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wdmso 03-26-2019 11:03 AM

Heard this on the radio
Since when is the media expected to have the exact same outcome as a 2 year investigation with almost zero leaks

The 2 are not again remotely the same but once a gain some want us to think the same standard exists in both
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detbuch 03-26-2019 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1164505)
Heard this on the radio
Since when is the media expected to have the exact same outcome as a 2 year investigation with almost zero leaks

The 2 are not again remotely the same but once a gain some want us to think the same standard exists in both
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You're right, it may not be ethical but the media is allowed to slant. Investigations either prove or disprove or remain uncertain. They are not supposed to imply.

Firmly basing your opinion and belief on media reportage on that which has not been proven is risky and foolish.

Jim in CT 03-26-2019 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1164498)
The only thing I've seen where the DOJ might have influenced the election was Comey breaking protocol and making a statement on the status of the investigation. This idea of a grand conspiracy to undercut Trump is nonsense.

none of the texts from lisa page or mccabe or strzok, give you the hint of impropriety. Your concern is applied very very selectively, which of course means it’s fake.
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Jim in CT 03-26-2019 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1164505)
Heard this on the radio
Since when is the media expected to have the exact same outcome as a 2 year investigation with almost zero leaks

The 2 are not again remotely the same but once a gain some want us to think the same standard exists in both
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the media is supposed to be fair and honest, not totally in the tank for one side.
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wdmso 03-26-2019 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1164517)
the media is supposed to be fair and honest, not totally in the tank for one side.
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thats your tinfoil conservative Hat speaking because you're a one source news person If you watched any kind of news it was always questionable whether or not he was gonna be convicted of collusion. or if there was collusion there was no reporting of certainty.. But of course you don't have a problem with bar selling the the notion that there was no obstruction even though he penned a letter so many months prior to getting the AG job indicating just that... and what did he base that decision on? where is the evidence? that he used .there was no obstruction of Justice ..based on . What legal standard was applied to that decision ? not enough evidence ,? that needs to be explained to the American public . And of muller said there was not enough to indite or absolve trump of the question of obstruction of Justice how did Barr Come to such a decision in such a rapid timeframe. And not to worrie it wont take trump long to create another st imposed crisis =1]Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device[/size]

spence 03-26-2019 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1164516)
none of the texts from lisa page or mccabe or strzok, give you the hint of impropriety. Your concern is applied very very selectively, which of course means it’s fake.
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I think professionals can compartmentalize their personal and work. It was investigated and found there was no influence. Have some respect for law enforcement.

Jim in CT 03-26-2019 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1164522)
that your tinfoil conservative Hat speaking because you're a one source news person If you watched any kind of news it was always questionable whether or not he was gonna be convicted of collusion or if there was collusion there was no reporting of certainty.. But of course you don't have a problem with bar selling the the notion that there was no obstruction even though he penned a letter so many months prior to getting the AG job indicating say just that... And all without he based that on where is the evidence that he based that there was no obstruction of Justice based on what
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you think i’m the only one who no longer trusts the media? look at the approval ratings if the media. sorry, it’s not just me.
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Jim in CT 03-26-2019 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1164524)
I think professionals can compartmentalize their personal and work. It was investigated and found there was no influence. Have some respect for law enforcement.

ok, trump collusion was investigated
much more thoroughly, and determined there was no evidence. so why do you dismiss one, and desperately cling to the other?
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Jim in CT 03-26-2019 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1164522)
that your tinfoil conservative Hat speaking because you're a one source news person If you watched any kind of news it was always questionable whether or not he was gonna be convicted of collusion or if there was collusion there was no reporting of certainty.. But of course you don't have a problem with bar selling the the notion that there was no obstruction even though he penned a letter so many months prior to getting the AG job indicating say just that... and what did he base that decision on? where is the evidence that he used that there was no obstruction of Justice ..based . What legal standard wad applied to that decision not enough evidence Did meet the threshold that needs to be explained to the American public . And of moller said there was not enough evidence to convict or absolve trump of the question I'm obstruction of Justice how did Barr Come to such a decision in such a rapid timeframe=1]Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device[/size]

if you think that the notion of a biased media is a republican hoax, have someone read this to you. this is a Gallup poll.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/195542/...s-new-low.aspx
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The Dad Fisherman 03-26-2019 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1164525)
you think i’m the only one who no longer trusts the media? look at the approval ratings if the media. sorry, it’s not just me.
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https://www.acsh.org/news/2018/09/11...st-media-13399

According to a new bombshell report released by Gallup and the Knight Foundation, 94% of Republicans have lost some trust in the media. They aren't alone; 75% of independents and even 42% of Democrats say the same thing. Overall, nearly 7 in 10 adults report a loss of faith in the news. What is going on?

https://content.gallup.com/origin/ga...jcfisbuawa.png

Jim in CT 03-26-2019 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1164530)
https://www.acsh.org/news/2018/09/11...st-media-13399

According to a new bombshell report released by Gallup and the Knight Foundation, 94% of Republicans have lost some trust in the media. They aren't alone; 75% of independents and even 42% of Democrats say the same thing. Overall, nearly 7 in 10 adults report a loss of faith in the news. What is going on?

https://content.gallup.com/origin/ga...jcfisbuawa.png

wdmso says that what’s going on, is that Trumicans are crazy, and that explains all the data in your post.
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DZ 03-26-2019 01:32 PM

In today's world of instant social media news, media outlets are in such a hurry to be the first to scoop a story that they can't/don't/won't vet information.

