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spence 01-12-2020 12:18 PM

Yawn
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scottw 01-12-2020 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1183759)

Your ego is too delicate.

he's one of the more fragile snowflakes around here:hihi:

The Dad Fisherman 01-12-2020 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1183755)
His link backed up my statement.
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No it didn’t.

It proved your statement was......wait for it......WRONG!
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Jim in CT 01-12-2020 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1183762)
Yawn
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chuckle.
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spence 01-13-2020 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1183765)
No it didn’t.

It proved your statement was......wait for it......WRONG!
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Let’s work on reading comprehension for 2020
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The Dad Fisherman 01-13-2020 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1183720)
I haven't seen any Dems laying the blame directly on Trump,

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1183735)
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jacki...b6da971d13f559

“If what is being projected is true, this is yet another example of collateral damage from the actions that have been taken in a provocative way by the president of the United States,” Speier said.
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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1183785)
Let’s work on reading comprehension for 2020
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Let's work on accepting our mistakes and becoming a better person in 20/20


Rep. Jackie Speier Lays Blame For Iran Passenger Jet Downing On Donald Trump

Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.) on Thursday suggested President Donald Trump was in part to blame for Iran’s suspected mistaken downing of a Ukraine International Airlines passenger plane during hostilities with the U.S.

Speier, who sits on the House Intelligence Committee, told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer she’d been briefed on the crash, which killed all 176 aboard, but was “not at liberty to say” whether Iran mistakenly believed the aircraft was a U.S. military plane. The Boeing jet crashed soon after taking off from Tehran’s airport.

“If what is being projected is true, this is yet another example of collateral damage from the actions that have been taken in a provocative way by the president of the United States(That's Trump, in case you missed it),” Speier (see the big "D" next to her name, that means democrat) said.

She also lambasted Trump’s “continued saber-rattling,” called for the situation with Iran to be “de-escalated” and for Trump to return to the negotiating table.

Tensions flared last week following the U.S. assassination of top Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani. Iran responded with missile strikes on two Iraqi bases housing U.S. soldiers. No casualties were reported.

Hours later, the passenger jet crashed. U.S., Canadian and British officials say they have intelligence that Iranian missiles, probably fired by mistake, brought down the airliner.

“Iran has been a bad actor. Soleimani was a bad actor,” Speier acknowledged.

“But there are many people in that region and around the world who are bad actors,” she said. “We have to find a way to live together and attempt to move towards peace.”

spence 01-13-2020 06:12 AM

That’s not laying direct blame, it’s an observation that without Trump’s significant escalation the wheels wouldn’t have been in motion. It in no way exonerates Iran.

Keep digging.
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scottw 01-13-2020 06:40 AM

every time I think the leftists have reached peak stupid...they soar to new heights

Jim in CT 01-13-2020 06:46 AM

spence, what about the Wright Brothers, they're the ones who invented the airplane, are you and your fellow snowflakes going to let them off the hook?

Maybe they were democrats, because if they were republicans, you’d be throwing them under the bus too.

You’re humiliating yourself and getting bitch slapped even by TDF, one of the most easygoing and non partisan people here.
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Jim in CT 01-13-2020 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1183789)
every time I think the leftists have reached peak stupid...they soar to new heights

why do you think their last legions of support are Hollywood and academia?
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Jim in CT 01-13-2020 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1183786)

“But there are many people in that region and around the world who are bad actors,” she said. “We have to find a way to live together and attempt to move towards peace.”

My god, what an idea! How come
no one has ever tried that before with these people?!

We did move towards peace. You can’t achieve peace when terrorists and mass murderers are roaming free, can you?

I also see there are Iranians in the streets, protesting the incompetence of leadership for shooting down the jet. Another political victory. May God be with those poor people.


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spence 01-13-2020 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1183790)
You’re humiliating yourself and getting bitch slapped even by TDF, one of the most easygoing and non partisan people here.
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2 for 1 special on reading comprehension classes this year, I’ll send you the coupon :jester:
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Jim in CT 01-13-2020 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1183793)
2 for 1 special on reading comprehension classes this year, I’ll send you the coupon :jester:
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What are you afraid would
happen, exactly, if you conceded that democrats have been a wee bit quick to blame Trump for some
things? What exactly, are you afraid would happen if you did that?
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Sea Dangles 01-13-2020 07:14 AM

At this point I can’t help but feel bad for poor Jeff. I am sure he means well but it is obvious that the saber rattling has impacted his life negatively. He will never accept blame because that is simply how he was raised. It is good to be stubborn and stick to your guns when you are right. Unfortunately,he gets proven wrong consistently and simply can’t come to terms with his failings. Let’s hope he raises his children to be honest so this cycle can broken.
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Jim in CT 01-13-2020 07:31 AM

here Spence, I’ll show you, I’ll start off...

