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Jim in CT 04-10-2020 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1190515)

Happened to me? You support a vile, lying person and try to justify it. He doesn't lie once or 2x but is compulsive liar and your morals seem to not mind.

Paul, who did you vote for in 2016? If you voted for hilary, I can make the same compelling case you make about Trump, that you supported a vile, lying person. And also a person who supports abortions in the 9th month for any reason, and open borders.

The choice in 2016 was between two scumbags. Both disgusting people.

Stop harping on the laughably absurd personal lifestyle. Talk policy. But you won't, because you can't win that discussion.

PaulS 04-10-2020 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1190529)
Paul, who did you vote for in 2016? If you voted for hilary, I can make the same compelling case you make about Trump, that you supported a vile, lying person. And also a person who supports abortions in the 9th month for any reason, and open borders.

The choice in 2016 was between two scumbags. Both disgusting people.

Stop harping on the laughably absurd personal lifestyle. Talk policy. But you won't, because you can't win that discussion.

I voted for Hillary. Her lies compared to Trump are nothing. He lied about the Corona and possibly caused more deaths.

I agree with the Repubs. that there should not be free and open borders and that Drs. shouldn't be able to kill a baby after it is born.

His policies suck. I disagree with what he has done on the environment, fuel standards, parks, etc.

Jim in CT 04-10-2020 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1190530)
I voted for Hillary. Her lies compared to Trump are nothing. He lied about the Corona and possibly caused more deaths.

I agree with the Repubs. that there should not be free and open borders and that Drs. shouldn't be able to kill a baby after it is born.

His policies suck. I disagree with what he has done on the environment, fuel standards, parks, etc.

Ahh, Hilary. She married a predator of women, she lied to protect him, and she slut-shamed his victims. So, using your logic, does that mean you can never speak to women's issues or women's rights?

"Drs. shouldn't be able to kill a baby after it is born. "

WOW, that's big of you. You are opposed to infanticide.

"His policies suck"

Tell that to the babies born thanks to him. One of the many, many reasons I like the air on my side a whole lot better.

Sea Dangles 04-10-2020 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1190528)
As I said, you are a vile scummy person. Such an internet tough guy.

So no sacrifice - what a clown you are.

Is it a wonder that I'm embarrassed for you.

I am rubber and you are glue.
Everything you say bounces off of me and sticks to you.
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PaulS 04-10-2020 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1190534)
I am rubber and you are glue.
Everything you say bounces off of me and sticks to you.
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No, not really bc you are a vile, scummy person.

Donate $50 so you won't look like an idiot after you try to call people out.

PaulS 04-10-2020 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1190533)
Ahh, Hilary. She married a predator of women, she lied to protect him, and she slut-shamed his victims. So, using your logic, does that mean you can never speak to women's issues or women's rights?

"Drs. shouldn't be able to kill a baby after it is born. "

WOW, that's big of you. You are opposed to infanticide.

"His policies suck"

Tell that to the babies born thanks to him. One of the many, many reasons I like the air on my side a whole lot better.

Ah the Republican mantra, love the fetus hate the baby. Didn't see any big Repub. revolt when Trump tries to cut benefits for the poor.

Jim in CT 04-10-2020 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1190538)
Ah the Republican mantra, love the fetus hate the baby. Didn't see any big Repub. revolt when Trump tries to cut benefits for the poor.

"the Republican mantra, love the fetus hate the baby"

This from the guy who said an hour ago, that democrats have such a loving view of babies, that they're OK with killing them after birth.

Paul, more lies. It's all you have. You and I have discussed the study which shows that conservatives donate more money and time to charity. What evidence can you provide, to suggest that Republicans hate babies? I'm all ears.

You've really, really come un-glued.

"Didn't see any big Repub. revolt when Trump tries to cut benefits for the poor"

I'm not sure what cuts you are referring to, but nether was there any kind of liberal revolt when Bill Clinton kicked millions off welfare and told them to get back to work. Which of course, is what they did.

You have zero logic or consistency to what you're saying, just flailing away.

PaulS 04-10-2020 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1190539)
"the Republican mantra, love the fetus hate the baby"

This from the guy who said an hour ago, that democrats have such a loving view of babies, that they're OK with killing them after birth.
Paul, more lies. It's all you have. You and I have discussed the study which shows that conservatives donate more money and time to charity. What evidence can you provide, to suggest that Republicans hate babies? I'm all ears.

You've really, really come un-glued.

