What’s getting boring is the consistent incompetence of Tweety and his inability to lead.
Esper’s public statements today show that Tweety is not doing much in the way of good internal politics to maintain cohension on his team, beyond demanding loyalty.
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The more you hear that rhetoric, the more it seems ok and normal to those that follow this game show clown like he has a clue. Your blue run on font mind numbing posts are far more boring, in fact if I need to get to sleep, I just get on this board and zzzzzzzzzzz.

Now you’re just perpetuating the myth. 43 suffered from this as well.
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Youtube right
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He's doing a great job. US should have 100 million vaccine doses by end of year, Fauci says.

Glad to be of help. Even though you don't read them.

Nope. It was perpetuated by ANTIFA.

Wrong.

FBI arrested 3 Boogaloo Bois for terrorism in Vegas, with Molotov cocktails on their way to incite violence at a protest.
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Another of your lies.
He said could and he also said there's a chance coronavirus vaccine may not provide immunity for very long.
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I copied and pasted an ABC headline. If you want to quibble that ABC lied by saying "should" rather than "could" makes me no diffefence. ABC quotes him as saying, among other things "by maybe November, December, which means that by that time we hopefully would have close to a 100 million doses,"

Anyway, I just used your method of just saying stuff. I like that. Will do that more often, especially when responding to the same kind of bald statements.

Next you’ll claim that Tweety invented it when he was in the bunker
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Actually, I won't say that. That was easy. Will continue your method.

And I'll use your's
Though much shorter than Bingbong and Molyneux and not full of baloney

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYMpjNRoQQg

So start small. Don’t let it get dented here. You know they are different, defend it.

This is a hard one to navigate, because otherwise, we make it too easy to manipulate the system into never fixing itself. Every time someone protests a legit gripe, send in some rioters so no one believes them. I’m not saying that’s what happened here, I’m just saying that if you’re willing to associate the two, you allow that to be a possibility.

The other choice here is to develop some habits where we distance the two conversations, discuss them on their own merits, and vigorously defend each thread from being poisoned by the other.

But both groups of opinions on this site are guilty of not doing this, heck I even failed to do it the other day when I found myself devolving into a rant about trump during a message that started about protests, right after saying we should be better about separating this stuff, so I know I’m not perfect.

BUT if we each admitted that the topics themselves had merit without spilling over to the others, the sharp minds here would probably get somewhere closer to consensus, and might actually move some opinions forward.

Instead we cut the meaty dialog around the merits of the protests short by saying things like everyone is an animal that can’t function in society because they just start rioting, or all cops are bahstads.

And that’s fooked up
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Missed this one, this thread got busy and it got lost.

I want to answer it, but I’m not entirely sure I get all the dimensions of the point you were intending to make. In order to do justice to your original point here with my response, would you mind clarifying? Not pandering or anything, just not 100% clear on the way the thought was closed out and you asked me what I would do.
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This is totally inferior propaganda. Bongino and Molyneux don't just say stuff (no wonder you like this tripe video--it uses your just say stuff method) Bongino and Molyneux give detailed, fact and evidence based presentations. Your stuff is propaganda for those who have short attention spans.

A head of state using a standing army to occupy an American city, compel citizens off the street, stifle free expression and assembly, using paramilitary forces to smoke clergy out of their churches at the head of state’s whim, is pretty much the founders’ nightmare.
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That's not what happened.

It is what happened

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lowr86dZns

What you said is not what happened:

"A head of state using a standing army"

There was no standing army being used against the will of a state governor. Washington D.C. is not a state. The President as commander-in-chief of the District of Columbia's national guard has the legal, constitutional power to use it in that city. The original notion of the Founders, that the central government did not have the authority to impose the power of a standing federal army on the states and the free citizens therein, never applied to D.C.

to occupy an American city, compel citizens off the street,

The National Guard were not "occupying" D.C. A military occupation is generally a military controlling a foreign territory by force. The American city in this case was being occupied by protesters, many of which were not residents of D.C., not by a standing army which was lawfully protecting the jurisdiction at the behest of the city's commander in chief.

stifle free expression and assembly, using paramilitary forces to smoke clergy out of their churches at the head of state’s whim, is pretty much the founders’ nightmare.