I think it’s wrong for people
on the right to say that Iran bought the missiles it fired at us, with the cash Obama sent them. We don’t know that’s true, and shouldn’t be saying so to score cheap political points.

There. I said it. Nothing bad happened to me!

My side isn’t right every single time, and i have news for you, neither is yours. And that’s ok.

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The Dad Fisherman 01-13-2020 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1183788)
Keep digging.
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Me??? You’re the one flailing the shovel and digging yourself a hole.

In the end though, you’re still Wrong, not right, mistaken, incorrect, inaccurate, misguided, or whatever other word you’d like to insert that means wrong.

You’re sitting in the back seat of the short bus on your way to common sense school.
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Jim in CT 01-13-2020 09:09 AM

TDF, next he’ll tell you that you took that story out of
context. Because
not only was the democratic congresswoman from California correct, but she was brilliant.
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The Dad Fisherman 01-13-2020 11:08 AM

Or the classic “it’s not what she said, it’s what she didn’t say” :hihi:
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Jim in CT 01-13-2020 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1183806)
Or the classic “it’s not what she said, it’s what she didn’t say” :hihi:
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now you’re thinking like a liberal, boy-o.
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wdmso 01-14-2020 11:47 AM

State Department security officials weren't notified of 'imminent' threats to US embassies

republicans were outraged over bengiza being blamed on a movie , and held that even after the administration's dismissed that reason as incorrect

Yet now Republicans have no issue with the changing narrative coming out of the White House


And have no issues with these comments

“I think the president is making clear that the Democrats have been parroting Iranian talking points and almost taking the side of terrorists and those who were out to kill the Americans,” Stephanie Grisham said on Fox News. “I think the President was making the point that the Democrats seem to hate him so much that they’re willing to be on the side of countries and leadership of countries who want to kill Americans.


Grisham has yet to hold a single briefing since taking the role of President Donald Trump's chief spokeswoman in July, deciding instead to participate in interviews with friendly conservative television outlets like Fox News and One America News Network

And anyone who thinks this is acceptable is a sell out and is all in with Trump 1st country 2nd mentality

PaulS 01-14-2020 01:25 PM

Grisham - another POS in this administration. Sounds like Collins.

Is there anyone in this admin. with any decency?

Sea Dangles 01-14-2020 02:10 PM

Trump was beaming last night before the national championship game. He seems to have had a solid approval rating from all in attendance. I hope he doesn’t get too carried away with the camera time.
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Jim in CT 01-14-2020 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1183864)
Grisham - another POS in this administration. Sounds like Collins.

Is there anyone in this admin. with any decency?

Not a single one. What's Ben Carson's flaw, is he a white supremacist?

PaulS 01-14-2020 04:58 PM

Isn't it pretty sad when the whole Administration can't be defended and individuals need to be pointed out.
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Sea Dangles 01-14-2020 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1183864)
Grisham - another POS in this administration. Sounds like Collins.

Is there anyone in this admin. with any decency?

Singling out
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Jim in CT 01-14-2020 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1183881)
Isn't it pretty sad when the whole Administration can't be defended and individuals need to be pointed out.
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not as funny as when you act like
you didn’t ask about individuals.

“Is there anyone in this admin with any decency?”

You want more? How about Pence?


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PaulS 01-14-2020 10:02 PM

Pence lied and said Iran had a part in 9/11. He also said Congress couldn't be told about certain things related to the assassination because it would compromise sources as if Congress can't be trusted. This Administration is at Dispicable as they come.
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Jim in CT 01-14-2020 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1183892)
Pence lied and said Iran had a part in 9/11. He also said Congress couldn't be told about certain things related to the assassination because it would compromise sources as if Congress can't be trusted. This Administration is at Dispicable as they come.
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you might have to get used to them.
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detbuch 01-15-2020 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1183892)
Pence lied and said Iran had a part in 9/11. He also said Congress couldn't be told about certain things related to the assassination because it would compromise sources as if Congress can't be trusted. This Administration is at Dispicable as they come.
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Congress is not decent.

scottw 01-15-2020 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1183892)

Pence lied

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is Pence at 10,000 lies or 15,000 lies....

inconsolable whining is not interesting commentary......





