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Sea Dangles 10-30-2019 03:22 AM

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scottw 10-30-2019 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1178242)
Pretty sad that the desperate GOP mouth pieces and RNC media disparage a loyal patriot and someone willing to put his life on the line for OUR freedom, in order to discredit his honest accounting of the “perfect” call. The cover up is beginning to unravel and the distraction tactics will ramp up out of necessity.
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it would be fun to compile your predictions of doom

Pete F. 10-30-2019 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1178240)
When is Trump going down?

I agree Pence is not electable as POTUS. Next up, my prediction, Nikki Haley. Then we'll see who is waging war on women.

Surprised you like her
She won’t reduce our presence in the ME
NikkiHaley takes a thinly-veiled shot at Trump’s foreign policy: “It would be nicer and cheaper if the world didn’t need American leadership. Sadly, that’s not the world we live in.”
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scottw 10-30-2019 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1178252)

NikkiHaley takes a thinly-veiled shot at Trump’s foreign policy: “It would be nicer and cheaper if the world didn’t need American leadership. Sadly, that’s not the world we live in.”

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sounds like a thinly-veiled shot at the world

wdmso 10-30-2019 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1178242)
Pretty sad that the desperate GOP mouth pieces and RNC media disparage a loyal patriot and someone willing to put his life on the line for OUR freedom, in order to discredit his honest accounting of the “perfect” call. The cover up is beginning to unravel and the distraction tactics will ramp up out of necessity.
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Supporters dont care it was on Fox or BREITBART it has to be True

Funny hearings for nixon Clinton Impeachments and benghazi probe were all conducted behind closed door .. Republicans complaining about precedence is laughable.. (and spewing revisionist history )

can you say Merrick Garland yet they have said if a vacancy occurs within the same time frame prior until the next election they will not wait until after the election so much for precedence


Republicans Accuse Colonel Vindman, a Jew Who Fled Soviet Persecution, of Dual Loyalty

“Here we have a U.S. national security official who is advising Ukraine while working inside the White House, apparently against the president’s interest,” Fox News host Laura Ingraham said on Monday night.

Only republicans get away with claiming to be patriots and attacking patriots... its always conspiracy after conspiracy supported by state new FOX :kewl:

Jim in CT 10-30-2019 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1178252)
Surprised you like her
She won’t reduce our presence in the ME
NikkiHaley takes a thinly-veiled shot at Trump’s foreign policy: “It would be nicer and cheaper if the world didn’t need American leadership. Sadly, that’s not the world we live in.”
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There isn’t anybody i’m going to agree with on every issue. She’s conservative, and in my opinion she’s electable. i don’t see how that’s a shot at trump. is trump saying the world doesn’t need us at all? you’re really obsessed.
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Jim in CT 10-30-2019 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1178256)
sounds like a thinly-veiled shot at the world

exactly.

but to him, everything is an excuse to attack trump. it’s something to see.
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Pete F. 10-30-2019 09:23 AM

I heard Trumps staff is going to start raising money for lawyers by selling Tshirts

Sondlands is first

I gave Trump a million for an Ambassadorship

All I got was this lousy perjury charge

Jim in CT 10-30-2019 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1178252)
Surprised you like her
She won’t reduce our presence in the ME
NikkiHaley takes a thinly-veiled shot at Trump’s foreign policy: “It would be nicer and cheaper if the world didn’t need American leadership. Sadly, that’s not the world we live in.”
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you can cherry pick with the best if ‘em.

i read her whole speech, she defended the president, specifically called out those undermining him, and she blasted those who deny america’s greatness, blasted those who rewrite our history, and specifically blasted those who call for open borders. those were explicit criticisms, not thinly veiled, and guess who they were aimed at?
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Pete F. 10-30-2019 12:52 PM

Here’s the twisted view
She’s doing the setup for Pence to resign, DJT to appoint her VP, Trump to resign/ make deal, she to pardon him. It’s gonna play that way. Too little too late, Nikki.
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Jim in CT 10-30-2019 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1178280)
Here’s the twisted view
She’s doing the setup for Pence to resign, DJT to appoint her VP, Trump to resign/ make deal, she to pardon him. It’s gonna play that way. Too little too late, Nikki.
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earlier you were saying she was criticizing trump, now you’re saying she’s trying to get him to make her the VP?

i have news for you, trump is not resigning, not based on what we know right now. He’s going to be the candidate. take off your tin foil
hat, put down the kool
aid, and take a nice, deep breath. Trump may lose the election, but based on what we know right now, he is going to be the candidate, and Pence is likely to be the VP.
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Pete F. 10-30-2019 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1178281)
earlier you were saying she was criticizing trump, now you’re saying she’s trying to get him to make her the VP?

i have news for you, trump is not resigning, not based on what we know right now. He’s going to be the candidate. take off your tin foil
hat, put down the kool
aid, and take a nice, deep breath. Trump may lose the election, but based on what we know right now, he is going to be the candidate, and Pence is likely to be the VP.
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"Here’s the twisted view"

Of course, he has a transcript so exonerating it had to be edited.
Perfect conversation.......