Where did I say that about the babies? Or did you just lie again? I told you that they constantly try to cut benefits to the most vulnerable segment of the population - the poor. And the poor have babies which pay the brunt of it. Did you not remember those conversations or are lying again?


Conservatives donate money to their churches - isn't that a big part of their donations? How does the money you donate to paint your church benefit any poor person? Did you not remember those conversations or are lying again?

Jim in CT 04-10-2020 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1190540)
Where did I say that?

at 12:32, post 42.

PaulS 04-10-2020 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1190541)
at 12:32, post 42.


Isn't this what I said?

"I agree with the Repubs. that there should not be free and open borders and that Drs. shouldn't be able to kill a baby after it is born."

So where out of that do you get "This from the guy who said an hour ago, that democrats have such a loving view of babies, that they're OK with killing them after birth."

Jim in CT 04-10-2020 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1190542)
Isn't this what I said?

"I agree with the Repubs. that there should not be free and open borders and that Drs. shouldn't be able to kill a baby after it is born."

So where out of that do you get "This from the guy who said an hour ago, that democrats have such a loving view of babies, that they're OK with killing them after birth."

You were saying that's a point on which you agree with republicans, which common sense would suggest it's also a point on which you disagree with democrats. There are democrats who don't think the baba should be protected after its born. The GOP doesn't believe that, democrats do.

You're going to argue every fact which you don't happen to like?

Jim in CT 04-10-2020 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1190542)
Isn't this what I said?

"I agree with the Repubs. that there should not be free and open borders and that Drs. shouldn't be able to kill a baby after it is born."

So where out of that do you get "This from the guy who said an hour ago, that democrats have such a loving view of babies, that they're OK with killing them after birth."

I answered your questions. Kindly show us the evidence to support your claim that Republicans hate babies.

You sound like an 18 year-old sociology major at Wesleyan. Regurgitating absurd, laughable, liberal bumper stickers.

PaulS 04-10-2020 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1190543)
You were saying that's a point on which you agree with republicans, which common sense would suggest it's also a point on which you disagree with democrats. I didn't say that and I don't believe it so are you lying again?There are democrats who don't think the baba should be protected after its born. The GOP doesn't believe that, democrats do.and yet they have no problem cutting benefits that poor people use to provide for their babies. Using your logic, the Repub. must not care for the baby after it is born.

You're going to argue every fact which you don't happen to like?

No, I don't think the Dems. believe anyone should kill a baby after birth as the Repub. seem (you) to suggest.

Are you going to argue every fact which you don't happen to like?

PaulS 04-10-2020 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1190544)
I answered your questions. Kindly show us the evidence to support your claim that Republicans hate babies.

You sound like an 18 year-old sociology major at Wesleyan. Regurgitating absurd, laughable, liberal bumper stickers.

I just answered your question. They don't hate babies, they could care less about the poors babies.

You sound like an angry 18 year old from one of those lousy conservative schools like Liberty univ.

Regurgitating absurd, laughable, conservative bumper stickers.

Jim in CT 04-10-2020 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1190545)
No, I don't think the Dems. believe anyone should kill a baby after birth as the Repub. seem (you) to suggest.

Are you going to argue every fact which you don't happen to like?

Fine.

Now, what's your evidence that Republicans hate babies?

Jim in CT 04-10-2020 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1190546)

Regurgitating absurd, laughable, conservative bumper stickers.

Paul: Republicans hate babies.

Jim: The data suggests that conservatives are more generous and charitable than liberals. What's your evidence that republicans hate babies?

Paul: You're Regurgitating absurd, laughable, conservative bumper stickers.

You've lost your logic Paul, you don't respond to any questions, you just paste stupid, laughable talking points, and hurl baseless insults. You used to be a lot better than that.

PaulS 04-10-2020 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1190547)
Fine.

Now, what's your evidence that Republicans hate babies?

See post 53

PaulS 04-10-2020 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1190548)
Paul: Republicans hate babies.

Jim: The data suggests that conservatives are more generous and charitable than liberals. What's your evidence that republicans hate babies?

Paul: You're Regurgitating absurd, laughable, conservative bumper stickers.

You've lost your logic Paul, you don't respond to any questions, you just paste stupid, laughable talking points, and hurl baseless insults. You used to be a lot better than that.

Is that the way the discussion went or are you lying again?

The Dems want open borders or want to kill babies after birth isn't a absurd talking point? How many insults have you hurled in this thread? I don't think you used to be better than this.

