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Pete F. 09-30-2020 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1202010)
Not much to misconstrue in what he said
"Proud Boys, stand back and stand by," Trump said after Biden named the far-right group. "But I’ll tell you what, somebody’s got to do something about antifa and the left." Is this anyone to the left of the Trumplicans? Is he saying he will brook no opposition, like Stephen Miller said on tape?
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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1202011)
What was it, exactly, that Biden said about Antifa and leftist rioters that condemned their violent actions?

He said the same thing as FBI director Wray and the same thing he has said previously.
Here's a tape

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGvQ9kkB-1A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_EmwEcDcBg

detbuch 09-30-2020 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1202012)
He said the same thing as FBI director Wray and the same thing he has said previously.
Here's a tape

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGvQ9kkB-1A

Biden did not condemn Antifa or leftists rioters on this video, nor in the debate. He just gave a general condemnation of various violence. The only specific person he blamed for the violence was Trump.

If Trump had given this generalized response to Wallace's question while gratuitously blaming Biden, would that have been acceptable? I asked you what "Biden said about Antifa and leftist rioters that condemned their violent actions?" I didn't ask you what Ray said. Biden said nothing specifically about about left wing violence. But Trump is asked specifically about what is considered right wing violence.

And Trump has also condemned the violence in general previously, and also specifically condemned white supremacism several times. And he keeps getting asked, over and over, to condemn it. And he has. So, once again, he is asked to in the debate. But Biden gets a pass.

Pete F. 09-30-2020 01:57 PM

Once again Trump has never heard of something or someone.

Didn't know David Duke either

Trump knows the Proud Boys because of the Roger Stone scandal involving them.

Also, the chairman of Proud Boys is the Florida State Director of Latinos for Trump. Enrique Tarrio. Same Proud Boy who organized the Portland rally a few days ago.

Why would I think there's pics of them?

detbuch 09-30-2020 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1202015)
Once again Trump has never heard of something or someone.

Didn't know David Duke either

Trump knows the Proud Boys because of the Roger Stone scandal involving them.

Also, the chairman of Proud Boys is the Florida State Director of Latinos for Trump. Enrique Tarrio. Same Proud Boy who organized the Portland rally a few days ago.

Why would I think there's pics of them?

Once again you inform us of very meaningful stuff.

Pete F. 09-30-2020 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1202015)
Once again Trump has never heard of something or someone.

Didn't know David Duke either

Trump knows the Proud Boys because of the Roger Stone scandal involving them.

Also, the chairman of Proud Boys is the Florida State Director of Latinos for Trump. Enrique Tarrio. Same Proud Boy who organized the Portland rally a few days ago.

Why would I think there's pics of them?

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1202018)
Once again you inform us of very meaningful stuff.

This morning, authorities in Portland arrested Proud Boys member Alan Swinney. He faces a dozen charges, six of which are felonies, including assault, unlawful use of weapon, and menacing.

Pete F. 09-30-2020 03:08 PM

If you want to claim that Trump did and does a great job, perhaps you can explain a simple point. If a president cannot follow the clear, agreed upon rules of a debate, why would we expect him to follow the more demanding obligation to faithfully execute the laws & his office?

detbuch 09-30-2020 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1202019)
This morning, authorities in Portland arrested Proud Boys member Alan Swinney. He faces a dozen charges, six of which are felonies, including assault, unlawful use of weapon, and menacing.

Good news that we wouldn't have known if you didn't tell us. I'm sure this wouldn't have been picked up by CNN or MSMBC or CBS or NBC or the NYT or Washington Post. You must have some really good sources to pick this stuff up and letting us know.

detbuch 09-30-2020 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1202020)
If you want to claim that Trump did and does a great job, perhaps you can explain a simple point. If a president cannot follow the clear, agreed upon rules of a debate, why would we expect him to follow the more demanding obligation to faithfully execute the laws & his office?

Wow. That's really a good point. No wonder you post so much. Your head must be exploding with good stuff and you just gotta let it out . . . you know . . . to do us a favor and help us understand life and what's really going on . . . and it probably hurts if you try to hold it . . . Yeah, and if he can't follow those simple rules, how could he even drive a car . . . or run a good con . . . or flush his toilet.

Pete F. 09-30-2020 11:06 PM

Might be why he wears Depends
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detbuch 10-01-2020 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1202033)
Might be why he wears Depends

Ahhh. . . Thanks for dropping another load of verbal chit on us from that huge reservoir of words teeming in your head. As I say, the swelling of really important facts packing your brain probably hurts to hold them in. So it's good for you to release that important and weighty piece of info and share with us your beautiful mind.

Pete F. 10-01-2020 06:17 AM

The GOP bought the MAGA ticket - they take the ride.
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RIROCKHOUND 10-01-2020 06:35 AM

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Pete and Detbuch in this thread: :scream:
What a waste of time for you two....

scottw 10-01-2020 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1202040)
Pete and Detbuch in this thread: :scream:
What a waste of time for you two....

this personal attack is shameful :huh::hihi:

RIROCKHOUND 10-01-2020 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1202042)
this personal attack is shameful :huh::hihi:

Just calling it like I see it :bounce:

Back to :hidin:

Pete F. 10-01-2020 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1202020)
If you want to claim that Trump did and does a great job, perhaps you can explain a simple point. If a president cannot follow the clear, agreed upon rules of a debate, why would we expect him to follow the more demanding obligation to faithfully execute the laws & his office?

