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Jim in CT 02-26-2020 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1186821)
It is not a lie. If you can't understand the statement, no one can help you.

show me then, where in the charges it states he was covering for the president. that’s what she said he was convicted of.
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PaulS 02-26-2020 07:54 AM

so you think "covering" for someone is a crime? Or do you think the judge thinks "covering" is a crime and didn't know what the charges were?

Use your critical thinking like you do every day at work.

Jim in CT 02-26-2020 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1186825)
so you think "covering" for someone is a crime? Or do you think the judge thinks "covering" is a crime and didn't know what the charges were?

Use your critical thinking like you do every day at work.

no, the judge somehow thinks it’s a crime. SHE said Stone was convicted of covering for the president. Sounds like you are agreeing with me, that he was not convicted of any such thing.
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Jim in CT 02-26-2020 08:38 AM

Paul, judge Jackson said stone “was prosecuted for covering up for the president.”

The judge said that, not me. So when you attack that statement for being absurd ( which it is), you’re not attacking me as you thought you were. you were attacking the judge.

So now that you know judge Jackson said it, do you still feel it’s a stupid statement? Or is it brilliant, now that a democrat said it.
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spence 02-26-2020 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1186831)
no, the judge somehow thinks it’s a crime. SHE said Stone was convicted of covering for the president. Sounds like you are agreeing with me, that he was not convicted of any such thing.
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No she said he was prosecuted for covering up for the president, that’s exactly why he was charged with lying, witness tampering and obstruction. You’re making stuff up again Jim, it’s getting old.
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PaulS 02-26-2020 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1186831)
no, the judge somehow thinks it’s a crime. SHE said Stone was convicted of covering for the president. Sounds like you are agreeing with me, that he was not convicted of any such thing.
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correct - he was not, but I'm smart enough to understand that she meant Stone was convicted for trying to cover up for the Pres. by lying, tampering/threatening and obstructing the investigation .

scottw 02-26-2020 08:48 AM

Jim...they can't even agree...let them argue amongst themselves :laugha:

Jim in CT 02-26-2020 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1186837)
Jim...they can't even agree...let them argue amongst themselves :laugha:

they’re denying what she said was true, but can’t bring themselves to admit she was wrong, because she’s an obama appointee. TDS in all its glory.
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wdmso 02-27-2020 01:46 PM

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Six-year-old girl arrested at Florida school walked out in flex cuffs


But,but but roger stone (poor old man)

The Dad Fisherman 02-27-2020 03:12 PM

The chick had it coming
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Jim in CT 02-27-2020 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1186907)
Six-year-old girl arrested at Florida school walked out in flex cuffs


But,but but roger stone (poor old man)

what in god’s name does this have to do with Stone?
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wdmso 02-28-2020 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1186914)
what in god’s name does this have to do with Stone?
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Seal team six ring a bell

Jim in CT 02-28-2020 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1186935)
Seal team six ring a bell

oh my yes, because one unarmed
auxiliary police officer, is the same as the heavily armed tactical team that went and hit Stone. you can’t have a more timid response than a single reserve officer.

Jeez...
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Pete F. 02-28-2020 10:37 AM

Perhaps you think the FBI should take more chances with their lives?
Here is the view of a guy who has been in that situation.

Was the FBI’s show of force too heavy-handed, as has been alleged? Absolutely not.

Lest you believe Mueller's office or the Justice Department decides how many agents are deployed for an arrest, and what type of hardware they’re armed with, you’re mistaken. The FBI makes that call. Prosecutors draft indictments and litigate in court on behalf of The People. They leave the sweet science of apprehension tactics and techniques to other professionals.

Having been involved in the planning and execution of hundreds of early morning arrests like this one, nothing appeared to be “irregular.” This was a “knock and announce” warrant service, not to be confused with a “no knock” (exigent circumstances) arrest warrant. FBI special agents were prepared to employ mechanical breaching tools to enter Stone's home if the occupant delayed their passage.

Stone was not afforded an opportunity for a self-surrender, negotiated through his attorney, because there were concerns he may have been a flight risk (Stone insists he doesn’t own a passport) or that he may have destroyed evidence had there been warning of the coming indictment. Therefore, the FBI would have been directed to take Stone into custody. The means and methods are then left to the FBI.

