It is not my viewpoint that the President is titular at best.

It is not my viewpoint that the President has no responsibility.

As for "a unitary president", we do have, per the Constitution, one President at a time. And he has limited constitutional powers.

It is you that seems to have the Progressive viewpoint that the President has tremendous powers outside of constitutional limitations.

We do have these Progressive regulatory agencies which have unconstitutional plenary legislative, executive, and judicial powers. I may be wrong, but you seem to favor them. In which case, I would think that you would want them to continuously carry out their missions without constant supervision and command.

As for the load of words that follow your above statement, they are not worth my spending any time dissecting. They amount to a narrative that can lead to different opinions and conjectures. Your implication has not been verified.

And I didn't mention Trump's impeachment. You keep making stuff up.

Perhaps I misunderstood and you are claiming that agencies used some other method to remove a duly elected President in this statement? "They even undermine our own democracy, for instance, by attempting to remove a duly elected President."

But currently the Covita campaign is looking at what's happening and trying to decide who's fault this is:

"If there was a flaw in our strategy, it was probably that we forgot that women had the vote."

"If there was a flaw in our strategy, it was letting our campaign staff steal all the money instead of using it for campaign purposes."

"If there was a flaw in our strategy, it was killing the voters."

“If there was a flaw in our strategy it was thinking that we could use a four-year-old platform and sell it as something new.”

"If there was a flaw in our campaign strategy, it was probably the decision to make our Number One issue the unfairness of cable TV to the president, instead of anything any voter actually cared about."

"If there was a flaw in our campaign strategy, it was nominating and re-nominating a malignant narcissist in thrall to foreign powers with zero care or concern for anything other than grabbing as much of other people's money as he could lay his hands on."

“If there was a flaw in our strategy it was thinking that we actually COULD fool all of the people, all of the time.”

SAYS THE MAN WHO SUGGESTED THE DEM VP candidate slept her way to the top

You have no credibility :cheers:

She could be behind closed doors who knows

What does that matter at this point?

It’s all part of the political game, remember even Trump is worse off today than he was 4 years ago
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He's way better off than he was a month ago when he contracted covid. Thanks to his Operation Warp Speed.

Trump called the election "a fraud on the American public" and said, "Frankly, we did win this election." He also said he planned to take the battle to the U.S. Supreme Court but did not explain what he meant.


this-is the main reason I have no understanding how anyone could vote for this Guy .. he isn't out the race . and still spews this nonsense

he cant even take responsibility if he wins it will be because of litigation or fraud if he losses ... ??

i wish trump would shut his mouth. but when the attorney general of PA says the day before the election that Trump
will lose there, obviously Trump has cause for some concern.
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this should make the portland riots more fun :hihi:

Oregon Voters Decriminalize Possession of Hard Drugs, Including Heroin, Cocaine, and Meth

not sure How he has no say in the vote count , not sure how you see he statement's as a bigger concern. than the POTUS

5 Years After: Portugal's Drug Decriminalization Policy Shows Positive Results
Street drug–related deaths from overdoses drop and the rate of HIV cases crashes

so its been done I think not 100% that drug dealers still go to prison:btu:

wdmso, are you going to say with a straight face, that mail in ballots aren’t more ripe for fraud?

i see trunks statement as a big concern, one of the worst things he’s said in the last 4 years.

but my wife voted early, and when i checked in yesterday in person, her name wasn’t crossed off. so i asked the volunteer if she was eligible to vote again, and they said yes. she didn’t, but she could have.

with this much at stake, either side is capable of kicking the ball onto the fairway.
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don't you accuse of others of "needles in haystacks"?(some irony there):uhuh:

My needle has a history a track record to actually look at .. not some youtube blogger no one ever heard of..


it illegal and still people use making it legal isn't going to change that

if you actually do a little reading around that may not necessarily be true:bl:

and it's still a needle in a haystack...and some irony regarding the name most associated with the claims:read:

Rockhound said it in another thread spot on. Stop counting everywhere , keep counting in Arizona. That sums him up completely

International Election Observers Say Trump Harms Public Trust In Vote

Shocking

Trumps filling lawsuit in Georgia. Here we go . How can people still support this Clown?

When Gore filed lawsuits in 2000, you criticized him?
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It doesn't help Covita’s argument to "stop counting the ballots" in GA/PA etc. that his only possible path back in AZ/NV is to...continue counting the ballots.