I find his non answer to this quite telling
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PaulS 10-01-2020 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1202044)
Just calling it like I see it :bounce:

Back to :hidin:

Seriously?

Pete posts about Trump and debuch responds back with personal insults with the occasional attempt to make a counter-point. Pretty much what happens all the time.

spence 10-01-2020 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1202020)
If you want to claim that Trump did and does a great job, perhaps you can explain a simple point. If a president cannot follow the clear, agreed upon rules of a debate, why would we expect him to follow the more demanding obligation to faithfully execute the laws & his office?

And how can a President who's doing anything possible to undermine a free and fair election -- the foundation of our democracy -- in any way be considered fit for office?

They're even going so low as to use taxpayer funded food aid to promote Trump as a savior to people in poverty.

RIROCKHOUND 10-01-2020 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1202048)
Seriously?

Pete posts about Trump and debuch responds back with personal insults with the occasional attempt to make a counter-point. Pretty much what happens all the time.

I have Pete on ignore, but I see his quoted posts. He posts off topic comments (some of which I do agree with), Detbuch comes back and around and around they go....

scottw 10-01-2020 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1202049)

And how can a President who's doing anything possible to undermine a free and fair election

.

sometimes you sound crazier than pete

scottw 10-01-2020 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1202048)
Seriously?

Pete posts about Trump and debuch responds back with personal insults with the occasional attempt to make a counter-point. Pretty much what happens all the time.

detbuch is one of the most respectful people here...he does get frustrated with the stupidity displayed occasionally but I'd give him high marks for decorum and willingness to continually engage the loons

Pete F. 10-01-2020 11:00 AM

Are the loons for Trump or against?

More than 50 Republican former national security officials endorsed Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden on Thursday, joining one of several Republican organizations opposing the re-election of President Donald Trump.
The new endorsements will bring it to nearly 130 individuals who have publicly broken with the Republican president, including seven who served under Trump, people familiar with the effort said.

“I’ve concluded that he is dangerous to the existence of the republic as we know it.” Marc Racicot, former Chairman of the Republican Party, on Trump.

Retired General Stanley McChrystal, former head of US & International forces in Afghanistan, endorses Joe Biden for President

They are far from alone.

This is not like Obama vs McCain where the big stink was that Lieberman endorsed McCain, this is a considerable number of leading Republican political figures. Probably all loons

scottw 10-01-2020 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1202060)
Are the loons for Trump or against?

More than 50 Republican former national security officials endorsed Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden on Thursday

this makes sense...trump is creating peace and stability around the world and those guys are probably miffed because they want to blow s^it up and get paid for consulting the companies that specialize in blowing s^it up....

PaulS 10-01-2020 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1202058)
detbuch is one of the most respectful people here...he does get frustrated with the stupidity displayed occasionally but I'd give him high marks for decorum and willingness to continually engage the loons

Decorum - LOL

The Dad Fisherman 10-01-2020 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1202058)
detbuch is one of the most respectful people here...he does get frustrated with the stupidity displayed occasionally but I'd give him high marks for decorum and willingness to continually engage the loons

Absolutely, always tries to foster conversation.
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wdmso 10-01-2020 11:51 AM

With Trumps Taxes Trump defenders on one hand the report was a hit job the information wasn't real all fake, on the other hand he played by the rules he's a hero he did nothing illegal, bla bla bla. So which is it? Real or FAKE it can't be both. Easy fix he can show his tax returns which he won't he never provides evidence in any of his claims. But for his followers only honey pours from his mouth

TRUMPS BEHAVIORS. I'd give him high marks for decorum and willingness to continually engage the loons. So an F plus

Trumps and white supremacy I wish his supporters would put the same effort they put in defending Trump over that, into condemning his actions in de legitimizing our election. Is it only rigged if he losses ? But not if he wins. Again You cant have it both ways you'll try.:kewl:

RIROCKHOUND 10-01-2020 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1202065)
Absolutely, always tries to foster conversation.
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Plus his English is impeccable for a Russian troll (I kid, I kid) :rotflmao:

Got Stripers 10-01-2020 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1202066)
With Trumps Taxes Trump defenders on one hand the report was a hit job the information wasn't real all fake, on the other hand he played by the rules he's a hero he did nothing illegal, bla bla bla. So which is it? Real or FAKE it can't be both. Easy fix he can show his tax returns which he won't he never provides evidence in any of his claims. But for his followers only honey pours from his mouth

TRUMPS BEHAVIORS. I'd give him high marks for decorum and willingness to continually engage the loons. So an F plus

Trumps and white supremacy I wish his supporters would put the same effort they put in defending Trump over that, into condemning his actions in de legitimizing our election. Is it only rigged if he losses ? But not if he wins. Again You cant have it both ways you'll try.:kewl:

Hey any right leaning diabetics on this site, I’m curious if your buying the new insulin Trump claimed during the debate he lowered the price to on par with water. Just another lie, well unless your water costs you close to $40 per day.


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