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detbuch 08-13-2020 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1198806)
No, just SAD
Like his failure to lead

He has fulfilled his constitutional executive responsibility very well. He has not been the dictator you think a President should be.

The case against Tweety’s administration is open and shut. Just look where they’ve gotten us:”

Millions out of work.

This is a worldwide economic phenomenon caused by COVID, not by Trump. Trump's policies had put people back into the workplace that had been out of it. And the economy, once it opened up, began a rebound. The closing of the economy was the "experts" recommendation. Trump probably would have preferred not to close it down. Sweden didn't, there economy didn't take the hit, and they flattened the curve. Trump pushed for the economy to open up and was criticized for it. It's rebound is due to re-opening the economy that the "experts" and the Dems say we shouldn't, and if we didn't, the economy would be destroyed and take a lot longer to regenerate, if at all. Which would benefit the leftist's desire to put the peoples hope and trust fully and only on the government rather than private initiative.

Millions of kids who cannot go back to school.

They can, and should. The Progressives don't want that.

A crisis of poverty, of homelessness.
More than 170,000 lives that have been cut short.
And a thousand more each day dying
It’s time to say You’re Fired

No, it's time to bring back the market oriented policies that Trump created, and let the economy flourish again rather than further suppressing it in order to damage it beyond repair.

Pete F. 08-13-2020 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1198830)
No, it's time to bring back the market oriented policies that Trump created, and let the economy flourish again rather than further suppressing it in order to damage it beyond repair.

He inherited the longest economic expansion in history and then, like everything else he inherited, he ran it into the ground.
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detbuch 08-13-2020 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1198831)
He inherited the longest economic expansion in history and then, like everything else he inherited, he ran it into the ground.
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That is an absolute lie. "Longest economic expansion in history" doesn't mean that at the time he "inherited it," it was expanding at rate that would get unemployed people back to work, or to expand the actual number of jobs and businesses, or to create an environment that could attract many of the businesses that found it more profitable to operate elsewhere. It was pessimistically referred to as an anemic "new normal."

Trump did not run that into the ground, rather, against Democrat, leftist, Progressive predictions, that he would, he dramatically made it roar.

What ran that into the ground was the closing down of the economy, which arguably was not necessary to do in such a draconian fashion that the "experts" demanded.

This Covid thing was the last best hope for the Dems to bring Trump down. And they are playing it for all it's worth and more. He did not cause the virus. And his handling of executive duties was not the cause of it being some proclaimed disaster. Check the number of deaths in the US vs the combined number of deaths in these six European countries, Germany, France, italy, UK, Belgium, and Austria whose combined total population is close to the population of the U.S.. The death toll is not that different. And we have a far more adversary political and media opposition to Trump's ability to act than most of those countries have to slow down or defeat their executives policies.

Pete F. 08-13-2020 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1198836)
That is an absolute lie. "Longest economic expansion in history" doesn't mean that at the time he "inherited it," it was expanding at rate that would get unemployed people back to work, or to expand the actual number of jobs and businesses, or to create an environment that could attract many of the businesses that found it more profitable to operate elsewhere. It was pessimistically referred to as an anemic "new normal."
The growth in all economic factors never experienced a bump, it has gone on the same path for years. The biggest jump was in what we owe.

Trump did not run that into the ground, rather, against Democrat, leftist, Progressive predictions, that he would, he dramatically made it roar.
Tweety's failure was expected, it's been the hallmark of his life.
He propped the aging expansion using every tool possible and prior to Covid we were further in the hole than ever before in a growing economy.

What ran that into the ground was the closing down of the economy, which arguably was not necessary to do in such a draconian fashion that the "experts" demanded.

All the countries you cite, really shut down their economies and are now experiencing less than 10% of the deaths and new cases that we are and are going back to normalcy, carefully.

This Covid thing was the last best hope for the Dems to bring Trump down. And they are playing it for all it's worth and more. He did not cause the virus. And his handling of executive duties was not the cause of it being some proclaimed disaster. His failure to administer and lead was. Check the number of deaths in the US vs the combined number of deaths in these six European countries, Germany, France, italy, UK, Belgium, and Austria whose combined total population is close to the population of the U.S.. The death toll is not that different. And we have a far more adversary political and media opposition to Trump's ability to act than most of those countries have to slow down or defeat their executives policies.



When Tweety doesn't like COVID numbers, he stops testing.

When Tweety doesn't like census numbers, he stops counting.

When Tweety doesn't like vote tallies, he stops the mail from delivering them.

& when Tweety doesn't like intelligence, he stops listening:


Last seven days which is the data that matters in controlling the virus, looking at total deaths is like saying how great Striped Bass do, look at how many there have been.

The countries you cited
Deaths 534
New cases 34,450

USA
Deaths 7384
New cases 376,435

Tweety's lies and incompetence have lead to the greatest outbreak of Corona in the world.

There’s no football. Grandparents can’t leave their home. Kids aren’t going to school.

Tweety has wrecked the American way of life.

detbuch 08-13-2020 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1198837)
The growth in all economic factors never experienced a bump, it has gone on the same path for years. The biggest jump was in what we owe.

