This roaring economy couldn’t scare a gazelle... so roaring the fed just had to announce rate freezes for the rest of ‘19
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you’re right it’s a weak economy.
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That was easier than I expected
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It's idiotic. Unemployment down, wages up, GDP growth up. None of that means anything to you, because you hate the guy in charge at the moment.

Paul Krugman is a Nobel prize-winning economist, who said that believing in 3% GDP growth, is like believing in the Tooth Fairy. Trump did it. He did, what they said couldn't be done. And not one of them conceded Trump was right and they were wrong.

Snack on that.

Trump said sustained 3% growth which we're nowhere near and forecasts are for a continued decline.

Sounds familiar to previous predictions Jeff. Anyone can read. Anyone can make predictions. History tells us what actually happens. Trump is not the type to under promise and over deliver but so far the economy has exceeded expectations of your media.
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you have zip
to say about Krugman suggesting the US economy won’t survive Trump, and you pivot immediately to bashing Trump.

Yawn.
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were these forecasts generated by the same forecasters who forecasted that Hilary would win in a landslide? So you accidentally proved my point. When do YOU, Spence, conclude that these people are more driven by ideology than truth, how many times will you allow them to completely mislead you, before you stop listening to them?

You’re like Charlie Brown, confident that THIS TIME, Lucy won’t pull the football away from you at the last second.
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I was wrong, you got me there... wasn’t as easy as I thought.

My comments about the economy aren’t aimed at any particular party or person in charge, they’re aimed at the current state of the economy.

It’s funny to me how all these economic indicators switch with the person in charge in the White House. When Obama was in charge, unemployment being down just meant a ton of people stopped looking for jobs. Now it means the president is an economic genius.

Spare me... please
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i don’t know who you’re referring to. i give obama credit constantly, for helping the economy. i can give credit or criticism when its deserved, regardless of party.
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I don't know of any economic models (except from the WH) that say we're going to maintain 3% growth.

Another item from the investigation people seem to be glossing over. Mueller handed out indictments to 14 Russians over the election interference.

As one reporter said this morning, Trump asked for help from Russia, Russia helped, Trump benefited in the election and Russia benefited from Trump helping to cover it up. This may not meet the legal standard for conspiracy which requires a clearly established agreement, but I'd like to see anyone who thinks this is how our democracy should function. It's a betrayal.

Jeff,when Hillary was given questions from Donna Brazile did it bother you at all? When she deleted 30,000 emails was that an example of how democracy should function? Why does filthy politics only upset you when there is an (R) next to the name? Just curious.
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Are you still focused on believing models that have let you down already. That’s insanity.
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Why not bring up that Trump was given questions by Roger Ailes?

Longtime Fox News president Roger Ailes fed Donald Trump debate questions, according to a lengthy new investigation from the New Yorker.
The piece, written by Jane Mayer and published on Monday in advance of their March issue, says that even Megyn Kelly’s famously tough question to Trump about his past remarks toward women were slipped to the billionaire in advance.
“A pair of Fox insiders and a source close to Trump believe that Ailes informed the Trump campaign about Kelly’s question,” Mayer said. “Two of those sources say that they know of the tipoff from a purported eyewitness. In addition, a former Trump campaign aide says that a Fox contact gave him advance notice of a different debate question, which asked the candidates whether they would support the Republican nominee, regardless of who won.”

"As one reporter said"--there's your problem. Other reporters have said that Trump's asking Russia for help (in front of the entire nation and the context in which it was "asked") was pure sarcasm. That you would stoop to this sarcastic Trumpism as a "betrayal" makes you more insidious and dangerous than what you want Trump to be.

Spence, how about Hilary’s getting help from foreigners and foreign governments to put together the Steele dossier, which was used to get a FISA surveillance warrant on Carter Page? Hilary paid for that garbage dossier, and Obamas DOJ used it to spy on an American. If you have no problem with that, you have no reason to be worried about Trumps relationship with Russia.

Naked hypocrisy.

God we all need to start nominating differwnt kinds of people.

I like Ike.
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I think Brazile gave the campaign maybe two questions, it's not ethical certainly but not worth freaking out over.

Hillary didn't delete any emails either. Her SysAdmin forgot to purge them before the investigation even started and mistakenly did it later when they should have been preserved. FBI investigation came up clean.

How you think his has parity with a US President actively covering up illegal election meddling by an adversary is beyond me.

He was briefed as a candidate that Russia was trying to influence the election yet he consistently and publicly claimed otherwise, likely because he knew it would benefit his chances or perhaps other areas of compromise. He was briefed as President that Russia the same and yet stood on stage with Putin and claimed otherwise for what reason we don't know. It's hard to fathom a legitimate reason.

I had thought the Mueller report was looking into Russian influence over Trump, probably one of the most concerning issues, yet Barr made zero mention in his summary.

Why?

The campaign paid for opposition research to a US firm who hired an ex spy. Nothing wrong with that. The FISA thing has been gone over a thousand times. If you think Obama was able to get the DOJ and numerous Republican appointed judges to conspire against Trump you're crazy. Carter Page was being watched by the FBI for his Russia contacts long before the Dossier.

You have not given any evidence that there was Russian traitorous influence over Trump. Why should Barr mention something that was not proven to exist. Nor have you pointed out where Trump actually asked Russia for help. Referring to Trump's sarcastic comment on national TV is really weak.

We know for a fact that Trump's personal business ties to Russian money are very deep. We also know they lied about very recent business dealings repeatedly. This was a major consideration heading into the investigation.

If there was found to be no influence you would assume this would be a major finding.

You still have not pointed out any traitorous influence that the Russian government had over Trump.

it "appears" that there was......:heybaby:

When did that happen Jeff? They should launch an investigation.
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spence is freakin'.....

Try these on for size

1, Why so many people lied to investigators about their communications with Russian officials (including former Attorney General Jeff Sessions and former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, to name two prominent examples).

2. Why Trump publicly lied about his negotiations with Russia to build a Trump Tower in Moscow during the campaign.

3. Why Trump is so solicitous of Putin in contrast to his antagonistic approach to American allies such as Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, Angela Merkel and Macron.

4. Why Trump tried to lift sanctions on Russia in the wake of the public announcement that America’s electoral process had been attacked by the Russians.

5.Why Trump’s campaign chair, Paul Manafort, shared internal polling data with a suspected Russian asset.

6.Why Trump confiscated his interpreter’s notes from a private meeting with Putin.

You might want to share these revelations with the FBI PeteF. If they knew about such activity they would launch an investigation. You have exposed quite the story here.
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Exactly. These things were investigated and Mueller came to the conclusion that there was no conspiracy to influence the election. The six points Pete enumerated were neither illegal nor verified to be conspiratorial. Everything the anti-Trumpers kept coming up with as proof was some form of innuendo or circumstantial "evidence" that could mean many things but were not verified to be conspiratorial.