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Got Stripers 06-19-2019 05:31 AM

How about looking at all the good people he has forced out, or they just couldn’t continue to work for this crazy short tempered thin skinned reactionary nut job, or let’s look at all the very important cabinet post vacant because he can’t do his job or get good people to stay?
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Sea Dangles 06-19-2019 05:32 AM

How about it, woopie
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Got Stripers 06-19-2019 05:51 AM

Ok dangles you don’t want to look there, how about the list of passed bills Mitch has just sat on because the GOP leader will do nothing but kiss Trumps butt. I’d need an hour to even list them all here, Trump and is band of brother are NOT governing.
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Got Stripers 06-19-2019 05:55 AM

Thankfully cut and paste saves time.

Health care
HR 259 — Medicaid Extenders Act of 2019
House Resolution 271 — Condemning the Trump Administration’s Legal Campaign to Take Away Americans’ Health Care
HR 986 — Protecting Americans with Preexisting Conditions Act of 2019
HR 987 — Strengthening Health Care and Lowering Prescription Drug Costs Act
HR 1520, the Purple Book Continuity Act (bill aimed at lowering the cost of prescription drugs)
HR 1503, the Orange Book Transparency Act of 2019 (bill aimed at lowering the cost of prescription drugs)
Civil rights
HR 1 — For the People Act of 2019
HR 5 — Equality Act
HR 7 — Paycheck Fairness Act
HR 124 — Expressing opposition to banning service in the Armed Forces by openly transgender individuals
Gun control
HR 8 — Bipartisan Background Checks Act of 2019
HR 1112 — Enhanced Background Checks Act of 2019
Environment
HR 9 — Climate Action Now Act
HR 1331 — Local Water Protection Act
S 47 — National Resources Management Act
HR 2578 — National Flood Insurance Program Extension Act of 2019
Military/foreign affairs
HR 840 — Veterans’ Access to Child Care Act
HJ Res. 37 — Directing the removal of United States Armed Forces from hostilities in the Republic of Yemen that have not been authorized by Congress
SJ Res. 7 — To direct the removal of United States Armed Forces from hostilities in the Republic of Yemen that have not been authorized by Congress
HR 31 — Caesar Syria Civilian Protection Act of 2019
HJ Res. 30 — Disapproving the President’s proposal to take an action relating to the application of certain sanctions with respect to the Russian Federation
Mueller report
H.Con.Res. 24 — Expressing the sense of Congress that the report of Special Counsel Mueller should be made available to the public and to Congress.
Other legislation
HR 1585 — Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act of 2019
HR 1500 — Consumers First Act
HR 1994 — SECURE Act
HR 1644 — Save the Internet Act of 2019
HR 2157 — Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2019
HR 269 — Pandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness and Advancing Innovation Act of 2019
HR 251 — Chemical Facility Anti-Terrorism Standards Program Extension Act
S 24 — Government Employee Fair Treatment Act of 2019
HR 430 — TANF Extension Act of 2019
Concurring in the Senate Amendments to HR 251 — Chemical Facility Anti-Terrorism Standard Program Extension Act
HR 790 — Federal Civilian Workforce Pay Raise Fairness Act of 2019
HJ Res. 46 — Relating to a national emergency declared by the President on February 15, 2019
H Res. 183 — Condemning anti-Semitism as hateful expressions of intolerance that are contradictory to the values and aspirations that define the people of the United States and condemning anti-Muslim discrimination and bigotry against minorities as hateful expressions of intolerance that are contrary to the values and aspirations of the United States, as amended
H Res. 194 — Rule Providing for Consideration of H.R. 1644 and H.R. 2021
HR 2480 — Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act
HR 375 — To amend the Indian Reorganization Act of 1934 to reaffirm the authority of the Secretary of the Interior to take land into trust for Indian Tribes (also known as the “Carcieri Fix”)
Votes to end the government shutdown
HR 21 — Making appropriations for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2019, and for other purposes
HJ Res. 1 — Making further continuing appropriations for the Department of Homeland Security for fiscal year 2019, and for other purposes
HR 265 — Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2019
HR 267 — Transportation, Housing and Urban Development, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2019
HR 266 — Department of the Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2019
HR 268 — Disaster Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2019 (Disaster Supplemental and short-term continuing resolution through Feb. 8)
HR 264 — Financial Services and General Government Appropriations Act
HJ Res. 28 — Further Additional Continuing Appropriations Act, 2019 (Short-term continuing resolution through Feb. 28)
HR 648 — Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2019 (Six conferenced bills minibus)
HJ Res. 31 — Making further continuing appropriations for the Department of Homeland Security for fiscal year 2019 (Short-term homeland continuing resolution through Feb. 28)
Conference Report to Accompany HJ Res 31 – Making consolidated appropriations for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2019, and for other purposes
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Jim in CT 06-19-2019 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1168836)
How about looking at all the good people he has forced out, or they just couldn’t continue to work for this crazy short tempered thin skinned reactionary nut job, or let’s look at all the very important cabinet post vacant because he can’t do his job or get good people to stay?
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i’ve never heard anyone say he's a nice guy who is easy and pleasant to be around. That doesn’t mean his policies aren’t working. You made a strong statement that our standing in the world has taken a hit because of trump, i asked for evidence, there isn’t any.