Federal employee Kayleigh McEnany says if Trump loses PA they will go to the supreme court to get ballots mailed before or on election day thrown out
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JIM your history is weak and confused

GORE waited till after the vote to file

TRUMP and The Republicans have been attacking filing against the vote months before and during the vote and during the count

OR Barr and his DOJ bowing to Trump. The law prohibits the federal government from deploying armed guards to places where votes are cast

With this Richard Donaghue, a principal assistant deputy attorney general at the agency, wrote around 1:30 a.m. Wednesday that the law “does not prevent armed federal law enforcement persons from responding to, investigate, or prevent federal crimes at closed polling places or at other locations where votes are being counted.

Here's the Rub whos determining they need to respond investigate or prevent

TRUMP because he's losing, but he's no Authoritarian:btu:

if you mail your ballot on election day you are a frigging idiot....:spin:

Or.

Armed Trump supporters swarm Arizona election centre after his unproven claims of fraud

Based on Rumors spread on Facebook.

Your in the frigging idiot line

[QUOTE=wdmso;1204555]yes. I heard they are currently occupying the facility but it's "mostly peaceful".....:huh::scream:

It’s striking that the same people who are terrified of progressive thinking support what is possibly the most anti-democratic president in US history.
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If you think that ballots that conform to the law in the state in which they are cast should be thrown out (because you are losing), you are not a believer in our Constitution

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F. View Post

ballots mailed on election day

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pete...from the State of Pa website...I know voting is especially difficult for democrats but this is pretty straightforward..


November 3: Election Day

Polls are open from 7 a.m. to 8 p.m.

Last day to return your mail ballot:

IMPORTANT: Voters who have not yet cast their mail or absentee ballot are urged to hand-deliver their voted ballots as soon as possible to their county election office or other county drop off location or drop box. Ballots must be delivered by 8 p.m. on Election Day but the sooner the better. Voters should no longer use postal service delivery as it is too late to guarantee your ballot will be delivered on time.

This.

you know those two were life long democrats....right?


I love the lingo being used now....our local news reporting that last night in Portland the National Guard "suppressed" protesters....

from Portland last night

Riot declared in Portland as rioters smash windows

PORTLAND, Ore. — A riot was declared in Portland, Ore., and protesters took to the streets in Seattle on Wednesday as people demanded that every vote in Tuesday’s election be counted. .

The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office at about 7 p.m. declared a riot after rioters were seen smashing windows at businesses. In the interest of public safety, Gov. Kate Brown activated the use of the state National Guard to help local law enforcement manage the unrest, according to the sheriff's office.



so stopping democrats from destroying the property of others is "suppressing" their right to protest...and stopping democrats from stealing an election is "suppressing" democracy


these people are great...

Don't worry, Covita has some god on his side

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUmMUmLYT1Y

to the point of this thread, was there rampant voter suppression? Voting turnout looks quite high, indicating that voter suppression wasn't a huge factor.

Umm. Isn’t trumpnscreaming like a man child to stop counting votes a symptom of voter suppression? Plus gerrymandering to suppress the minority vote. Plus closing poking stations in minority neighborhoods. All these things happen
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I think you forgot putting a sycophant in charge of limiting USPS bandwidth to try and disenfranchise as many late mail in voters as possible? Disobeying a Federal judge's order to find 300,000 known missing mail in ballots?

Now we're going to see a litany of ridiculous lawsuits in an attempt to get counted ballots tossed, because that's about the only way they can win at this point.

Umm, screaming about how votes are counted, isn't even close to voter suppression.

"Plus gerrymandering to suppress the minority vote"

And democrats don't do that when they are in charge of re-districting. Only Republicans. I agree it's disgusting, but how can you claim it's a GOP-only thing?

"All these things happen"

Yes they do, sadly. But what you're ignorant of, is that they happen on both sides.

Or they could bother counting the 600,000 (is that the right #?) uncounted ballots in AZ. Is it wrong to ask that those be counted for some reason?

The guy who doesn’t want to submit his DNA so we find out he’s a rapist is the same guy who doesn’t want you to count votes so we find out he’s a loser.
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the same people who can't be expected to stand in lines to vote or get their votes in on time can always find time, even during the middle of the week, to protest for hours on end.....:)

When the President is habitually lying about voting by mail during a pandemic, that is 100% an attempt to suppress the vote thinking it will gain an advantage.

Who's saying not to count AZ? Count 'em all, follow the state laws, quit complaining.