Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1199589)

If you are falling for the BE VERY AFRAID of Antifa and it's the Dems message of the RNC you're being played.

Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1199620)

If any of you thinks this all ends peacefully, we are fast approaching the reconciliation point of no return.

Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1199576)

Antifa Myth
(Pete's thread)
Spence June 1 (Vastly Overated because 98% of violent extremist attacks are white suprems)
Wayne's it's OK because they oppose Trump


The three of you in particular have repeatedly defended the mostly peaceful rioting by a small tiny group that are OK becaues they are against Trump.




We don't know that because we are no longer allowed to complete an investigation. You don't know if he has a gun in that door pocket, nor does the cop but the cop has probably been told by dispatch that Blake has a warrant / DV. But you have decided its OK because feels / oppression.






Trump didn't go shoot Floyd. Trump didn't go loot Portland.






Actually no. I did not vote for Trump. I support the 1A, and peaceful assembly. I think the Constitution, even though imperfect, is the best document ever created. I have zero support for little Marxists Che Wannabe Commies. Which, BTW, was common among Dems too until the useful idiots got involved.





Sometimes it is justified, sometimes it is not - this is why it is supposed to be investigated.

But why let facts stand in the way of a good riot.

Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1199620)

If any of you thinks this all ends peacefully, we are fast approaching the reconciliation point of no return.




You are justifying and providing cover for useful idiots.

Maybe they'll burn down (or confiscate) your home last

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1199623)

Only in America can people support killing a person based on a feeling I thought he had a gun or thought he was going for a knife .. so I shot him 7 times in the back.... you shoot 7 time for 3 reason fear or anger or your in a shoot out what facts would make this ok?

Even in Iraq aka combat zone me or my men did not have the latitude to shoot an Iraqi because he might be armed or I thought he was reaching for something

Sad that in the united states Police rules of engagement are weaker than one in a war zone against their own citizens

I am fully aware of the responsibilities of wearing a weapon and taser in public plainclothes walking convicted felons from the car, down public streets and thru hospital lobby's eyeballing everyone on the off chance that today's the day . Is his victim here an angry family member a rival gang? Going to act..

So I see my criticisms of the shooting not form the view of some guy on the couch who has no clue . But from a position of experience and a supervisor... nor iam I suggesting he was a bad person or bad officer. But some mistakes cant be ingnored or undone with arguments like the guy had a record or he beat his wife . Or had a rape charge, or the color of their skin. thats just not fair treatment under the law .

Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1199624)

MSNBC just ran a couple telling video comparisons on how some white mass murderers are calmly and peacefully arrested and in the case of Charlestown Church killer, even taken to Burger King right after because he was hungry. The other one show cased a naked crazed killer of three, actually attacking a grounds keeper and yet the multiple police let him run around clearly a threat and all he gets is some pepper spray. The average white American has no clue the profiling and real potential danger young black men live with and the way it might impact their behavior in a stressful encounter with a white police officer which might give him the impression his life might be in danger. Easy for us white men and women living in our comfortable homes in the suburbs to say that black man should have just calmly given up, when we don’t understand the decades of abuse that might shade their instinctive reaction.

Did your white mom and dad after giving you the birds and the bees talk, sit you down and warn you about how your life may be taken from you in a second because of your skin color, live a year in their shoes and your opinion of these incidents might change.

Again the rioting and property damage is wrong and plays right into Trumps play book, but there is a reason for concern. I’m not saying defund police, but they are protected from any criminal charges by contract in far to many municipalities. Trump won’t change anything because he to believes he is above the law as the nations top police officer.

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1199639)

You’re not paying attention
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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1199658)

Here's some insanity for you

Aubrey Huff: “Kyle Rittenhouse is national treasure.”
Ann Coulter: “I want him as my president.”
Tucker Carlson: “How shocked are we that 17-year-olds with rifles decided they had to maintain order when no one else would?”

Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1199652)

By skin it is not fair treatment of the law - we have not reached fairness yet, and fully. Black people are proportionally targeted higher than others - it is not right and it is not fair. If the guy had a record or he beat his wife or had a rape charge, DV history, Assault with weapons charges can and SHOULD be a metric. Blowing up and defunding the entire system is not the answer.

But we don't know if the guy was reaching for something, clearly you are with the not other factors mattering or determined by investigation.

We are not having the conversation on what will really make strides to fix the system, we have people wanting to tear everything down because that will somehow be better - what a stupid effing thing to believe.

We are not trying to get where facts dictate what happened we are where narrative writes what to believe. We can't wait until the facts say George Floyd was wrongly murdered (likely, but the legal system needs to decide) and too many people ignore that Mike Brown was found the aggressor

We no longer take facts in the matter because "Hands Up Don't Shoot", meant to never happened with Michael Brown yet almost everyone thinks he said that and people shout it at every protest. And people then went out and executed cops in many places because reacting before understanding the facts.

Other black people have died because wrong decisions by cops and sheer stupidity, and it is wrong, happnes to white preople too. What is it by demographics? Is it outsized then too?

The vast majority of everyone thinks that



Of course MSNBC did. There is also a common thread since yesterday that the cops in Kenosha were giving the shooter water because



I am not buying your insanity, there is a difference.

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1199663)

Tweety's re-election strategy seems to be to argue that only Donald Trump can save America from Donald Trump’s America.

It's like if I’m at a restaurant and I ask for them to send over the not yet hired manager so I can complain about the lousy service I’m getting. Confusing, right? It makes as much sense as the Republicans somehow trying to blame Biden for the mess Trump’s made of the country.

https://www.keepamericagreat.com/

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1199661)

According to the National Academy of Sciences...if you look at the number of actual unarmed people killed by police by race...

if you compare that to national %s of race, it happens to blacks disproportionately.