i work at a very large company. in my experience, the people who run such companies are usually mean pr*cks. And i do not care. I care whether or not they can help the company.
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scottw 06-19-2019 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1168836)
How about looking at all the good people he has forced out, or they just couldn’t continue to work for this crazy short tempered thin skinned reactionary nut job, or let’s look at all the very important cabinet post vacant because he can’t do his job or get good people to stay?
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too bad we can't get that kind of turn over in the rest of the government:kewl:

scottw 06-19-2019 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1168840)
Thankfully cut and paste saves time.


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most of that is nonsense anyway

Got Stripers 06-19-2019 06:22 AM

Love Trumps platform for 2020, more of the same, running on hate, fear, us against the evil dems; no mention of anything of substance.
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Got Stripers 06-19-2019 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1168844)
too bad we can't get that kind of turn over in the rest of the government:kewl:

Won’t argue with that one, term limits would correct much of this BS, but considering who would have to change that, my life will be spent long before that ever happens.
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The Dad Fisherman 06-19-2019 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1168847)
Love Trumps platform for 2020, more of the same, running on hate, fear, us against the evil dems; no mention of anything of substance.
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and yet the entire democratic theme for the Mid-terms was "We need to impeach Trump"

Got Stripers 06-19-2019 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1168849)
and yet the entire democratic theme for the Mid-terms was "We need to impeach Trump"

Apparently you haven’t listened to a single dem candidate, because unlike Trump, the majority are running on substance and policy. I like many believe it’s time to begin an impeachment herring to stop the stonewalling by the executive branch, but that isn’t their platform. Biden is the exception, he seems to be running as the guy how can beat Trump and he isn’t wrong, but others could too.
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The Dad Fisherman 06-19-2019 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1168851)
Apparently you haven’t listened to a single dem candidate, because unlike Trump, the majority are running on substance and policy. I like many believe it’s time to begin an impeachment herring to stop the stonewalling by the executive branch, but that isn’t their platform. Biden is the exception, he seems to be running as the guy how can beat Trump and he isn’t wrong, but others could too.
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I'm listening, but I specified the Mid term elections in 2018.

you know, the rocket scientists who said 'We're gonna impeach this Mudda Fukka"

Got Stripers 06-19-2019 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1168852)
I'm listening, but I specified the Mid term elections in 2018.

you know, the rocket scientists who said 'We're gonna impeach this Mudda Fukka"

I was talking about a Trump’s 2020 platform and your living in the past, hit the fast forward button and catch up.
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The Dad Fisherman 06-19-2019 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1168853)
I was talking about a Trump’s 2020 platform and your living in the past, hit the fast forward button and catch up.
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Just curious if you were this upset last year with all that hateful speech. You must have had some kind of epiphany between then and now if you're so offended by it.

scottw 06-19-2019 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1168851)

I like many believe it’s time to begin an impeachment herring


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red?

Pete F. 06-19-2019 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1168819)
no beautiful or memorable phrases? who gives a sh*t? you’d rather have a poet who can’t lead effectively?

you crack me up.

what were Hilary’s most eloquent, memorable quotable statements from her campaign? when she pretended to be black that time when she was speaking to blacks ( i ain’t no ways tired, or whatever the hell she said...). or the deplorables statement describing half the country?
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Still stuck in 2016, I see.

The Dad Fisherman 06-19-2019 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1168857)
red?

