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Jim in CT 06-01-2020 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1194203)
I think the issue is Unarmed and Math


In absolute numbers, more white people than black people are killed in police shootings (because white people outnumber black people in America).

i read that nine unarmed black men were killed by cops in the US in 2019. In Chicago, 9 murders happen in an average weekend. black-on-black violence is therefore a much bigger threat to blacks day to day. but that doesn’t help democrats get elected so it gets ignored, and the left acts as if blacks are hunted every day by white cops.
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Jim in CT 06-01-2020 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1194203)
I think the issue is Unarmed and Math


In absolute numbers, more white people than black people are killed in police shootings (because white people outnumber black people in America).

i read that nine unarmed black men were killed by cops in the US in 2019. In Chicago, 9 murders happen in an average weekend. black-on-black violence is therefore a much bigger threat to blacks day to day. but that doesn’t help democrats get elected so it gets ignored, and the left acts as if blacks are hunted every day by white cops.

blacks are shot and killed
by cops in disproportionate numbers. is it because of racism? or is it because blacks disproportionately live in areas with lots of violent crime?
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wdmso 06-01-2020 12:20 PM

now Trump wants the Joint chief of staff to handle the Riots??

Trumps Is willing to put US troops on the Street .. using Antifa

at attacking anyone with a D next to their name must be how you united a country

Trump tells nation's governors 'most of you are weak

Trump told the governors that "you have to use the military" and "we have a wonderful military,"


The White House

@WhiteHouse
“These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd, and I won’t let that happen. Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. Thank you!”

Pete F. 06-01-2020 12:36 PM

Protesters running amok. Innocent citizens under siege. Outside actors engaging in terrorist acts. Police struggling to maintain control and in desperate need of reinforcements.

That was how Chinese state media portrayed anti-government protests in Hong Kong last year, dismissing calls for greater democracy and an investigation into police brutality by focusing on individual acts of violence and property damage. The widespread unrest, and the prospect of more this year, has been used to justify a new national security bill that will be imposed upon the city by Beijing in coming months.

Then, the US supported people's right to take to the streets and have their voices heard, and that sporadic violence or illegality did not undermine the core demands or legitimacy of the movement.

wdmso 06-01-2020 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1194213)
Protesters running amok. Innocent citizens under siege. Outside actors engaging in terrorist acts. Police struggling to maintain control and in desperate need of reinforcements.

That was how Chinese state media portrayed anti-government protests in Hong Kong last year, dismissing calls for greater democracy and an investigation into police brutality by focusing on individual acts of violence and property damage. The widespread unrest, and the prospect of more this year, has been used to justify a new national security bill that will be imposed upon the city by Beijing in coming months.

Then, the US supported people's right to take to the streets and have their voices heard, and that sporadic violence or illegality did not undermine the core demands or legitimacy of the movement.

Dozens of journalists covering anti-racism protests that have rocked the US have reported being targeted by security forces using tear gas, rubber bullets and pepper spray.

now where would they get that Idea from enemy of the people

detbuch 06-01-2020 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1194214)
Dozens of journalists covering anti-racism protests that have rocked the US have reported being targeted by security forces using tear gas, rubber bullets and pepper spray.

now where would they get that Idea from enemy of the people

Yeah . . . as you know . . . the security forces were all trump "supporters" and they heard his dog whistles.

Pete F. 06-01-2020 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1194216)
Yeah . . . as you know . . . the security forces were all trump "supporters" and they heard his dog whistles.

Tweety’s tweet

The professionally managed so-called “protesters” at the White House had little to do with the memory of George Floyd. They were just there to cause trouble. The @SecretService handled them easily. Tonight, I understand, is MAGA NIGHT AT THE WHITE HOUSE???
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detbuch 06-01-2020 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1194218)
Tweety’s tweet

The professionally managed so-called “protesters” at the White House had little to do with the memory of George Floyd. They were just there to cause trouble. The @SecretService handled them easily. Tonight, I understand, is MAGA NIGHT AT THE WHITE HOUSE???
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Whoopie . . .

Got Stripers 06-01-2020 05:58 PM

We have reached a low when the president instead of trying to calm the country is threatening US military in states that don’t handle this to his satisfaction.