More and more people will testify, then....

A few weeks of public hearings and the Draftdodger in chief will have called everyone in DC names on either side of the aisle.

Republicans are looking for the point when they can ship him out of DC and claim the high ground for doing so.

Notice the Senators other than the Trump mouthpieces are saying they don't want to comment since they will be jurors...gotta keep those options open.

Meanwhile he's sending Wilber Ross to sleep thru the East Asian Summit and U.S.-ASEAN Summit after pulling out of the TPP and leaving partners looking for stable trade deals, China is happy.

And in Africa, those #^&#^&#^&#^&hole countries, Putin hosted 40 countries in Sochi last week, has signed military agreements with half and has increased it's trade with Africa by almost 20% each year Trump has been in office.

His dream of signing a trade deal in Chile evaporated when they canceled the meeting.

Keep believing in the Stable Genius

Got Stripers 10-30-2019 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1178246)
it would be fun to compile your predictions of doom

Predicting Trump and his news station will go after anyone who comes out with truth that contradicts the narrative is so easy, I wish Vegas put odds on it I’d be buying a really big boat with captain and crew. Not much of a prediction to suggest the “no quid pro quo” narrative was eventually doomed to be dispelled.
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Jim in CT 10-30-2019 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1178288)
"Here’s the twisted view"

Of course, he has a transcript so exonerating it had to be edited.
Perfect conversation.......

More and more people will testify, then....

A few weeks of public hearings and the Draftdodger in chief will have called everyone in DC names on either side of the aisle.

Republicans are looking for the point when they can ship him out of DC and claim the high ground for doing so.

Notice the Senators other than the Trump mouthpieces are saying they don't want to comment since they will be jurors...gotta keep those options open.

Meanwhile he's sending Wilber Ross to sleep thru the East Asian Summit and U.S.-ASEAN Summit after pulling out of the TPP and leaving partners looking for stable trade deals, China is happy.

And in Africa, those #^&#^&#^&#^&hole countries, Putin hosted 40 countries in Sochi last week, has signed military agreements with half and has increased it's trade with Africa by almost 20% each year Trump has been in office.

His dream of signing a trade deal in Chile evaporated when they canceled the meeting.

Keep believing in the Stable Genius

if you think the gop wants him out, you’re clueless. he annihilated hilary, and is obviously their best shot at retaining the white house.

the american people
don’t want us making military commitments all over the world. that’s one reason why he won.

you criticize him when he fails to fulfill campaign promises ( the wall), and you criticize him when he exactly follows through on promises ( bringing troops home).

the gop leadership is also beyond thrilled with the judges he’s appointing. they aren't looking to show him the door.

id love to know where you get your news from.

you think more than 2-3 gop
senators will vote to convict, based on what we know right now? really?
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scottw 10-31-2019 07:21 AM

I heard democrat debbie dingbat state that they were not voting on impeachment today but they were voting to follow the facts...she also insisted that all of the testimony to date has been conducted in a classified setting....

these people are laughable....:rotflmao:

RIROCKHOUND 10-31-2019 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1178324)
she also insisted that all of the testimony to date has been conducted in a classified setting....

these people are laughable....:rotflmao:

Whats laughable about this? It seems like it has been done properly, until the GOP wingnuts decided to storm the secure room with their cellphones...

scottw 10-31-2019 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1178331)
Whats laughable about this? It seems like it has been done properly, until the GOP wingnuts decided to storm the secure room with their cellphones...

so all of the leaked classified testimony came from the GOP wingnuts on their secure cell phones?

RIROCKHOUND 10-31-2019 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1178335)
so all of the leaked classified testimony came from the GOP wingnuts on their secure cell phones?

It's coming from 'sources', no different than during Bengahzi, Clinton impeachment, probably during Nixon. Most of the real info released so far have been the opening statements, not the testimony.

The republicans are running around trying to muddy the waters because they know what is being said behind closed doors in that testimony is not good for Trump et al.

We have him on record up and down stating the transcript is exact, and know there are multi witnesses, and I think Vindman is pretty credible, waiting for Bolton, that it was doctored to remove damaging phrases and context from the transcript to downplay 'Rudy's drug deal'

Sea Dangles 10-31-2019 08:10 AM

Oh no, I hope it’s nothing serious. 🙈
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scottw 10-31-2019 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1178337)

We have him on record up and down stating the transcript is exact

I think what he's said is the the call was "perfect"...in terms of getting the ball rolling exposing all of this democrat wrongdoing...it was!