Some have speculated it was overkill treatment of an elderly man, eradicating the proverbial gnat with a hammer. But some of the most dangerous encounters I experienced in my 25-year FBI career didn’t necessarily come when apprehending career street criminals or violent gang members. It was often the unassuming, benign in appearance, white-collar fraudster, corrupt politician, or senior church member infected by pedophilia. These lawbreakers and miscreants weren’t adorned with tattoos or menacing glowers. But they had a lot to lose, and in their moment of reckoning, sufficiently panicked, they often acted irrationally — choosing to hurt themselves or attack the (blessedly) armed instruments of the state sent to apprehend them.

To those pearl-clutchers raising alarms about “armed FBI agents,” you must be made aware that FBI agents were granted arrest powers and authority to carry firearms back when Congress passed a series of anti-crime legislation back in the summer of 1934, precipitated by an agent’s murder during the Kansas City Massacre of 1933.

That’s why “armed FBI agent” is such a foolish redundancy. As far as Stone’s inaccurate, hyperbolic characterization of agents armed with “grenades,” it deserves no response.

So spare me the “they didn’t need that many people for one arrest” proselytizing. You don’t know that of which you speak. In the FBI, we tend to defuse situations by removing the fight-or-flight inclination, via our overwhelming presence. To arrest one, we bring 10. For 10, we’ll bring 100. And yet, we still have a wall loaded with photos of our service martyrs. None of them expected to lose their life on that particular day.

Sea Dangles 02-28-2020 10:44 AM

Thank you for sharing his words Bitchslappedboy
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PaulS 02-28-2020 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1186951)
Thank you for sharing his words Bitchslappedboy
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What a vile person you are.

Pete F. 02-28-2020 10:55 AM

I just ignore Dingleberry because he's the prime example of the old adage that, The emptier the head, the louder the mouth.

Sea Dangles 02-28-2020 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1186953)
What a vile person you are.

I can’t wait to take you fishing with my other kids.
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Pete F. 07-10-2020 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1186629)
Stone's buddy can't pardon him because that makes the Fifth Amendment moot.
So will he commute his sentence is the question.

In Donald Trump's America, Roger Stone is rewarded for lying and Lt. Col. Vindman is punished for telling the truth.
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Sea Dangles 07-10-2020 10:25 PM

Thank You for sharing bsb

Pete F. 07-10-2020 10:31 PM

Boat still running?
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Pete F. 07-10-2020 10:34 PM

Time to put Roger Stone in the grand jury to find out what he knows about Trump but would not tell. Commutation can’t stop that.
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Pete F. 07-10-2020 10:42 PM

The commutation happened because Stone clearly could have implicated Trump & didn’t & has made very clear that he wasn’t doing so in order to get this benefit.
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Sea Dangles 07-11-2020 05:39 AM

The nation is the winner here.

scottw 07-11-2020 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1196728)
Time to put Roger Stone in the grand jury to find out what he knows about Trump but would not tell. Commutation can’t stop that.
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I bet it's a "bombshell" :scream:

nightfighter 07-11-2020 07:13 AM

Totally disgusted.... Officially on the vote him out bandwagon. Don't even care who is running against. Though I would prefer to have a good decent alternative.

Nebe 07-11-2020 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1196734)
Totally disgusted.... Officially on the vote him out bandwagon. Don't even care who is running against. Though I would prefer to have a good decent alternative.

