Let's be very clear, I agree it's he said/she said, and to me, that's not enough. One more time, I don't think Biden should have to step down.

However, YOUR SIDE was quite satisfied that "he said - she said" was more than enough, when it came to Kavanaugh. I'd love to hear an explanation from you, as to why an accusation alone was enough for liberals to treat Kavanaugh as if he was guilty, but suddenly it's not enough to conclude Biden is guilty. What's the difference?

During the Kavanaugh hearings, Biden himself said it was our duty to assume these women are telling the truth. Is there any reason why that should only apply to Republicans?

This isn't about Biden. It's about the entire democratic world pivoting 180 degrees from what they were saying with Kavanaugh. As always, they want it both ways.

"Jim you can call it. Liberal hypocrisy'

What else would you call it? By what possible logic cam liberals say an accusation was enough to doom Kavanaugh, but not enough to doom Biden?

How can you spin this any other way?

Among the lurid details of the lawsuit, Jane Doe alleged Trump tied her to a bed, "forcibly raped" her and threatened her and her family with physical harm, if not death, if she told anyone about the assault. "I understood that Mr. Trump and Mr. Epstein knew that I was 13 years old," Jane Doe wrote in an affidavit
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SO do we assume that an accusation means guilt? Or do we only assume that for Republicans? We need a standard, and it needs to be applied consistently. Is that asking too much?

Let's see if anyone filed anything in court


http://thememoryhole2.org/blog/doe-v-trump

PS I’m old enough to remember when they were gonna find out where the 107 million in Trump Inaugural funds went?

Biden's accuser filed criminal charges. Filing charges that you know are false, is a crime. Does that count?

Ms Reade filed a criminal complaint on 9 April 2020 with police, saying she was a victim of sexual assault but did not name Mr Biden.

She said in a tweet that she filed the complaint "for safety reasons only", as the statute of limitations for her claim have expired and she had begun to receive online threats.

One of Trump*s 35+ cases is currently in court.

Donald Trump has been credibly accused of rape. His co-defendant in one case died mysteriously in jail. Many, many women have come forward to say that he harassed and assaulted them. Those allegations are another thing that everybody knows. And yet.

Biden has, what, 7 accusers?

Again, let's establish a reasonable standard, and apply it consistently. I can live with that. But if the standard is that accusations are enough, no one will be able to run for anything.

The standard needs to be more than a mere accusation. But a mere accusation, was enough for democrats and the media to sink Kavanaugh. That's why the reaction to Biden is such a joke. In no time at all, it went from "believe all women", to "innocent until proven guilty".

"And yet"

I don't think most people who side with Trump on the accusations, are holding Biden to a different standard. We are pointing out that all the democrats who said Kavanaugh was unfit, should be saying that Biden is unfit. Because everyone who was opposed to Kavanaugh's confirmation, was saying that an accusation was enough.

I don't think an accusation is nearly enough. Not enough to sink Trump, Kavanaugh, or Biden.

I don't think many Republicans are saying Biden should step down. I think we are saying that democrats should be demanding that Biden step down, using the same standard they applied to Kavanaugh.

Accusations of what crime?

Just what did the other women accuse Biden of?

List them and their accusations.

I'll list Trump*s 35 and theirs.

There is so much smoke around Trump* that you know there is a fire unless you are so deeply buried in the Trump* narrative that if you concede your only choice is suicide.

As far as Kavanaugh goes, he's the guy who wanted to question Clinton in public about every single detail of his alleged sexual affair(s) but squealed like a stuck pig when anyone asked about his life. And no, his was not investigated. And yes, he is on the Supreme Court for life.

Jim, do you notice how Pete F does his often used thread hijack trick in order to rag on Trump? He makes absolutely no attempt to address your thesis in this thread, the hypocrisy of the Dems in how they react to the Biden thing vs how they did with Kavanaugh, but jumps straightway to Trump is a bad guy. Saturday-Night-like comedy.

On this one, I definitely think the dems should ask Biden to step aside. There’s still time to get someone else (younger) and less sleazy. There are a lot of accusers, and these accusations take away much of Biden’s credibility and appeal to female voters.
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Unfortunately there’s nothing comedic about the incompetence of this administration.
Much more of a tragic comedy where the lead of the farce is President Pinesol.
A million plus infected and
More dead than Vietnam
And the con man thinks he deserves praise.
Impressive
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You might as well just vote for Trump*
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Save yourself a lot of time and effort. Just copy this post and paste in every thread no matter what the subject is.

Just stay on brand all the time that’s your motto.
You’ll be ecstatic when America descends to the third world.
America Alone
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I think Jim is right. The Dems are absolute hypocrites by not saying and acting to the accusation against Biden as they did to the accusation against Kavanaugh.