RIROCKHOUND 10-31-2019 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1178341)
I think what he's said is the the call was "perfect"...in terms of getting the ball rolling exposing all of this democrat wrongdoing...it was!

No.. his quote is this:
""I had a transcript done by very, very talented people -- word for word, comma for comma," said Trump at one point in that early October news conference. "Done by people that do it for a living. We had an exact transcript." Later, he added that the document was "an exact transcript of my call, done by very talented people that do this -- exact, word for word."

Got Stripers 10-31-2019 08:33 AM

You must be kidding, Trump doesn't lie, if he says it's word for word it's the truth.

Pete F. 10-31-2019 10:18 AM

A few facts to keep handy in the face of intellectually dishonest GOP arguments today.

1. Impeachment of a President is not the process of undoing a previous election. It is the process whereby Congress indicts a President for wrongdoing while in office.
2. Though a quid pro quo is obvious, none is needed.

The drafters of the impeachment clause said so.

Madison was worried about the perfidy of a President, or deceit. He worried a President would wrongly work with a foreign power.

Edmund Randolph was concerned a President would seek to profit from the office, would seek emoluments from the presidency.

George Mason was concerned a President would undermine an investigation into himself, or might interfere with the work and duty of electors.

3. The whistleblower testimony is not needed.

Trump confessed to impeachable activity through release of the call notes.

Mulvaney corroborated it with his presser.

Bill Taylor confirmed it factually.

Lt. Col. Vindman contextualized it all as undermining US national security.

Eisenberg hid the transcript in an ultra secure server, showing consciousness of guilt, obstructing justice and abusing power.
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wdmso 10-31-2019 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1178353)
A few facts to keep handy in the face of intellectually dishonest GOP arguments today.

1. Impeachment of a President is not the process of undoing a previous election. It is the process whereby Congress indicts a President for wrongdoing while in office.
2. Though a quid pro quo is obvious, none is needed.

The drafters of the impeachment clause said so.

Madison was worried about the perfidy of a President, or deceit. He worried a President would wrongly work with a foreign power.

Edmund Randolph was concerned a President would seek to profit from the office, would seek emoluments from the presidency.

George Mason was concerned a President would undermine an investigation into himself, or might interfere with the work and duty of electors.

3. The whistleblower testimony is not needed.

Trump confessed to impeachable activity through release of the call notes.

Mulvaney corroborated it with his presser.

Bill Taylor confirmed it factually.

Lt. Col. Vindman contextualized it all as undermining US national security.

Eisenberg hid the transcript in an ultra secure server, showing consciousness of guilt, obstructing justice and abusing power.
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And clinton got a blow job and lied under oath. This outraged Republicans

Yet Trumps behavior the use of executive privilege the refusal of congressional subpoenas by his people . The list is endless..

Why doesn't it bother his supporter that Trump wont go under oath.

Simple.. party of country .. the next evolution in Trumps party..
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Sea Dangles 10-31-2019 11:17 AM

Clearly the greatest president of our lifetime
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Pete F. 10-31-2019 11:33 AM

Jackie Spier

Devin Nunes calling the Intelligence Committee’s fact-finding mission a cult is despicable. I know about cults. Cults are led by maniacal narcissists who expect complete adoration and relinquishment of independent thought. I suggest Mr. Nunes look elsewhere.
10:21 AM · Oct 31, 2019·Twitter for iPhone

In 1978, Speier was shot five times as a congressional staffer trying to save people from the cult at Jonestown. She survived after being left for dead on airstrip for 22 hours. Speier almost never talks about the experience, so this is a real rebuke of Nunes.

Perhaps you can think of another maniacal narcissist

scottw 10-31-2019 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1178374)
Jackie Spier

Devin Nunes calling the Intelligence Committee’s fact-finding mission a cult is despicable. I know about cults. Cults are led by maniacal narcissists who expect complete adoration and relinquishment of independent thought. I suggest Mr. Nunes look elsewhere.
10:21 AM · Oct 31, 2019·Twitter for iPhone

In 1978, Speier was shot five times as a congressional staffer trying to save people from the cult at Jonestown. She survived after being left for dead on airstrip for 22 hours. Speier almost never talks about the experience, so this is a real rebuke of Nunes.