Free expression and assembly were not "stifled." It was moved a small distance. Non-peaceful, unlawful expression may have been stifled. I haven't heard about people being smoked out of their churches. I did hear about people not being allowed to attend their churches during the pandemic shutdown.

The Founders would have definitely approved of the President ordering his federal troops to quell destructive civil disorder in D.C. The Thugs and ANTIFA in the crowd had been turning the peaceful "occupation" into a violent, dangerous, life threatening, destructive one. The Founder's nightmare would have been a President who allowed the Capitol to be desecrated by thugs and criminals.

As for clearing a path for the President, the people had the right to hear him. The right to protest does not give the right to stifle the free speech of others, nor the right to deny others the right to hear their President.

Weasel words, but Tweety doesn't care about the rule of law anyways.

Citizens have the right to enter one state and leave another, the right to be treated as a welcome visitor rather than a hostile stranger.

Citizens of the United States have a constitutional right to assemble and the right to speak.

You have not listened or looked to see what happened, willful ignorance once again. As is typical of authoritarians, you ignore the greater good and focus on the lesser evil.
They physically drove the rector from the church courtyard.
There was no violence until it was escalated by government forces.
They drove all the people out and he said no words.

It was a photo op, pure and simple

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X90Y7gOwNg

Among other things, it was a photo op. It's what politicians do. But there was a definite message or two in the op. A message partially in response to the lie that he was "hiding like a coward in the bunker." The President doesn't make those decisions. The secret services does. And I'm guessing that, for security reasons, the secret service was not approving of the op.

And "the world" was divided about the message. Unlike the fake anti-Trump media, there was a large world that approved of his message. And you probably scoff at that. I'm guessing, it makes you feel good about yourself to do that.

In the German part of the "world" Tweety is viewed as the greatest threat to world peace with a percentage greater than Kim Jong Un, Ali Kahmenei, Vladimir Putin and Xi Jingpin combined, so apparently they disagree with you and the other 30% of Americans that support Tweety.

His self image is so bad and he is such a wimp, that in order to assuage his ego he had to have troops drive Americans out of Lafayette Square.
What a poor excuse for a leader.

First, the president started the fire. He kept adding fuel.

Now, he wants credit for attempting to put it out.

Meanwhile the house is burning.

And don't forget that in this day of the iphone, the amount of police brutality at the anti-police brutality protests is not helping the image. That is not all the officers, but as a percentage it is higher than the number of criminals among the protesters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDVsFY1exy8

OK, I won't forget . . . not.

This is juuuuuust a tad sensationalized... just a liiiiiiiiiiiittle bit....
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I guess Antifa is having recruiting issues, it’s sad when you have to hire 75 year olds to do your dirty work. It’s also sad and scary we have a president so loopy he signs on to every wacky conspiracy theory that resonates with him.

oh...please try to quantify this gem

id also like to see some data to support that statement.
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I'll let you all prove that wrong, you can do it at the same time you find the evidence for all the antifa Tweety and Barr found.

Is Tweety planning to have protesters teargassed again?


Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Any protesters, anarchists, agitators, looters or lowlifes who are going to Oklahoma please understand, you will not be treated like you have been in New York, Seattle, or Minneapolis. It will be a much different scene!
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He's trying to incite violence, taunt Antifa to actually show up.

It's insane.

A petty, vile man who dis-honors the office.

Contempt for law and order seems to be en vogue amongst our brave #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s. Raise your hand if you know what happens next.
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Hey, I'm going to the canal tonight. Why don't you meet up?

At the canal?
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If I'm going to the canal why would I want to meet up anywhere else
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I would be happy to meet Paul. I won’t be fishing, but would certainly enjoy putting a face to the name. Tell me where and what time. We are renting a beach house close by so I am flexible.
I guess my confusion was due to you saying that you don’t associate with me. I am happy you reconsidered.
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I'll PM you my cell phone and you can decide since I'll be fishing all night
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