We might have Kanye 😂😂😂😂
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wdmso 07-11-2020 07:47 AM

Remember he is the law and order President..
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scottw 07-11-2020 07:59 AM

this has the snowflakes pretty frazzled...:uhuh:

Pete F. 07-11-2020 08:08 AM

"I think the prosecution [of Roger Stone] was righteous and I think the sentence that the judge ultimately gave was fair."
-- Attorney General Bill Barr, July 8, 2020
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nightfighter 07-11-2020 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1196739)
this has the snowflakes pretty frazzled...:uhuh:

No no no.... I am not a snowflake. I am not frazzled. I am an educated, free thinking, independent, who voted against Hillary, yet votes with a conscience. I never thought that Trump had a chance leading up to the convention. And here we are, three and a half years into it. He hasn't taken advantage of anything except taking care of his own personal agenda. And his loyal cronies. Woe be the loyal soldier who bows to the laws of the land, though... cough cough Cohen.... The two administrations his most resembles are Woodrow Wilson's and 1930s Germany.... Ponder that last one for a minute.
I am amazed at how many very intelligent, well read, educated people, many who I consider friends, can follow and support this man with such fervor..... His shortcomings and failures are to the detriment of the people of these United States. I would willingly follow a leader. But he clearly is not one.

spence 07-11-2020 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1196741)
No no no.... I am not a snowflake. I am not frazzled. I am an educated, free thinking, independent, who voted against Hillary, yet votes with a conscience. I never thought that Trump had a chance leading up to the convention. And here we are, three and a half years into it. He hasn't taken advantage of anything except taking care of his own personal agenda. And his loyal cronies. Woe be the loyal soldier who bows to the laws of the land, though... cough cough Cohen.... The two administrations his most resembles are Woodrow Wilson's and 1930s Germany.... Ponder that last one for a minute.
I am amazed at how many very intelligent, well read, educated people, many who I consider friends, can follow and support this man with such fervor..... His shortcomings and failures are to the detriment of the people of these United States. I would willingly follow a leader. But he clearly is not one.

All politics aside I’m baffled by his support. It’s frightening.
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nightfighter 07-11-2020 08:46 AM

Jeff, we agree on some common ground here.... My above stated opinions really have nothing to do with politics...

spence 07-11-2020 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1196744)
Jeff, we agree on some common ground here.... My above stated opinions really have nothing to do with politics...

There’s a reason so many lifelong republicans are getting behind Biden. It is because Trump and Trumpism is an existential threat to the Republic. I knew Trump would be bad but I didn’t think it would be this bad.
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spence 07-11-2020 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1196732)
I bet it's a "bombshell" :scream:

That Trump knew about the leaks, lied to the FBI about it and Stone lied to help cover it up then threatened to dish if he went to prison? That little tidbit?
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nightfighter 07-11-2020 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1196746)
There’s a reason so many lifelong republicans are getting behind Biden. It is because Trump and Trumpism is an existential threat to the Republic. I knew Trump would be bad but I didn’t think it would be this bad.
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I am not sure you could count me in the group "getting behind Biden." I think a better analogy is rooting for whoever the Yankees are playing.... I still cringe every time I see Joe speak, waiting for some health issue to appear live on camera.

spence 07-11-2020 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1196749)
I am not sure you could count me in the group "getting behind Biden." I think a better analogy is rooting for whoever the Yankees are playing.... I still cringe every time I see Joe speak, waiting for some health issue to appear live on camera.

But so many lifelong republicans are because they know just sitting this one out isn’t enough. The risks are too high.

Biden is a moderate and it’s increasingly looking like he’ll pick a moderate running mate. Sure the Dems are probably going to take the Senate also but hopefully the GOP can regroup and find some some rational footing.
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Nebe 07-11-2020 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1196742)
All politics aside I’m baffled by his support. It’s frightening.
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Look no further than the decisive tactics used by the nazi party to divide the Germans, frighten them into submission and then get behind their agenda of European domination. Had the Germans really known what was really going on, I think it’s plainly obvious that they would have pulled the rug out from underneath hitler.


Critical thinking is dead in this country. Everyone worships their favorite pundit on cable news that spouts the diarrhea that they want to hear and this just validates their beliefs.
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scottw 07-11-2020 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1196747)
That Trump knew about the leaks, lied to the FBI about it and Stone lied to help cover it up then threatened to dish if he went to prison? That little tidbit?
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google..."bombshell allegations trump"...it's pretty funny

scottw 07-11-2020 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1196752)


Critical thinking is dead in this country. Everyone worships their favorite pundit on cable news that spouts the diarrhea that they want to hear and this just validates their beliefs.

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I don't have a favorite pundit or watch cable news but I still have a thing for AOC

:claps:


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