Perhaps you can think of another maniacal narcissist

you act like a cult member

scottw 10-31-2019 11:51 AM

Trump Campaign Holds ‘Witch Hunt’ Halloween Party in Pennsylvania

:hihi:

Pete F. 10-31-2019 12:14 PM

Trump cared about corruption in Ukraine like Bonnie & Clyde cared about the FDIC - as a source of financial opportunity. His jailed funders were working with his attorney to replace the directors of the state gas company with themselves.
Trump didn’t see Ukraine as the one country he would push to become less corrupt. Instead, he saw it as a weak, dependent country he could leverage for his own self-interest, political and financial.

ReelinRod 10-31-2019 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1178353)
A few facts to keep handy in the face of intellectually dishonest GOP arguments today.

1. Impeachment of a President is not the process of undoing a previous election. It is the process whereby Congress indicts a President for wrongdoing while in office.
2. Though a quid pro quo is obvious, none is needed.

The drafters of the impeachment clause said so.

Madison was worried about the perfidy of a President, or deceit. He worried a President would wrongly work with a foreign power.

Edmund Randolph was concerned a President would seek to profit from the office, would seek emoluments from the presidency.

George Mason was concerned a President would undermine an investigation into himself, or might interfere with the work and duty of electors.

3. The whistleblower testimony is not needed.

Trump confessed to impeachable activity through release of the call notes.

Mulvaney corroborated it with his presser.

Bill Taylor confirmed it factually.

Lt. Col. Vindman contextualized it all as undermining US national security.

Eisenberg hid the transcript in an ultra secure server, showing consciousness of guilt, obstructing justice and abusing power.
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Save all that and print it out and wave it at the TV on January 20th, 2021 as you watch Trump's second inauguration.

scottw 10-31-2019 12:25 PM

it will be fun watching trump get 4 more years and many democrats getting prison time for seditious and criminal behavior

scottw 10-31-2019 02:32 PM

oh snap...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/latest...-ukraine-call/

Pete F. 10-31-2019 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1178406)

oh snap

But other parts of Morrison’s opening statement did seem to bolster the idea that Trump was applying a pressure campaign on the Ukrainians through a non-official channel. Morrison noted that his predecessor, former national security official Fiona Hill, had told him that Sondland and the president’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani "were trying to get President Zelensky to reopen a Ukrainian investigation into Burisma.” Morrison went on to say that “At the time, I did not know what Burisma was or what the investigation entailed.”

“I did not understand why Ambassador Sondland would be involved in Ukraine policy,” he added.

scottw 10-31-2019 03:34 PM

so?

wdmso 11-01-2019 07:30 AM

Asking for quid pro quo is illegal. Collision is illegal
Hiring a hitman illegal
Yelling fire in a theater illegal

No of these crimes require completion to be found guilty of a crime

Unless your a Republican the laws meaning and intent magically change.
To it was not completed so there can be no quid pro quo..
Yet if your name is Biden your guilty of corruption with no evidence no due process . All in attempt to deflect Trumps behavior a destroy any one who stands against him to include a decorated veteran Who just confirmed what we already know.
Republicans demanding there left out of the proceedings. when they are in the room , claim its unfair as it follows past hearings .. Just shows their willingness to lie present alternative facts so as not to upset the Dear leader and his worshipers
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scottw 11-01-2019 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1178448)

Yet if your name is Biden your guilty of corruption with no evidence

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:rotflmao:

scottw 11-01-2019 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1178448)

a decorated veteran Who just confirmed what we already know.


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that info was disputed yesterday....try to keep up

scottw 11-01-2019 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1178448)

Unless your a Republican the laws meaning and intent magically change.

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there were actually a couple of dems that voted yesterday that would disagree with you

scottw 11-01-2019 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1178448)

Collision is illegal


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if this is true, lots of democrats, media members and deep state hacks should/will be parading to prison :cheers:

Pete F. 11-01-2019 07:59 AM

Does that mean if the Dems can get a witness to say “the President committed impeachable offenses” then Trump is out because that’s basically your argument at this point. Try and keep up

The call is about 1% of the issue. Don’t lose sight of that, the Trumplicans will want you to. It’s ALL the pressure — by Rudy, Sondland, etc. for months and months. It’s Mulvaney. It’s the withholding of the $. It’s the firing of the Ambassador. It’s all of it. It’s all part of the quid pro quo aka conspiracy.
And: the issue IS NOT whether Ukraine felt “pressured” (although clearly they did). A politician can be guilty of attempted bribery by trying to bribe an undercover FBI agent who of course could never feel actually pressured. The intent that matters of the BRIBER not the BRIBEE.
And: Start to focus on the fact that Mitch McConnell kept asking the White House why the aid to Ukraine was being withheld and Mitch McConnell said that the White House would not tell him. Ummmmm ... if it was being withheld for a legit reason ... um ... why wouldn't they tell him?


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