Jim in CT 04-10-2020 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1190550)
Is that the way the discussion went or are you lying again?

The Dems want open borders or want to kill babies after birth isn't a absurd talking point? How many insults have you hurled in this thread? I don't think you used to be better than this.

democrats wanting an open border is not an absurd talking point. they don’t want it sealed.

you brought up killing babies after birth, if i misunderstood your point, i apologize. But the notion of allowing babies to whither and die after birth is gaining steam on the left, why is it so much more extreme than abortion in the 9th month? from a biological perspective, how
much different is the fully developed baby after it exits the womb?

for the fourth time, what’s your evidence that republicans hate babies?
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Jim in CT 04-10-2020 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1190550)
I don't think you used to be better than this.

i agree, i haven’t changed radically. That makes one of us. you’ve become another liberal=good, conservative=bad parrot.
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PaulS 04-10-2020 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1190552)
democrats wanting an open border is not an absurd talking point. they don’t want it sealed. yes, it is an absurd talking point that you are just parroting. Take down any barriers, open the crossing, etc. - that has never been a Dem. wish.

you brought up killing babies after birth, if i misunderstood your point, i apologize. But the notion of allowing babies to whither and die after birth is gaining steam on the left, why is it so much more extreme than abortion in the 9th month? from a biological perspective, how
much different is the fully developed baby after it exits the womb?

for the fourth time, what’s your evidence that republicans hate babies?
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I've pointed it out a few times. They could care less about poor babies and that is reflected in the budgets they always put forth that take funding away from social service funds which primarily benefit the poor and thus impacts the babies.

PaulS 04-10-2020 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1190554)
i agree, i haven’t changed radically. That makes one of us. you’ve become another liberal=good, conservative=bad parrot.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

I don't think all liberals or polices are good and I don't think all cons. are bad or the policies are bad. It just is that I don't see the need to refrain from responding.

Jim in CT 04-10-2020 02:20 PM

Paul the democrats oppose doing what it takes to drastically reduce illegal crossings. in any practical sense, that means they want open borders.
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Jim in CT 04-10-2020 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1190555)
I've pointed it out a few times. They could care less about poor babies and that is reflected in the budgets they always put forth that take funding away from social service funds which primarily benefit the poor and thus impacts the babies.

if they care less about poor babies, why do they donate more
money and time to charity?

sorry, bill clinton remains a liberal icon. he kicked
millions of poor people
off welfare, and no one accused him of hating poor black babies.

so what you’re saying, is that cutting government aid is only hateful, when republicans do it.
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PaulS 04-10-2020 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1190557)
Paul the democrats oppose doing what it takes to drastically reduce illegal crossings. in any practical sense, that means they want open borders.
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That is just your opinion. The Dems don't think a wall from border to border is the answer.

PaulS 04-10-2020 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1190558)
if they care less about poor babies, why do they donate more
money and time to charity? Didn't we cover this above? BC they want the wall on their church not to have cracks. When I donate $ to my church that $ doesn't support anyone but our church members.

sorry, bill clinton remains a liberal icon. he kicked
millions of poor people
off welfare, and no one accused him of hating poor black babies.

so what you’re saying, is that cutting government aid is only hateful, when republicans do it.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

So somehow what Clinton did is the same as trying to get rid of Obama care, constantly trying to gut SNAP, funding for preschools, etc. and gut all the social services programs as the Repubs do? They are no where near the same. The problem Clinton's welfare reform was that it worked bc of the improving economy but the block grants didn't increase so when we had the next recession there was a safety net with holes in it.

It is like comparing Trump's constant lying and insults with something a Dems. says 1 time (like how you have used deplorable 000s of times).

Sea Dangles 04-10-2020 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1190537)
No, not really bc you are a vile, scummy person.

Donate $50 so you won't look like an idiot after you try to call people out.

It’s obvious that somebody didn’t get enough live as a child. Too bad.

The name calling is a real difference maker. I have to admit.

If you need a father figure I am here for you and I will be happy to take you fishing on my new boat when it is ready.👍🏿
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Jim in CT 04-10-2020 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1190561)
So somehow what Clinton did is the same as trying to get rid of Obama care, constantly trying to gut SNAP, funding for preschools, etc. and gut all the social services programs as the Repubs do? They are no where near the same. The problem Clinton's welfare reform was that it worked bc of the improving economy but the block grants didn't increase so when we had the next recession there was a safety net with holes in it.