As of October 2019, shortly before the Covid effect

"the average pace of job growth has been an impressive 179,000 jobs per month over the past year, and job gains have surpassed 100,000 in 31 of the 34 months since President Trump was elected. Considering the unprecedented length of the expansion and the low unemployment rate, continued job growth at this point demonstrates that today’s labor market is historically strong."

"The unemployment rate fell to 3.5 percent in September, marking the 19th consecutive month at or below 4 percent unemployment. The unemployment rate is the lowest it has been since May 1969—over 50 years ago."

"With a 50-year low for the unemployment rate and consistent job gains, the September employment data make it clear that the American labor market remains historically strong."

That is in no way, as you claim, running the economy into the ground.


Tweety's failure was expected, it's been the hallmark of his life.
He propped the aging expansion using every tool possible and prior to Covid we were further in the hole than ever before in a growing economy.

He didn't fail. He used "every tool possible" (that's called leadership and administration) to continue the economic expansion into historical strength.

All the countries you cite, really shut down their economies and are now experiencing less than 10% of the deaths and new cases that we are and are going back to normalcy, carefully.

Trump doesn't have the authority to shut down the economy. The states have the power to do that within their borders. The political systems of EU countries provide a more direct executive control than our federated system. I would guess that you prefer a more authoritarian system than we have. In the meantime, you will continue to criticize Trump for not being more of a dictator.

When Tweety doesn't like COVID numbers, he stops testing.

Testing has not stopped.

When Tweety doesn't like census numbers, he stops counting.

Has the counting stopped? September 31 is the deadline. Deadline was moved from the official end of July date to October 31. Then moved up to September 31. Still time for folks to get their forms in. I sent mine in a long time ago. Our mayor is begging everyone to fill out their forms. Seems like there has been plenty of time to do it, but a lot have not.

When Tweety doesn't like vote tallies, he stops the mail from delivering them.

The Post office has been ordered not to deliver them? Didn't here about that.

& when Tweety doesn't like intelligence, he stops listening:

Far as I know, he still listens.

Last seven days which is the data that matters in controlling the virus, looking at total deaths is like saying how great Striped Bass do, look at how many there have been.

The "last seven days" changes every seven days, sometimes gets better, sometimes gets worse. Probably were seven day stretches before that looked good for us. Otherwise, how can totals be fairly similar now. The overall figures from day one to now have not significantly changed in the past seven days and have not pointed out some disaster in the U.S. response.

Tweety's lies and incompetence have lead to the greatest outbreak of Corona in the world.

China's lies have led to that. The initial WHO incompetence didn't help. His inherited bungling regulatory agencies didn't help. But that was corrected.

There’s no football. Grandparents can’t leave their home. Kids aren’t going to school.

Tweety has wrecked the American way of life.

Those aren't Trump's prerogative nor choice to call.
NFL is still scheduled to play. Baseball is being played. Grandma can leave home. You can go to Grandma's.

So far, the American way of government has not yet been totally divorced from our Constitution. Keep voting in Progressives, and that American way of government will be wrecked.

Pete F. 08-13-2020 08:16 PM

Silly boy how many Americans died today from COVID-19?
You always skip the information that refutes your weak argument

The countries you cited
Deaths 534
New cases 34,450

USA
Deaths 7384
New cases 376,435

Hard to believe you’re impressed with the barking carnival clown
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detbuch 08-13-2020 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1198865)
Silly boy how many Americans died today from COVID-19?
You always skip the information that refutes your weak argument

The countries you cited
Deaths 534
New cases 34,450

USA
Deaths 7384
New cases 376,435

I didn't skip this. I commented on it. But when you first brought it up you said the figures were for the last seven days. Now you're saying it's for today even though today is not over.
The last full day report was for Wednesday 1424 deaths.


Hard to believe you’re impressed with the barking carnival clown
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Why do you keep saying that I've said something I didn't. I didn't say I was impressed with Trump--I assume that's who you mean by the barking clown. If you mean barking clowns in general, or some actual barking clown, I didn't claim to be impressed by any of those.

scottw 08-14-2020 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1198871)

Why do you keep saying that I've said something I didn't.

it's like the plague with these people :hihi:

Pete F. 08-14-2020 06:35 AM

The national debt:

👉 up $3.5T from the beginning of Tweety’s term to covid;

👉 up another $3T since then
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Pete F. 08-14-2020 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1198882)
it's like the plague with these people :hihi:

But it won’t kill you like the Trump Plague
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detbuch 08-14-2020 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1198883)
The national debt:

👉 up $3.5T from the beginning of Tweety’s term to covid;

👉 up another $3T since then
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Congress is up to its usual spending money that we don't have. It have been doing this consistently for a century. And 3T is not worth what it was 10 years ago. Do you think Biden will convince Congress to lower the national debt?

Pete F. 08-14-2020 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1198894)
Congress is up to its usual spending money that we don't have. It have been doing this consistently for a century. And 3T is not worth what it was 10 years ago. Do you think Biden will convince Congress to lower the national debt?

He could just promise like his predecessor, remember nobody knows debt like Tweety, bankruptcy, tax dodging and con jobs are his specialty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l67MNKunUl8

detbuch 08-14-2020 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1198895)
He could just promise like his predecessor, remember nobody knows debt like Tweety, bankruptcy, tax dodging and con jobs are his specialty.

Keep believing that Biden will be a boon to the national debt.


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