that white, it's certainly not cloudy in your mind.

I can find almost any interpretation someone would like of what happened there and each claims to be true, pick your flavor, I see you chose vanilla, I'll go for Neapolitan.

Just in case that's too deep for you, Neapolitan is vanilla, chocolate and strawberry, since as usual there some truth to all sides in a story.

See there you go spouting an argument based on a local dynamic you just don't understand, probably only 20% of those on this public beach on the weekend are even Plymouth residents or adjoining communities. Kind of like Trump spouting theories about illegal aliens and the percentages of criminals included in the mix or drugs coming over the southern border, the shear ignorance of the local dynamics means you really can't make certain arguments, at least not to those people who do have the facts.

How about you actually put up some facts, you say probably 20% are residents. Probably is not a fact. Did you poll every person that uses the beach every weekend? Do you personally know all 100,000 people from Plymouth and the surrounding communities? Do you have a single piece of tangible evidence that dis-proves what I'm saying and validates what you're saying?

At least I posted some actual facts on the demographics, to back up what I'm saying.

Keep spouting off about race, be part of the problem instead of the solution. You are no better that the POTUS.

People wear hats with logos for a reason .. they weren’t worn for fashion or keeping the sun of your head or having a bad hair day ..

Those hats have meaning not all bad but not all good

But leave it Jim to say it’s just a hat
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if it’s not clear to you what happened, that necessarily means that outcome is more important to you, than facts. you are willing to ignore what actually happened, to get the result you want ( smear the conservatives). even if we are talking about kids.

have fun with that condition, jesus.

the black maniacs were disgusting. the kids did nothing to them, their crime, as the video makes obvious, was being white and wearing maga hats.

the native american ( by virtue of claiming the kids were the aggressors) is either an idiot or a liar, i have no way of
knowing. but it’s one of those binary choices, there isn’t a third choice.

the kid at the center of this, who stood motionless while a weirdo chanted three inches from his face, was accused of blocking the path of the native american. we know that’s not what happened. he was standing there, the native american camemup to him. and got right in his face.

and this kid who did absolutely nothing wrong, is painted all over the world as a racist bully, has received death threats, and his school is closed because it’s not safe.

because of liberal
tolerance.

ironic that it happened on MLK weekend, when we celebrate a man who asked us to ignore skin color. is that what liberals are doing today? or do they see EVERYTHING through the prism of race?

have fun responding to that.
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Actually yes we did, Peg was commissioned by the town and spent two weekends with a clicker counting and polling, so there goes that retort. The town used that data to throw out the idea of building rest rooms on the beach, based on numbers and local. They threw up some portable potties instead, but we have a pretty good idea of the usage, she's been here 35 years and I'm in it for over ten, but I suspect that because you can go on a website and get the % of white in the surrounding communities you know the answer to why all the confrontations are with white males or their loud mouth girl friends; you don't know jack sh*t about this dynamic.

5) Black Israelites screaming their beliefs, exercising their First Amendmant rights

240) White teenagers, some number of whom did a Haka in response to the black guys, well a bad imitation (perhaps you don't know what a War Haka is or the traditional meanings behind them, I assume it was some variation of a peruperu, I won't get into the cultural appropriation BS)

1 Native American Vietnam veteran with a drum

and the white kid with the MAGA hat was terrified

and all the media spinning it every which way

As I said before
Glad to hear you got that white, it's certainly not cloudy in your mind.

Ooooohh two weekends with a clicker, did she keep track of percentages of white vs Minorities? How did she know they were not from the surrounding communities? Where are the numbers? You were the one spouting about having facts, so let me see them. So far I’ve seen none.

Are these A-holes you speak of a-holes because they are white or because their parents raised little A-holes? I’d like to believe it’s the latter.

Claiming someone is an A-hole based on the color of their skin is pretty racist you know
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I was always told the correct terminology is Mass-hole, that it is typically bred into people and their heritage is very apparent when they are behind the wheel of a motor vehicle, near a sports arena or broadcast. ;)

Two weekends in the summer is a sampling of approximately 1200 people, but clearly this is a circular debate, where you are right and I’m wrong so we put end it here.
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Well, you got most everything wrong. Watch the full video.

The Black Israelite group of maybe 4 or 5 were hurling insults at everyone, they were just trying to provoke people to pay attention to them. The kids started coming up, a group of 240 or formed and started yelling back, then frenetically jumping all over, it was then the elder stepped in as by his stated reasoning he thought a mob mentality may break out and there could be violence. I've seen groups turn violent like this, you don't see it coming and suddenly you're in it.

The elder just walked towards the crowd with some others drumming behind him. The kid who was laughing before takes a position to stare him down with a smirk on his face. You wouldn't do this unless you're trying to make a power play. The MAGA hat is significant, if this kid is a Trump fan he obviously doesn't mind Trump's disrespect toward Native Americans. Actually the kids decked out head to Trump gear all look like they're trying to provoke.

This isn't end of times stuff, but the initial response to the video wasn't that far off. That the kid's parents hired a PR FIRM to write his response is pretty telling. What a missed teaching moment.

And again, where were the adults? If they had been doing their job they would have moved the kids away for their own safety.

Trump backs students from Lincoln memorial confrontation

Nick Sandmann and the students of Covington have become symbols of Fake News and how evil it can be.


SAD When you start using the children to spread your misinformation

Shall we Start the Trump Youth to complete MAGA

Here’s my final post on this
If you know the Covington HS kids, discuss it with them
If you know the Black Israelites, discuss it with them
If you know the Native American drummer, talk to him
Keep a open mind, people’s memories are driven by their experiences
If you put these people in a room, they would very likely find common ground
That is what made America great, not politicians, the media or people ranting on the internet.
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Out of all parties involved it looks to me that the kids showed the most restraint. Funny how Wayne bought the central media excuse of racism,but unfortunately typical in today’s climate of fake news.
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the White House has reached out to host the students. Sandmann said, "The President wants to send a plane down to get us."

Trump is using the incident because of sagging approval ratings: “By focusing on an issue that motivates his base instead of on the shutdown, for which he’s broadly taking the blame, there is little political downside for the president.”

Didn't write it but I am sure it's fake news because it's spot on

Ps where did I mention racism ?