"Iran “facilitated” the movement of al Qaeda terrorists through its country, including September 11, 2001 attackers and for years was a critical channel for money and arms, according to the 9-11 commission report and internal Osama bin Laden documents.

Experts say the late Qassem Soleimani surely knew of and directed the terror partnership since he has headed since 1998 Iran’s Quds Force. It is a U.S.-designated terrorist organization and an arm of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps which dominates Iranian society. On Jan. 3, Maj. Gen. Soleimani was killed in Baghdad by a U.S. drone missile attack on his car on orders of President Trump.

“There is strong evidence that Iran facilitated the transit of al Qaeda members into and out of Afghanistan before 9/11, and that some of these were future 9/11 hijackers,” said the commission, known formally as The National Commission on Terror Attacks Upon the United States."

PaulS 01-15-2020 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1183893)
you might have to get used to them.
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Maybe - if the economy continues to be good they have a good chance.

wdmso 01-15-2020 08:45 AM

Not one of the faithful objected to her statement.. not suprised
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Sea Dangles 01-15-2020 09:53 AM

🍔
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Jim in CT 01-15-2020 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1183905)
Not one of the faithful objected to her statement.. not suprised
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which statement are you referring to, exactly?
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wdmso 01-15-2020 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1183914)
which statement are you referring to, exactly?
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I think the president is making clear that the Democrats have been parroting Iranian talking points and almost taking the side of terrorists and those who were out to kill the Americans,” Stephanie Grisham said on Fox News. “I think the President was making the point that the Democrats seem to hate him so much that they’re willing to be on the side of countries and leadership of countries who want to kill Americans.

Jim in CT 01-15-2020 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1183921)
I think the president is making clear that the Democrats have been parroting Iranian talking points and almost taking the side of terrorists and those who were out to kill the Americans,” Stephanie Grisham said on Fox News. “I think the President was making the point that the Democrats seem to hate him so much that they’re willing to be on the side of countries and leadership of countries who want to kill Americans.

I have zero problem with that.

AP headline - “Iranian General Killed i’m US Strike, Then Innocents Suffer.”

that was the associated press’ headline.

I completely agree that his opponents hate him so much, that they’re willing to side with anyone who opposes him or can make him look bad. That’s obviously true.
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wdmso 01-15-2020 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1183925)
I have zero problem with that.

AP headline - “Iranian General Killed i’m US Strike, Then Innocents Suffer.”

that was the associated press’ headline.

I completely agree that his opponents hate him so much, that they’re willing to side with anyone who opposes him or can make him look bad. That’s obviously true.
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A news headline has nothing to do with her quote


I am surprised. You would support attacking other Americans as un American for not bending the knee to Trump .. from his press secretary. You do understand if it's from her it's from Trump... calling anyone we who disagrees with him that they love the enemy and are traitors what's next making people disappear or arrested? Is that when it will have gone to far


Sorry doesn't get any more un American than openly supporting such a statement.. From the POTUS

Yet Clinton's use of the word deplorables still bugs you ,

Man over party and party over country

Sea Dangles 01-15-2020 04:39 PM

Is disagreeing with somebody now called attacking somebody?
Snowflake land seems to be expanding their territory here.
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Jim in CT 01-15-2020 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1183927)
A news headline has nothing to do with her quote


I am surprised. You would support attacking other Americans as un American for not bending the knee to Trump .. from his press secretary. You do understand if it's from her it's from Trump... calling anyone we who disagrees with him that they love the enemy and are traitors what's next making people disappear or arrested? Is that when it will have gone to far


Sorry doesn't get any more un American than openly supporting such a statement.. From the POTUS

Yet Clinton's use of the word deplorables still bugs you ,

Man over party and party over country

you lie, and lie, and lie. i don’t expect anyone to support Trump. I expect people who should
know enough, to be FAIR. Fair means using honest criticism when he deserves it, and guess what, praising him when he deserves it. The democrats and the media can’t bring themselves to do it. neither can the liberals here.

Anyway, what would it take, for you to be honest enough to say i expect accurate fairness, not blind support? I don’t expect everyone to be sean hannity.
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