It is like comparing Trump's constant lying and insults with something a Dems. says 1 time (like how you have used deplorable 000s of times).

if your church is self centered, that’s your church. other churches give massive amounts of money to charity.

you constantly criticize me for making generalizations, but it’s ok when you do it
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Jim in CT 04-10-2020 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1190561)
So somehow what Clinton did is the same as trying to get rid of Obama care, constantly trying to gut SNAP, funding for preschools, etc. and gut all the social services programs as the Repubs do? They are no where near the same. The problem Clinton's welfare reform was that it worked bc of the improving economy but the block grants didn't increase so when we had the next recession there was a safety net with holes in it.

It is like comparing Trump's constant lying and insults with something a Dems. says 1 time (like how you have used deplorable 000s of times).

if your church is self centered, that’s your church. other churches give massive amounts of money to charity.

you constantly criticize me for making generalizations, but it’s ok when you do it
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Jim in CT 04-10-2020 03:15 PM

paul, how is Clinton’s kicking people off welfare, less hostile to poor people, then republicans who try to reduce SNAP? other than pure partisanship.
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PaulS 04-10-2020 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1190564)
if your church is self centered, that’s your church. other churches give massive amounts of money to charity.No one has ever made the claim that churchs didn't give $ to charity. But much of my yearly dues don't benefit anyone other than me and the congregation. If that was taken into acct. the donation difference would be different.

you constantly criticize me for making generalizations, but it’s ok when you do it
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You make more generalizations than any one here and it is reflected in the amount of your posts. The vast majority of my generalizations are in direct response to yours.

PaulS 04-10-2020 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1190562)
It’s obvious that somebody didn’t get enough live as a child. live? that makes no sense. Did your foster homes not send you to school?Too bad.

The name calling is a real difference maker. I have to admit.

If you need a father figure I am here for you and I will be happy to take you fishing on my new boat when it is ready.����
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I don't think you would make a good father figure as you are vile. I don't try to associate w/people like you.

spence 04-10-2020 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1190567)
You make more generalizations than any one here and it is reflected in the amount of your posts.

He just makes stuff up, like Hillary wanting unlimited abortion and open borders...

PaulS 04-10-2020 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1190566)
paul, how is Clinton’s kicking people off welfare, less hostile to poor people, then republicans who try to reduce SNAP? other than pure partisanship.
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Trump's budgets went far beyond that.

They proposed cuts to public education, Amtrak, HUD including eliminating block grants which funds programs like Meals on Wheels, housing/rental assistance, energy assistance and other community assistance programs. He scaled back job training programs. He scaled back funding for the agency which supports minority-owned businesses. He lowered the $ for grants to college students with the greatest need for financial aid. So the impact was much greater than any Clinton budget. All this while proposing lower taxes which mostly went to the upper incomes.

Jim in CT 04-10-2020 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1190567)
You make more generalizations than any one here and it is reflected in the amount of your posts. The vast majority of my generalizations are in direct response to yours.

paul what about time? the same study showed that conservatives also donate more time to charity, and donate more blood. how do you dismiss that?

my generalizations ( democrats support abortion), are sane. yours ( republicans hate babies) are stupid.
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Jim in CT 04-10-2020 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1190569)
He just makes stuff up, like Hillary wanting unlimited abortion and open borders...

unfortunately for
you, and despite the media fawning over her almost as passionately as you do, she lost. because i’m the states that decide elections, people
agree she has those positions, and they don’t like those positions.

what limits would biden put on abortion? he’s gone way to the left on the issue since declaring this time. what a good catholic boy.
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The Dad Fisherman 04-10-2020 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1190560)
That is just your opinion. The Dems don't think a wall from border to border is the answer.

What about Sanctuary cities?
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Sea Dangles 04-10-2020 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1190568)
I don't think you would make a good father figure as you are vile. I don't try to associate w/people like you.

I have plenty of experience parenting. So far things are going well. My oldest graduated from the Wharton School ( different frat than Trump) and has a happy life in CA. He has been a big brother since college in Philadelphia and continues to be a big brother out west. His little is a boy named Derrick and Bill has been with him for six years. Last year Bill won an award at work for being the employee that best represents the values of the company.

That’s bragging, would you like to hear more?
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PaulS 04-10-2020 06:22 PM

Good for them. They must have a good mother cuz you're a vile person.
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Pete F. 04-10-2020 07:24 PM

2 simple questions
Has abortion increased or decreased since rowe vs wade?
What was the abortion rate prior to rowe vs wade?


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