If you compare it to the % of race that live in big cities (where most of these encounters happen), it's not disproportionate.

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1199664)

what you fail to see through your fog of insanity, is that pre covid, most americans were better off than before trumps first day. now not all of that is due to him obviously. but as 2019 came to a close, america felt peaceful ( in terms of threats from jihadists at least) and certainly prosperous.

why wouldn’t trump remind people
of that, and warn them that biden is likely to give back some of the gains we made? for sure biden wants to raise taxes dramatically. not sure i like tax hikes when we’re not nearly recovered from the pandemic.
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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1199669)

What about the unarmed black people like Jacob Blake that aren't killed? What about the unarmed black people who are pulled over, detained, searched, unjustly convicted etc... etc... etc...

You keep trying to misuse stats to deny anything is wrong. This is what this is all about.

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1199675)

What you fail to see is that our suffering for Trump’s failures is just beginning. We have lost more than half a year, Trillions of our treasure and 180,000+ lives, squandered by his incompetence. Not just incompetence, but incompetence in the pursuit of his personal interests over the needs of this country.
The last presidency capably brought us out of the Great Recession, that recovery lasted until what will likely be known as the Trump Depression. Trump, thanks to high deficits in his first two full years in office followed by massive federal expenditures aimed at offsetting the economic effects of the coronavirus crisis, is on pace to add more to the national debt in his first term than Obama. But I'm sure Tweety will claim that he will cut taxes if reelected.


My daughter lives in Paris, and in Europe the joke is Where's stupid? It's right between Canada and Mexico
The whole world is laughing at us

Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1199652)

By skin it is not fair treatment of the law - we have not reached fairness yet, and fully. Black people are proportionally targeted higher than others - it is not right and it is not fair. If the guy had a record or he beat his wife or had a rape charge, DV history, Assault with weapons charges can and SHOULD be a metric. Blowing up and defunding the entire system is not the answer.

But we don't know if the guy was reaching for something, clearly you are with the not other factors mattering or determined by investigation.

We are not having the conversation on what will really make strides to fix the system, we have people wanting to tear everything down because that will somehow be better - what a stupid effing thing to believe.

We are not trying to get where facts dictate what happened we are where narrative writes what to believe. We can't wait until the facts say George Floyd was wrongly murdered (likely, but the legal system needs to decide) and too many people ignore that Mike Brown was found the aggressor

We no longer take facts in the matter because "Hands Up Don't Shoot", meant to never happened with Michael Brown yet almost everyone thinks he said that and people shout it at every protest. And people then went out and executed cops in many places because reacting before understanding the facts.

Other black people have died because wrong decisions by cops and sheer stupidity, and it is wrong, happnes to white preople too. What is it by demographics? Is it outsized then too?

The vast majority of everyone thinks that



Of course MSNBC did. There is also a common thread since yesterday that the cops in Kenosha were giving the shooter water because



I am not buying your insanity, there is a difference.

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1199682)

You think it's just the French

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88zu3vvVioY

:rotflmao:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1199693)

Are Russia and Syria thriving more than we are? What is your point, exactly?

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1199701)

Everyone knows that Tweety is an ineffectual joke, those guys love what he's doing to America's position in the world

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1199709)

A 17 year old heard the message. He lived in Indiana. He sat in the front row of a Trump rally. He heard it all. He took it all in. He was poisoned by it. He was converted by it. He was radicalized by Trumpism the same way young men in the Middle East are radicalized by extremism.

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1199669)

What about the unarmed black people like Jacob Blake that aren't killed? What about the unarmed black people who are pulled over, detained, searched, unjustly convicted etc... etc... etc...

You keep trying to misuse stats to deny anything is wrong. This is what this is all about.

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1199709)

A 17 year old heard the message. He lived in Indiana. He sat in the front row of a Trump rally. He heard it all. He took it all in. He was poisoned by it. He was converted by it. He was radicalized by Trumpism the same way young men in the Middle East are radicalized by extremism.

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1199710)

I want to see where a minor got an AR. There could be others liable.

Prepare for more of this.

Originally Posted by RickBomba (Post 1199712)

Hang him.

Sorry, that’s a capital crime.

Fry him.
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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1199717)

There are reports for that that the State and Attorney General get uploaded every few days. Every stop collects race data.

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1199718)

But does this get rolled up nationally? I didn't think this was a requirement.

Originally Posted by TheSpecialist (Post 1199780)

So all of you BLM supporters, is this what you are supporting? I mean lets be honest here are these people getting a point across, even the woman a protestor knows the difference , or are people getting sick of it, and saying no more....

https://www.mrcolionnoir.com/kenosha...nGHs7Dn2XFQvkw

Originally Posted by zimmy (Post 1199781)

Far less then you support the illegally armed teen murdering people in the streets, or the Cliven Bundy criminals, or the criminal behavior of the huge number of people that have gone through his white house, I am sure.
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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1199786)

“To everyone instigating a possible civil war from all sides, let me give you a little bit of advice. Many of us served and fought in the wars. When our time was done, we came back to the USA to start over and live in peace. It wasn’t us who kneeled on the neck of a man until he died. It wasn’t us to retaliate by kneeling on the neck of a toddler saying “BLM NOW mf.”
You see, War is hell. Millions of you do not quite grasp this concept. We have been to hell, lived in hell, climbed out of hell, and don’t want to go back to hell. If you keep trampling on the peace we fought for, earned and love, then when that first shot gets fired, you will force us back to hell; and we will show you the brutal realities of hell.
Y’all better work this #^&#^&#^&#^& out before we do, because I guarantee you are not ready for this."


Not mine.... but I can't find anything to disagree with here...

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1199793)

No arguments here.
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