Pickled

Jim in CT 06-19-2019 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1168858)
Still stuck in 2016, I see.

so nothing that happened before trump, matters? if you didn’t care that obama did something but go berserk when trump does the same thing, it’s not legitimate to point that out? it’s not valid o question the glaring double standard?

Who announced that all pre-existing rules and standards were thrown out the window, on the day Trump took office? I missed that announcement I guess.

Where are the concentration camps where millions of illegals are being slaughtered? I can’t find any stories about them, but it must be true, right? AOC said he set up concentration camps, and i haven’t seen anyone except foxnews say she’s lying. and you can’t trust foxnews, right? So where are these death camps? or was AOC lying, and the mainstream
media refuses to say so? Which is it?
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Jim in CT 06-19-2019 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1168858)
Still stuck in 2016, I see.

so things that were totally acceptable for all previous presidents to do, are not acceptable for trump to do. that’s what you’re saying...different standards for Trump. nice to see one of you admit it.
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spence 06-19-2019 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1168854)
Just curious if you were this upset last year with all that hateful speech. You must have had some kind of epiphany between then and now if you're so offended by it.

Nah, that's not hate...

This is hate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Paf8MPhSG08

spence 06-19-2019 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1168826)
You make some good points here but it is not so simple to earn the badge of snowflake. See PeteF and his routine filibuster to grasp a true and dedicated #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&. Spence used to chase the title but the Donald wore him out. Wayne simply chases his own tail while blowing a rape whistle.
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You're confusing fatigue with boredom. You're really boring.

detbuch 06-19-2019 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1168869)
Nah, that's not hate...

This is hate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Paf8MPhSG08

That is a professionally edited hit job. As far as hate goes, if I believed that some teen aged "children" did what they were convicted of, I would hate them.

spence 06-19-2019 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1168871)
That is a professionally edited hit job. As far as hate goes, if I believed that some teen aged "children" did what they were convicted of, I would hate them.

Yea, Ken Burns, what a hack.

Pete F. 06-19-2019 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1168866)
so nothing that happened before trump, matters? if you didn’t care that obama did something but go berserk when trump does the same thing, it’s not legitimate to point that out? it’s not valid o question the glaring double standard?
You're the one who's head keeps exploding, claiming that but Hillary etc. as justification for Trump. And now it's Obama
Who announced that all pre-existing rules and standards were thrown out the window, on the day Trump took office? I missed that announcement I guess.
https://www.brookings.edu/interactiv...the-trump-era/

Where are the concentration camps where millions of illegals are being slaughtered? I can’t find any stories about them, but it must be true, right? AOC said he set up concentration camps, and i haven’t seen anyone except foxnews say she’s lying. and you can’t trust foxnews, right? So where are these death camps? or was AOC lying, and the mainstream
media refuses to say so? Which is it?
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Where did you come up with "death camps"? Are you claiming AOC said that? or hallucinating with the TDS that you keep projecting onto others?

Andrea Pitzer, author of One Long Night: A Global History of Concentration Camps, has a more global definition.
“We have what I would call a concentration camp system,” Pitzer says, “and the definition of that in my book is, mass detention of civilians without trial.”
"What's required is a little bit of demystification of it," says Waitman Wade Beorn, a Holocaust and genocide studies historian and a lecturer at the University of Virginia. "Things can be concentration camps without being Dachau or Auschwitz. Concentration camps in general have always been designed—at the most basic level—to separate one group of people from another group. Usually, because the majority group, or the creators of the camp, deem the people they're putting in it to be dangerous or undesirable in some way."

Jim in CT 06-19-2019 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1168873)
Where did you come up with "death camps"? Are you claiming AOC said that? or hallucinating with the TDS that you keep projecting onto others?

Andrea Pitzer, author of One Long Night: A Global History of Concentration Camps, has a more global definition.
“We have what I would call a concentration camp system,” Pitzer says, “and the definition of that in my book is, mass detention of civilians without trial.”
"What's required is a little bit of demystification of it," says Waitman Wade Beorn, a Holocaust and genocide studies historian and a lecturer at the University of Virginia. "Things can be concentration camps without being Dachau or Auschwitz. Concentration camps in general have always been designed—at the most basic level—to separate one group of people from another group. Usually, because the majority group, or the creators of the camp, deem the people they're putting in it to be dangerous or undesirable in some way."


i’m not excusing trumps behavior, i criticize it all the time. i just ask for a speck of consistency from the likes of you. But you are literally and explicitly saying that the standards of 2016 and prior, no longer apply. Your side changed the rules with Trump.
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Jim in CT 06-19-2019 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1168873)
Where did you come up with "death camps"? Are you claiming AOC said that? or hallucinating with the TDS that you keep projecting onto others?

