Nixon was safe also and he didn’t sell out his country like Putin’s Puppet
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Nixon did the right thing and resigned, Trump has never done the right thing, so he probably will need to be cuffed and shown the door. Better yet take him right to a NY district attorney van for the drive to court for arraignment.
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[QUOTE=Raider Ronnie;1176739]But but Bengiza. TDS at its best
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wayne at his best :laugha:

I hope she wins

told you it was crap...if they continue the constant barrage the can probably improve on the numbers though...


https://nypost.com/2019/10/12/fox-ne...poll-analysis/

I have issues with things stated by multiple Presidents and elected officials. Including this one.

Here is the thing: A lot of the things he says can be debated as to how bad the statement is. Problem is that a lot of the things he says, while tone deaf (or instigating), are not the end of the world as many on the left cry in shock and horror. We've died twelve times over (34 Scaramouchis?) now from Net Neutrality and apparently I've stolen Greta's childhood.

Many people in the right and center no longer care at the outrage of the left.


What you said here - and maybe you missed it: Imagine if Trump was calling out Jews instead of Somalis like Omar.

What I said was, Omar DOES call out the Jews.

You cannot use the plight and oppression of the Jews as a foil against Trump over Omar when he does not use the Jews in that way, and yet she DOES use them in that way. Up to the point where she has been the focus of Congressional Censure that got watered down ant the last minute.

Exactly, the incessant caterwauling by the left as been relegated to being nothing more than a bed room fan, just white noise whirring in the background.
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oh good...more stupidity from the left...


San Francisco Chronicle:

SACRAMENTO — Undocumented immigrants and other non-citizens will be allowed to serve on state boards and commissions after Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a package of bills Saturday intended to integrate immigrants further into society.

", just white noise whirring in the background." up until the point it is generating humor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoO-LFiuP80

why do people on the right associate every liberal on the left with clearly crazy left people ... but get upset when the left associates them with the far right or white supremacy.. and suggest the center is also upset... but you can't be in the center , because you dont agree with them but they haven't defined what they accept as center ?

This is overseas where there is enough crazy. I chose not to post something from this country - could have found it of course.

Why do people on the left feel that those that do not agree with them are fascists and racists? Why do a lot of people on the left feel that those supporting Trump makes them a fascist?



Why do people that identify as center, are not center, continue to tell everyone else what the center is ; ) ?

Will the real classic liberals please stand up

I’m not sure you have any real liberals on this site to stand up. I know some hardcore progressives and they are way, way, way to the left of me.
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:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence

I know some hardcore progressives and they are way, way, way to the left of me.





he's :screwy:

We need to do a little less bashing of each other around here.

I think you should be asking the classic Republicans to stand up.. rather than selling out


Moderates Are 'Politically Homeless.' Does Either Party Want Them?

I agree
push back against a position with a counter position (lables and name calling or personal insults are clearly not a counter position )

Good luck, some leopards just never change their spots. They bitch so much about how the left just hates Trump, yet their rhetoric and constant insults proof how much they hate anyone expressing legitimate concerns over their guy.
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Coming from the “concern a day” club must have privileges. If you are constant in your criticism then I am sure you know what to expect at this point.
Do you have any friends that whine about the same crap on a daily basis? Do you constantly embrace them and tell them everything will be ok? Or do you kick them in the pants and tell them to move on with their lives? I honestly just don’t think you realize there is a point where the message gets diluted. Think about it.

Yes,you have earned the right to complain. Just as some are justified in complaining about the constant complaining.
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The difference I think is that I don’t lower myself to juvenile insults and at times some really offensive statements and being an adult with control; if you don’t want to read the reaction of the day to the stupid arrse tweet or move of the day by Cheeto; be strong and walk away. Go take a walk, play or call one of your kids, go take a few casts, go wrap a rod, I suspect there are lots of chores to do; but instead you bitch, bitch, insult and insult some more, show some self control.
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So there you go. An action gets a reaction but you cling to innocence. Show some self control and you just might get the same in turn.

Or just keep digging the hole, your choice.
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this is like wayne and spence claiming to be centrists :jester:

Sure nothing to be concerned about, Trump wakes up and addresses Hunters interview performance, that of course is FAR more important than trying to undo the mess he created in Syria. SD almost never actually debates, it’s more of the same, greatest president, burger or yada yada. Scott is Mr. Whataboutism, Jim at least has good points worth debate at times and makes an effort to keep it above board. You two are echo chambers of the talking point of the day and throw insults around like twelve year olds.

Hey try this, explain why it’s OK for Trump to take a phone call and make a reversal of long time policy throwing the Kurds under the buss in the process without sitting down to discuss with ANYONE? That move is troubling to me and not just for the reasons I’ve already stated, what other impulsive moves with our military is he capable of making?
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ISIS was defeated.

Until Donald Trump set them free.

All by himself.

He caved to foreign powers to protect his bottom line.

Left our allies to be slaughtered.

Ordered American troops to cut and run.

Our soldiers call it an act of betrayal.

Trump calls it winning.

And ISIS agrees.

it's funny how you two paint narratives that didn't happen then act perplexed by the narratives you painted and act shocked that nobody is as upset as you are...good greif

The next President of the United States will be on stage tonight.

What narrative painted above is wrong? Did he or did he not pull troops from the northern boarder after one phone call and it’s been confirmed there was no input from most of the key departments who would normally be key in this type of decision. Or maybe all the reporting about the results of that troop pull out are fake news as well.
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Stand up and go where?

I did not vote for Trump but if the alternative is what I have been seeing from the Dem Debates so far than I am surely not voting for one of them.

I think (hopefully) we can survive 4 more years of Trump, but I am not sure we can survive 4 years of a Progressive left in power.

Talk about letting the genie out of the bottle.🙄
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To the left, John, waaaaaay to the left, that way they can feel better about what they consider center.
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Lets try getting them standing up to Trump 1st . Never suggested they go any where.. ?

And if you think a progressive puts this country at greater peril than another 4 years of Trump . Your farther to the right than I am left .that for sure
As for Debates they're no better than Trumps rallies writing checks making promises they cant cash. And a congress wont entertain it any way . look at the Senate they wont bring anything to the floor unless they know Trump will sign it.. hows that for democracy and debate
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ummmm...I hope you watched that :rotf2::rotf2::rotf2:

pretty much every narrative you paint is wrong, embellished, exaggerated and hints of severe crankiness...but it's ok, I know it makes you feel better to vent....:huh:

What a strong case and wonderful list of counterpoints 😂😂😂😂😂😂
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I'm confident that you will continue to prove me correct