Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1196546)

Your funny are you suggesting only privately run schools can successfully teach American and minorities..

It's telling that you think my desire to have the federal Dept. of Education abolished means that only privately run schools can successfully teach Americans and minorities.

Perhaps you've missed my oft stated fact that the Constitution leaves education in the hands of the states and their citizens, NOT IN THE GRASP OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. Abolishing the national Dept. of Education does not do away with public schools. On the contrary, it frees up the states to do what the Constitution intended in the separate ways each state, locality, and citizenry desire and consider best for themselves.


Seems you fail to grasp the volume of students who pass thru our public schools or how their funded staffed ect.

You keep making these idiotic assumptions about me.
I am painfully aware of those things. What many fail to grasp re funding, as it has been and still is, the states and localities provide by far the most money for public education. The federal government provides only 2 percent.

And what you deem a measurement of success. Is absent from your response

Here's a measurement of success: http://www.tsowell.com/speducat.html

And what has devos done to improve the system besides throw money at religous and private ones . Which has been her goal since day 1

I am against the federal government throwing any money into the educational "system." I want the federal "system" regarding education totally abolished. Devos is irrelevant except insofar as she may do away with as much federal control as possible.

Clearly our system doesn't treat all school and students equally and never has. And choice is only an option to those who wish to pay for it , or the willingness to to have their child travel hours to a charter school because they can't afford to live in that area.. with good schools .. this isnt just a minority issue its a rual issues as well
But for the right its not an issue at all .. they wish to fix . Its part of their national relection theme. They can't loose the base .. whom id wager 99% went to public schools . Who clearly failed them in civics and history

Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1196609)

Is civics still taught? If it is, I suspect it's a very Progressively slanted version. Which would be a reason that the first thing that comes to many minds re education and its funding is the federal government.

Originally Posted by RickBomba (Post 1196610)

Butchie,
You talk like a cop.

I might be wrong, just noticing.
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1196616)

No I’m picturing a very large x walleye fisherman in his mother’s basement, probably in his underwear, pontificating on multiple forums around the country and probably any other English speaking countries as well, because his knowledge and expertise are too important not to share. He can’t sleep much as his next political opinion has usually started to take shape in his brain as bedtime is yelled down by his mom.

The letters on his keyboard are barely legible at this point, even though it’s only a year old. On his desk is probably a picture of his last fishing rod he owned, he is holding it as his mother snapped a picture of his last big (two pounder) walleye, sitting next to three empty cans of Dinty Moore beaf stew, the spoons almost permanently clued to the bottom.

It’s a hard life keeping the world abreast of the correct interpretation of every political turn and twist, but we are lucky we have him here.

Originally Posted by RickBomba (Post 1196619)

I bet Butchie is just a scared cop from the Midwest.

Butch,
Am I right? If I’m wrong, I sincerely apologize.

If I’m right, why don’t you focus on helping the US where you live, instead of debating us in New England, where we help each other.
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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1196624)

Not a cop. Actually I applied for police cadet training when I graduated from collelge, but was refused for the same reason I couldn't get into the navy. Some really bad ulcers. Ironically, they didn't really know much about what caused them then. So I spent 10 years bleeding all over the city of detroit. Come to find, it was just a simple bacteria, h pylori, easily cured with an anti-biotic formulated for it.

Would have loved the navy, though.

I do my part for the country where I am. Harassing you guys out East is fun.

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1196596)

Change throughout history has been accomplished by the mob.. this isnt new


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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1196636)

At least you guys picked the right branch :-)
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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1196656)

it's good to know where people stand