Just stay on brand all the time that’s your motto.
You’ll be ecstatic when America descends to the third world.
America Alone
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And the Trumplicans are not because they have ignored 35 accusations against Trump* never mind the court cases and payoffs of porn stars.
Apparently that’s just Trumplican’s dream scenario, little #^&#^&#^&#^&, fake tits and a little moaning
Congratulations on your wet dreams
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Memo to Pete F. Need to stop ranting. We all know Mr. Lysol is the biggest idiot in American history. But the evidence speaks for itself. It doesn’t need to be shouted.
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You want to know what everyone thinks about Reade. You want to know why cnn didn't bring her up with Biden. You obsess; you whine about hypocrisy. Yet, do you obsess about why Faux and its talking heads didn't concern themselves with a suit about Trump raping a child associated with Epstein? Do you whine about their hypocrisy on 4 billion issues? No, you don't. Your hypocrisy whining is hypocritical.

Well, Jim, as you can see, these guys know how to employ slight of hand (typing hand) to deke away from having to rationally discuss your premise. If they can't honestly discuss, then just divert, fake, and repeat their preferred TDS mantras.

yup...over and over and over

So apparently you were lying about "Biden has, what, 7 accusers?"

Sorry, I didn't know you have no access to a search engine.

https://www.thecut.com/2020/04/joe-b...legations.html

Oh, the hair smelling crimes
Name: Jessica Leeds

Claim: Trump sexually assaulted her on a plane in the 1970s. (Reached up her skirt and grabbed her.)

3 years later, she ran into Trump who called her a "c*nt"
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Trump Rape Allegation

Name: Ivana Trump

Claim: Trump raped her in 1989 and ripped out her hair.

Trump's lawyer Michael Cohen claimed "you cannot rape your spouse."
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Trump Sexual Assault Allegation

Name: Kristin Anderson

Claim: Trump reached up her skirt and grabbed her at a club in NYC in the 1990s.

Friends witnessed the event at the time and knew it was Trump.
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Trump Sexual Assault Allegation

Name: Jill Harth

Claim: In the 1990s Trump shoved her into a wall, grabbed her under her skirt, and tried to kiss her.
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Trump Sexual Harassment Allegation

Name: Lisa Boyne

Claim: Trump sexually harassed her at a dinner where women were forced to walk on a table to leave the event . As they walked Trump looked up their skirts and made gross sexual comments to Boyne.
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Trump Sexual Harassment Allegation

Name: Mariah Billado

Claim: Trump walked in on her while she was changing at a Miss Teen USA competition in 1997
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Trump Sexual Harassment Allegation

Name: Victoria Hughes

Claim: Trump walked in on her and others while they got dressed at a Miss Teen USA competition, girls as young as 15 were naked
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Trump Sexual Assault Allegation

Name: Temple Taggart

Claim: Trump kissed her on the lips at the 1997 Miss USA pageant, non-consensually
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Trump Sexual Assault Allegation

Name: Cathy Heller

Claim: Trump grabbed her and kissed her on the lips at a brunch at Mar-a-Lago in the 1990s. Her husband and children were at the event.
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Still looking for hair sniffing
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Trump Sexual Assault Allegation

Name: Karen Virginia

Claim: Trump grabbed her breast, non-consensually, and said "Don't you know who I am?" at the 1998 U.S. Open.
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Trump Sexual Harassment Allegation

Name: Tasha Dixon

Claim: Trump walked in on her and other contestants while they were naked in their dressing rooms to stare at them during the 2001 Miss USA pageant. Trump's staff then pressured the women to interact with him.
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Trump Sexual Harassment Allegation

Name: Bridget Sullivan

Claim: Trump walked in on her naked in her dressing room and would give creepy hugs, low on her back.
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Trump Sexual Assault Allegation

Name: Melinda McGillivray

Claim: Trump grabbed her butt at Mar-a-Lago in 2003. A photographer at the concert says McGillivray told him of the assault soon after it happened.
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Trump Sexual Assault Allegation

Name: Natasha Stoynoff

Claim: Trump sexually assaulted her at Mar-a-Lago in 2005. He shoved her against the wall and started forcibly kissing her. He said he wanted to have an affair with her.
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Trump Sexual Assault Allegation

Name: Rachel Crooks

Claim: When she was a receptionist at Trump Tower in 2005, Trump kissed her on the lips without her consent. She went and hid in her boss's after the assault and called her sister.

Her sister confirms this version of events.

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Trump Sexual Assault Allegation

Name: Ninni Laaksonen

Claim: In 2006, Trump grabbed her butt backstage at the Late Show with David Letterman.
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