Sea Dangles 06-01-2020 06:00 PM

Yup
He needs to pass out hugs

detbuch 06-01-2020 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1194222)
We have reached a low when the president instead of trying to calm the country is threatening US military in states that don’t handle this to his satisfaction.

As in past riots that local government couldn't handle, the national guard was able to "calm the country."

Got Stripers 06-01-2020 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1194226)
As in past riots that local government couldn't handle, the national guard was able to "calm the country."

The national guard is not the only military action he was threatening, states have done that, he is threatening more federal intervention.

Jim in CT 06-01-2020 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1194230)
The national guard is not the only military action he was threatening, states have done that, he is threatening more federal intervention.

if the national guard can’t ensure safety, doesn't trump have the obligation to raise the bar? eisenhower sent in the 101st airborne to ensure school
desegregation after the national guard failed to do so.

if the national guard can’t do it, is the potus supposed to just watch cities burn?
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detbuch 06-01-2020 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1194230)
The national guard is not the only military action he was threatening, states have done that, he is threatening more federal intervention.

Keyleigh McEnany in her press briefing today said that the "assets" that General Milley would be in charge of is the national guard.

Pete F. 06-01-2020 07:56 PM

Peaceful protesters were gassed and shot with rubber bullets to clear away a space near a church to give Trump a photo-op waving a bible flanked by AG Barr and Sec Def Esper. Monstrous. Anticonstitutional.

This will get far worse and will escalate enough to fulfill Putin’s dreams

Congratulations Trumplicans

A sad day for Americans

When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.

We are there

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Pete F. 06-01-2020 08:14 PM

Bishop Edgar Budde of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington tells CNN on air: "I am outraged. The president did not pray when he came to St. John's nor did he acknowledge the agony of our country right now."

"We distance ourselves from the incendiary language of this president."
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detbuch 06-01-2020 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1194237)
Bishop Edgar Budde of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington tells CNN on air: "I am outraged. The president did not pray when he came to St. John's nor did he acknowledge the agony of our country right now."

"We distance ourselves from the incendiary language of this president."
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He kind of sounds like you . . . but not as tasteless.

Pete F. 06-01-2020 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1194238)
He kind of sounds like you . . . but not as tasteless.

America doesn’t matter to you, apparently
As long as the Citrus Caligula wins
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detbuch 06-01-2020 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1194245)
America doesn’t matter to you, apparently
As long as the Citrus Caligula wins
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I think America would be much better without divisive people like you.

Ian 06-01-2020 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1194231)
if the national guard can’t ensure safety, doesn't trump have the obligation to raise the bar? eisenhower sent in the 101st airborne to ensure school
desegregation after the national guard failed to do so.

if the national guard can’t do it, is the potus supposed to just watch cities burn?
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That’s been his tactic with PPE and other preventative measures with Covid... “Let the states handle it”

Now that black people are involved in an activity associated with unrest, he all of a sudden wants to intervene in state business to look like a tough guy for his supporters

You can have one or the other, but selectively applying your own rules is never a good idea when things are being recorded and reported live
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detbuch 06-01-2020 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian (Post 1194251)
That’s been his tactic with PPE and other preventative measures with Covid... “Let the states handle it”

Now that black people are involved in an activity associated with unrest, he all of a sudden wants to intervene in state business to look like a tough guy for his supporters

You can have one or the other, but selectively applying your own rules is never a good idea when things are being recorded and reported live
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Blacks are proportionately hit harder by Covid, and they reminded Trump about that. And that was reported live.

spence 06-02-2020 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by afterhours (Post 1194196)
"Eff' the city and move into residential areas - white hoods...and we take what's ours." - yours Antifa friends.
That won't go over well.

Actually looks like this was from a fake account set up by a white nationalist group.
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Ian 06-02-2020 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1194252)
Blacks are proportionately hit harder by Covid, and they reminded Trump about that. And that was reported live.

What does this have to do with the point that you quoted to respond to?
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Got Stripers 06-02-2020 06:47 AM

Trump using military police to move US citizens expressing their freedom of speech so he could walk across to street to have a photo op in front of the church says it all; it’s always been all about him. I’m surprised he didn’t get killed by a bolt of lightening as he held up a book he clearly doesn’t live his life by.

