Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1185626)

Lie #9

“In the Senate, we have confirmed a record number of 187 new federal judges.”

It’s not a record. Floridaman has a long way to go to have appointed the most federal judges. Reagan has the record, with 383, followed by Bill Clinton with 378 and then Obama with 329. Through Jan. 18, 2020, 187 judges nominated by Floridaman have been confirmed by the Senate.

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1185627)

Lie #10

“Three years ago, the barbarians of ISIS held over 20,000 square miles of territory in Iraq and Syria. Today, the ISIS territorial caliphate has been 100 percent destroyed, and the founder and leader of ISIS — the bloodthirsty killer known as Al‑Baghdadi — is dead!”

The U.S. military warned, in a report issued the day Trump spoke, that ISIS remained a dangerous threat and the killing of Baghdadi did not degrade the group’s capabilities. “USCENTCOM told the DoD OIG [Office of the Inspector General] that following the death of ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the group’s capabilities in Syria remained the same,” the report said. “USCENTCOM said that ISIS remained cohesive, with an intact command and control structure, urban clandestine networks, and an insurgent presence in much of rural Syria.”

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1185663)

You certainly love Reality TV, trouble is it's not real for more than that moment in the sun.

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1185682)

You just keep believing in what Floridaman claims, he might deserve a new name soon with some of his policies "Orange Obama"

Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1185662)

Math and statistics don't lie and that is what makes so many of Trumps claims flat out wrong, lies, grossly inaccurate or as you are fond of saying on almost any debate involving a questionable statement from Trump; it's just a matter of opinion. Funny thing about math 2+2 is always going to be 4.

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1185685)

Trump turned the SOTU address into a game/reality TV show, complete with prizes. I'm surprised that he didn't throw loaves of bread (or paper towel rolls) out to his audience.

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1185684)

You also deserve a new name...”bitchslapped boy”.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1185662)

Math and statistics don't lie and that is what makes so many of Trumps claims flat out wrong, lies, grossly inaccurate or as you are fond of saying on almost any debate involving a questionable statement from Trump; it's just a matter of opinion. Funny thing about math 2+2 is always going to be 4.

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1185663)

First Trump lied & said, "No casualties."

Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1185686)

Statistics, as Mark Twain said, are pliable. Pete F demonstrated that in the 10 "lies."

I suspect the 15,000 lies Trump has supposedly told are a result of much plying--a mish-mash concoction of twisted stats, Trump's errors, mistakes, opinions, exaggerations . . . I also suspect that if anyone was frivolous enough to search the number of such "lies" that Schumer, Pelosi, Schiff, Obama, CNN, MSNBC, Chris Matthews, Don Lemon, Any Cuomo, etc., applying the same standard of what is a lie, that all of those folks and entities, and just about any other politician, would have told many thousands of such "lies."

Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1185691)

Actually, as you surely must know, at the time he said "no casualties" he was stating was told to him by our military. And at that time there was no evidence of trauma. So he did not lie.

But, of course, it is necessary for your narrative to lie about it.

Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1185692)

Nobody spins as good as you :jump:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1185693)

Now tell us how he didn't know Stormy or that Cohen was paying her off and that the Access Hollywood tape was fake.

Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1185696)

Why? I'm satisfied with pointing out that your list of 10 Trump lies was a lie--I would say that your calling them lies was wrong, but since you often call Trump's mistakes lies, I think it is fair to apply your standard to you.

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1185697)

As usual your only rebuttal was conjecture, supposition and inference.
AKA spin

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1185689)

Coming from the master of the immature insult?

It took the height deprived imbecile a day to decide that if he was not a moron, I must have insulted his mother and then his head exploded.
And even then he only got insulted because the Trumplicans egged him on.
He's definitely sitting in the low chair watching the world whiz by over his head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWfR...has_verified=1

Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1185694)

My spin is so good that you are not able to show how it is wrong.

Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1185710)

Pete might engage you in one of your circular debates because he has either not learned the spin away brings you back to the beginning where black and white are shades of gray and mere opinions. I have learned it’s pointless because it just goes on until either the person you debate with gets tired of the game or it is back to square one. The beauty of a game is you can choose not to play, but spin on brother.

Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1185715)

Good try, but you can’t suck me in.