Andrea Pitzer, author of One Long Night: A Global History of Concentration Camps, has a more global definition.
“We have what I would call a concentration camp system,” Pitzer says, “and the definition of that in my book is, mass detention of civilians without trial.”
"What's required is a little bit of demystification of it," says Waitman Wade Beorn, a Holocaust and genocide studies historian and a lecturer at the University of Virginia. "Things can be concentration camps without being Dachau or Auschwitz. Concentration camps in general have always been designed—at the most basic level—to separate one group of people from another group. Usually, because the majority group, or the creators of the camp, deem the people they're putting in it to be dangerous or undesirable in some way."

he’s compared to Hitler all the time. Don Lemon did it last night, you can ask one of the 12 people
who were watching.

if your definition of a concentration camp is a place where people are held without trial, (1) that’s way outside what most people think of when they think of that term and you know it, and (2) even by that definition, it’s asinine to say that’s what we are setting up. these people are detained until
they have hearings, not indefinitely.

and again, keeping kids in cages during obama’s presidency, was never an issue. it only became immoral in january 2017. right?
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scottw 06-19-2019 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1168870)
You're confusing fatigue with boredom. You're really boring.

he's hilarious...you are tiresome

scottw 06-19-2019 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1168873)

Where did you come up with "death camps"? Are you claiming AOC said that?

ummm...like....yeah

I think her word was "consecration" camps :laugha:

Pete F. 06-19-2019 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1168876)
he’s compared to Hitler all the time. Don Lemon did it last night, you can ask one of the 12 people
who were watching.

if your definition of a concentration camp is a place where people are held without trial, (1) that’s way outside what most people think of when they think of that term and you know it, and (2) even by that definition, it’s asinine to say that’s what we are setting up. these people are detained until
they have hearings, not indefinitely.

and again, keeping kids in cages during obama’s presidency, was never an issue. it only became immoral in january 2017. right?
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You didn't answer my question. Or is the he's (I assume Trump) compared to Hitler all the time an answer?

Who were the eleven people besides you who were watching Lemon and why would I care, especially since it is apparently such a limited audience.

I think perhaps you may have attained the rank among Trumplicans of Obergruppensplainer. SAD

If you look at Trump campaign supporters being rewarded look no further than who is holding immigrants and see GEO Group and CoreCivic stock prices.
Just a little view of the Trump swamp, that he claimed to be draining.
Wonder what his and his families holdings of those stocks amount to?

Jim in CT 06-19-2019 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1168885)
You didn't answer my question. Or is the he's (I assume Trump) compared to Hitler all the time an answer?

Who were the eleven people besides you who were watching Lemon and why would I care, especially since it is apparently such a limited audience.

I think perhaps you may have attained the rank among Trumplicans of Obergruppensplainer. SAD

If you look at Trump campaign supporters being rewarded look no further than who is holding immigrants and see GEO Group and CoreCivic stock prices.
Just a little view of the Trump swamp, that he claimed to be draining.
Wonder what his and his families holdings of those stocks amount to?

"You didn't answer my question"

Was the question, where did I come yup with death camps?

Answer: From Fredo Ocasio-Cortez. She said Trump is setting up concentration camps where people are being brutalized and killed, and she said "never again", a phrase commonly associated with the Holocaust.

She specifically referred to people at these concentration camps, as being "brutalized" and "killed". I concluded she was referring to death camps. You disagree. Fine.

I answered your question directly. Return the favor? Do you stand by your comment that it's "bizarre" of me to claim that Biden said the things he said? Or was I 100% correct that he said them?

Pete F. 06-19-2019 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1168886)
"You didn't answer my question"

Was the question, where did I come yup with death camps?

Answer: From Fredo Ocasio-Cortez. She said Trump is setting up concentration camps where people are being brutalized and killed, and she said "never again", a phrase commonly associated with the Holocaust.

She specifically referred to people at these concentration camps, as being "brutalized" and "killed". I concluded she was referring to death camps. You disagree. Fine.