PaulS 06-02-2020 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1194263)
Trump using military police to move US citizens expressing their freedom of speech so he could walk across to street to have a photo op in front of the church says it all; it’s always been all about him. I’m surprised he didn’t get killed by a bolt of lightening as he held up a book he clearly doesn’t live his life by.

What a clown. I almost laughed as he wants others to show strength as he hides in his bunker and talks tough. Why doesn't he go out there and "punch them in the face"?

Sea Dangles 06-02-2020 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1194265)
What a clown. I almost laughed as he wants others to show strength as he hides in his bunker and talks tough. Why doesn't he go out there and "punch them in the face"?

Is this your new reality?
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PaulS 06-02-2020 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1194266)
Is this your new reality?
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Roly - you get a bike to help you get that BMI down?

Sea Dangles 06-02-2020 08:23 AM

I have bikes PaulS. Why insult me when I ask a simple question?

PaulS 06-02-2020 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1194270)
I have bikes PaulS. Why insult me when I ask a simple question?

Why do you insult people constantly and add nothing constructive to this forum?

The Dad Fisherman 06-02-2020 09:39 AM

behave please.
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Jim in CT 06-02-2020 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1194265)
What a clown. I almost laughed as he wants others to show strength as he hides in his bunker and talks tough. Why doesn't he go out there and "punch them in the face"?

What should he be doing Paul? Did Obama parachute into Ferguson when there were riots there?

I can't believe he hasn't sent in overwhelming force yet, I can't imagine what he's waiting for.

PaulS 06-02-2020 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1194274)
What should he be doing Paul? Did Obama parachute into Ferguson when there were riots there?

I can't believe he hasn't sent in overwhelming force yet, I can't imagine what he's waiting for.

Did Obama claim he was such a tough guy and say he wanted to punch people in the face? Did he constantly insult people? Did he try to inflame tensions or work to calm things down?

Jim in CT 06-02-2020 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1194275)
Did Obama claim he was such a tough guy and say he wanted to punch people in the face? Did he constantly insult people? Did he try to inflame tensions or work to calm things down?

I agree with you on his tweets. But is he wrong for saying he'll send in the military, while in the same day going to his bunker if the secret service tells him to do so?

He's blowing this. Obviously you weren't going to say anything good no matter what he did, but he's turning me of for not doing anything. He said the feds would keep peace if police and National Guard couldn't, and obviously they can't. If he doesn't do anything, he doesn't deserve to get re-elected. I'm an Eisenhower fan. Eisenhower would have sent in the Marines and the 82nd Airborne in huge numbers. I know this, because he did it in a situation far less lethal than this situation.

PaulS 06-02-2020 10:03 AM

His initials statement(s) were good but he couldn't resist tweeting.

Jim in CT 06-02-2020 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1194277)
His initials statement(s) were good but he couldn't resist tweeting.

he can never resist tweeting.
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RIROCKHOUND 06-02-2020 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1194278)
he can never resist tweeting.
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Or making stupid photo-ops with the bible upside down and backwards a church that didn't even want him. If he at least went inside and prayed the optics of going to that church would not have been so horrid....

Jim in CT 06-02-2020 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1194279)
Or making stupid photo-ops with the bible upside down and backwards a church that didn't even want him. If he at least went inside and prayed the optics of going to that church would not have been so horrid....

could he have gone inside and prayed? it was burned. i thought it was an ok move.
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RIROCKHOUND 06-02-2020 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1194280)
could he have gone inside and prayed? it was burned. i thought it was an ok move.
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The fire was in one room in the basement. My understanding was others were inside.

Even if not, he didn't even try and appear pious, or mournful,it was just a photo-op, one which they had to tear gas and use rubber bullets to clear for the photo.

One of the political shows I used to catch before they moved time slots was a guy on sirius, who would often say, 'Trump is not the Anti-Christ, but Christ is the anti-Trump'... sums him up well I think.

scottw 06-02-2020 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1194281)

If he at least went inside and prayed the optics of going to that church would not have been so horrid....

The fire was in one room in the basement. My understanding was others were inside.

if you saw the clip the windows and door were boarded up with plywood

scottw 06-02-2020 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1194281)

one which they had to tear gas and use rubber bullets to clear for the photo.

don't know about this instance but typically when they bust out the tear gas and rubber bullets...you've done something to deserve it


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