Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1189113)

Nearly two-thirds of Americans believe that Donald Trump committed crimes before he became president, according to a new Quinnipiac poll conducted after Trump’s former lawyer Michael Cohen testified to Congress.

Among those surveyed, 64 percent believe that the president committed crimes before he was elected, with 24 percent saying they don’t think he did.

Those polled were split on whether they believe Trump has committed crimes while in office: According to the poll, 45 percent believe the president has, while 43 percent say he hasn’t.

Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1189109)

If a large portion of the population have the view that she committed some sort of crime, let's say, in the way she handled her emails, they are not holding an extreme view, that is, not holding a view that is the furthest from what would be considered "the center," or not holding a view that is held by so few that it is an "extreme" outlier.

There are enough people who think she committed a crime, that to consider their view to be an extreme one seems to be at least erroneous, or, more underhandedly, might be considered a biased tactic to marginalize and dismiss them. And further labeling them beyond that as vitriolic, or haters, is demeaning them as well. It is a pretty shady way to have a discussion.

And if you're trying frame the argument as one can only believe that a crime has been committed when it is brought by "law enforcement" (whatever that means), then your attempt at thought control is closer than you know to that "authoritarian" form of government that you accuse others of.

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1189122)

Since when in America do we arrest people for crimes that in your words
" a large portion of the population have the view that she committed some sort of crime"

Since when did I say we did?

But all of law enforcement is unable to find any evidence of these imaginary crime and still have yet to arrest her..

Since when has it been considered extreme or hateful or vitriolic for people to believe that law enforcement didn't do its job as it should have? We've had powerful civil rights movements based on law enforcement not doing its job. And most Americans don't consider all of those movements to be extreme, or hateful, or vitriolic. Perhaps, by your logic, we should consider them so.

you're trying frame the argument as one can only believe that a crime has been committed when it is brought by "law enforcement" (whatever that means),

Wow thats an amazing statment

It's amazing at what you find amazing.

Ps Pete was using your logic against you.....
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