I answered your question directly. Return the favor? Do you stand by your comment that it's "bizarre" of me to claim that Biden said the things he said? Or was I 100% correct that he said them?

Who is Fredo? Is she a relative of the junior representative from NY that Trumplicans love to hate? Or is that a name Tucker Hannity came up with?

You have now lost your way and are in the wrong thread, your cubicle mates must be scratching their heads at your mumbling.

Jim in CT 06-19-2019 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1168889)
Who is Fredo? Is she a relative of the junior representative from NY that Trumplicans love to hate? Or is that a name Tucker Hannity came up with?

You have now lost your way and are in the wrong thread, your cubicle mates must be scratching their heads at your mumbling.

Fredo is a reference to the film The Godfather, Fredo was the idiot who couldn’t do anything and was constantly embarrassing himself. It fits someone who would compare trump to hitler.

pete, if you think i’m angry, i’m not. the gop is doing great at the moment, my IRA is up, my net pay is up, any fellow citizens are working. i suspect trump will get clobbered next year, which is ok, the pendulum swings in both directions, that’s healthy.

when i point out the obvious hypocrisy displayed by you and spence, i’m laughing when i do so, not angry. believe that, don’t believe it, i could care less.
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wdmso 06-19-2019 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1168826)
You make some good points here but it is not so simple to earn the badge of snowflake. See PeteF and his routine filibuster to grasp a true and dedicated #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&. Spence used to chase the title but the Donald wore him out. Wayne simply chases his own tail while blowing a rape whistle.
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funny you cry the most here.. why is that :lama:

Sea Dangles 06-19-2019 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1168896)
funny you cry the most here.. why is that :lama:

I am an emotional guy and you are the the tough guy?
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Sea Dangles 06-19-2019 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1168880)
he's hilarious...you are tiresome

The fact he acknowledged the joke with a response is enlightening. Very sad.
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spence 06-19-2019 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1168912)
The fact he acknowledged the joke with a response is enlightening. Very sad.
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Looks like Trump doesn't have any new material, neither do you. Yawn.

Got Stripers 06-19-2019 06:32 PM

His rally was filled with the same old same old, like traveling back in time and of course it was filled with the usual lies and false statements.
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Sea Dangles 06-19-2019 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1168914)
Looks like Trump doesn't have any new material, neither do you. Yawn.

Sending you good thoughts tonight Jeff.
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scottw 06-20-2019 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1168914)
Looks like Trump doesn't have any new material Yawn.

the democraps do?...well...I guess if you count new stuff to give away



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detbuch 06-20-2019 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1168872)
Yea, Ken Burns, what a hack.

Ooooooooohhh . . . Ken Burns! Let us bow and scrape. The great Ken Burns has spoken!

Yeah, Ken Burns is very professionally capable of making something look like something else. He's not a hack. He's a very polished, professional writer who knows how to convince.

The edited clips in your video, taken out of context . . . you know . . . context! . . . the stuff you like to bring up in order to mitigate the stupidity of some opinion you hold . . .taken out of context makes Trump to be a really vicious, hateful, nasty, racist, whatever.

But Trump was reacting to the really vicious, hateful, nasty (and possibly racist) criminal stuff that was going on in the streets of NY at the time. And maybe the rage Trump was expressing, and was also reflecting the feeling of the citizens of that city, resulted in the election of Giuliani who cleared the mess up few years later. And, as for racism, Trump pointed out in his editorial that the crimes were against all races including blacks and latinos. The Central Park incidence was one small bit of the totality Trump was speaking about, not just about the five teens. When he called for the reinstatement of the death penalty, it was specifically for murderers, which was pretty clear if you read his now infamous editorial. He did not call for the death of the five teenagers. And for those who committed the brutal crimes other than murder (including, presumably, the five)which were threatening the civility of his city, he called for punishment, as a deterrent, not psychoanalytical analysis of "why" they are such twisted beings.

Over the top? Perhaps. But not what your video makes Trump out to be. And that was thirty years ago. People are demanding Trump apologize and criticize him for not doing so. He points out that the five were charged with other crimes for which they were not exonerated, and that many of the prosecutors still believe that the teens, as well as several others that night in the park, were guilty of the mayhem that was occurring that night (not just against the jogger).

I'm not going to say Trump is right, nor that he is wrong, but I'm not going to go oooohh, Ken Burns! Gotta believe what he portrays . . . because he is Ken Burns.


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