For this they could/should be held liable for incorrect "news".

Most of CNN/MSNBC has lost all journalistic integrity IMO.

The Dad Fisherman 03-26-2019 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1164531)
wdmso says that what’s going on, is that Trumicans are crazy, and that explains all the data in your post.
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May be time to buy stock in Reynolds Consumer Products, because thats an awful lot of Tinfoil being purchased out there.

spence 03-26-2019 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1164526)
ok, trump collusion was investigated
much more thoroughly, and determined there was no evidence. so why do you dismiss one, and desperately cling to the other?
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Collusion isn't a legal standard. We know there was collusion, hell there were face to face meetings they tried to cover up!

The letter only says they didn't find evidence that met the threshold for a charge of criminal conspiracy. That doesn't mean there was no evidence, it means there may not have been enough. There also could be a ton of evidence that's very damning to Trump but not indictable under DOJ guidelines.

Barr's report really just made this entire mess worse, especially the conflict over obstruction. Many say he's a straight shooter, but this letter really looks like it was intended to give Trump cover while they fight to keep the report hidden.

They need to release everything legally permissible soon and let Congress sort things out.

Pete F. 03-26-2019 01:40 PM

Might have something to do with these things

http://www.trumptwitterarchive.com/a...tff/1-19-2017_

https://www.politifact.com/personali...yruling/false/

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...trump-lie-list

PaulS 03-26-2019 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DZ (Post 1164534)
Most of CNN/MSNBC has lost all journalistic integrity IMO.


https://www.politifact.com/punditfac...tfacts-networ/


https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2.../#8851ea712abc


https://www.poynter.org/reporting-ed...orst-informed/

The Dad Fisherman 03-26-2019 02:44 PM

Why do you folks always assume that because people have a problem with CNN that they are automatically less intelligent and Rabid FOX viewers. Quite the assumption if you ask me

PaulS 03-26-2019 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1164544)
Why do you folks always assume that because people have a problem with CNN that they are automatically less intelligent and Rabid FOX viewers. Quite the assumption if you ask me

Denis made a statement about 2 of the larger networks yet didn't mention the one w/the highest ratings. I pointed out that Fox seems to have "less journalistic integrity" than the 2 mentioned.

Maybe he gets his news from NPR?

Jim in CT 03-26-2019 03:01 PM

I wonder if these thorough studies, were done by the same people who said Hilary was going to win in a landslide.

Fox exposes bias in most of the media, and I'm supposed to be shocked when those same people slander Fox.

Yawn.

Jim in CT 03-26-2019 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1164545)
I pointed out that Fox seems to have "less journalistic integrity" than the 2 mentioned.

?

Watch Tucker Carlson for a week, then watch Chris Hayes or Rachael Maddow for a week on MSNBC, and then Chris Cuomo and Don Lemon at CNN, and let me know who has more integrity, and why.

I watch Tucker Carlson maybe 1-2 times a week. I've never seen a show of his where he didn't criticize Trumps behavior, and I've never seen a show of his where he didn't say to a liberal, "that's a good point".

Liberals can't ever, and I mean EVER, admit they lost a fair fight. Trump beats Hilary, it must be Russian collusion. Fox clobbers CNN and MSNBC in the ratings, they must be appealing to people who can't keep up with watching reruns of "Hee Haw".

PaulS 03-26-2019 04:49 PM

Tucker Carlson isn't he the hero of the white nationalist movement?
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spence 03-26-2019 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1164547)
Watch Tucker Carlson for a week, then watch Chris Hayes or Rachael Maddow for a week on MSNBC, and then Chris Cuomo and Don Lemon at CNN, and let me know who has more integrity, and why.

Any of them have more integrity that Tucker. They may be liberal but they don't just make #^&#^&#^&#^& up day after day.

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I watch Tucker Carlson maybe 1-2 times a week.
It shows.

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Liberals can't ever, and I mean EVER, admit they lost a fair fight. Trump beats Hilary, it must be Russian collusion. Fox clobbers CNN and MSNBC in the ratings, they must be appealing to people who can't keep up with watching reruns of "Hee Haw".
Jim, not sure if you've been following the news but Mueller just handed down 14 indictments for an unprecedented Russian misinformation campaign to influence the 2016 election.

scottw 03-26-2019 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1164557)

Jim, not sure if you've been following the news but Mueller just handed down 14 indictments for an unprecedented Russian misinformation campaign to influence the 2016 election.

did you just wake up from a long nap?

Sea Dangles 03-26-2019 06:13 PM

What that had to do with Trump is the question,they should look into it.
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