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Sea Dangles 01-06-2021 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1207756)
over/under on arrest number?

I say 65

Do the math, liberal dummies!
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PaulS 01-06-2021 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1207788)
Do the math, liberal dummies!
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If I was as scummy as you I would show you some of the emails I get about you
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PaulS 01-06-2021 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1207778)
Sometimes you make my head hurt, Paul......
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Not my problem you don't understand. I would say Jim the actuary understood what I was saying
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scottw 01-06-2021 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1207794)

scummy

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this is such a funny word

nightfighter 01-06-2021 09:34 PM

25th Amendment section 4..... Yep That Constitution is a pretty well done document.

Be it removal, censure, or impeachment, I think Congress could possibly unite, as would the Republican Party, to act now, and by holding Trump accountable and making sure he cannot reappear in a future election. His hours long rebuff of calling for the National Guard may be the final straw.

I wish this all hadn't taken place. I would rather suffer the ridicule from any and all for naming a thread January 6, 2021, and having none of it come to bear.

If nothing else, maybe these next days end up being the beginning of our Congress, working together, being able to govern for the people, for the people.

scottw 01-06-2021 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1207797)
25th Amendment section 4..... Yep That Constitution is a pretty well done document.

Be it removal, censure, or impeachment, I think Congress could possibly unite, as would the Republican Party, to act now, and by holding Trump accountable and making sure he cannot reappear in a future election. His hours long rebuff of calling for the National Guard may be the final straw.

I wish this all hadn't taken place. I would rather suffer the ridicule from any and all for naming a thread January 6, 2021, and having none of it come to bear.

If nothing else, maybe these next days end up being the beginning of our Congress, working together, being able to govern for the people, for the people.


what doesn't kill you makes you a stronger...right?

zimmy 01-06-2021 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1207797)
25th Amendment section 4..... Yep That Constitution is a pretty well done document.

It is, but especially these days it is important to recognize that the constitution existed for 179 years before the 25th amendment. Thank you Thomas Jefferson for your wisdom.

“I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions, but laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.”

Sea Dangles 01-06-2021 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1207794)
If I was as scummy as you I would show you some of the emails I get about you
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This way you could reveal the real me. To me!👖
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scottw 01-07-2021 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1207797)

I wish this all hadn't taken place. I would rather suffer the ridicule from any and all for naming a thread January 6, 2021, and having none of it come to bear.

don't give yourself too much credit...your batting average wasn't very good:jester:

So many devastating possibilities aligning...

The President demanding the VP to defy the Constitution so he can stay in power.
Pence didn't defy the Constitution

Many Republican members of Congress rallying around this otherwise lame duck President, who would be otherwise be leaving office in two weeks, to impede the succession of power. he'll be leaving in two weeks... succession of power not impeded

Trump supporters rallying around the Capitol, some expected to be armed. yup... there was a rally


Trump giving a speech in the morning and possibly joining his supporters. he gave a speech

The leader of the Proud Boys arrested on weapons charges in DC and told to "stay away." not sure if this is a prediction or just stating fact again

A threat over the air controller frequency said a plane was going to be flown into the Capitol tomorrow, likely while the Congress is assembled to read the votes from the electoral college.
This to avenge the killing of Iranian General Soleimani exactly a year ago. didn't see any planes in all the footage

Kenosha Wisconsin likely to see rioting after no charges were brought against a police officer in a shooting last August.
if there were riots there, they didn't make the news.....there were riots in Portland though...shocker...


And there is always the Georgia Senate elections today, with results possibly not being known until tomorrow. they are known


Only the control of the Senate and a continuation of a checks and balance within Congress at stake. Any powder kegs I left out?

Oh, maybe a stack of pardons to round out the afternoon? did he pardon anyone?

I think that makes you 2 for 8 ...I didn't count the poor boys

scottw 01-07-2021 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1207756)
over/under on arrest number?

I say 65

differing reports....somewhere between 13 and 53...26 in the Capitol building..you'd think it would have been much higher given the level of panic from the media types....

how many people were there would you estimate?

just for comparison....

Police injured, more than 200 arrested at Trump inauguration protests in DC

By Gregory Krieg, CNN
Sat January 21, 2017




glad there was none of this...

Pete F. 01-07-2021 07:05 AM

Pipe bombs and Molotov cocktails
Tweety has his private army now
“Big protest in D.C. on January 6th,” Mr. Trump tweeted on Dec. 19, just one of several of his tweets promoting the day. “Be there, will be wild!”
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scottw 01-07-2021 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1207806)

just one of several of his tweets promoting the day. “Be there, will be wild!”

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he wasn't lying....

news says police collected 5 weapons....doesn't sound like a well-regulated militia

Pete F. 01-07-2021 07:27 AM

D.C. Metropolitan Police Chief Robert Contee confirms that law enforcement found 2 pipe bombs, as well as a cooler containing Molotov cocktails, during the response to Wednesday's violence.
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scottw 01-07-2021 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1207808)
D.C. Metropolitan Police Chief Robert Contee confirms that law enforcement found 2 pipe bombs, as well as a cooler containing Molotov cocktails, during the response to Wednesday's violence.
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cocktails in a cooler...no way?!?!

PaulS 01-07-2021 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1207802)
This way you could reveal the real me. To me!��
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I think you and everyone who knows you, knows the real you.

Pete F. 01-07-2021 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1207811)
cocktails in a cooler...no way?!?!

Don't worry some fool who is a true believer is making more and better bombs

Statements from Parler

Yes, Trump I will stand by you, I will swing from the gallows for treason with you if I have to

Trump always, even if he starts killing thousands of Americans. I trust his judgement. I know they would deserve it. God made him. He can't be wrong.

PaulS 01-07-2021 09:26 AM

President Donald Trump spent Wednesday telling people he was happy that the Republicans David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler lost their Senate races in Georgia, the New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman reported.

scottw 01-07-2021 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1207820)

Statements from Parler

Yes, Trump I will stand by you, I will swing from the gallows for treason with you if I have to

Trump always, even if he starts killing thousands of Americans. I trust his judgement. I know they would deserve it. God made him. He can't be wrong.

you should notify the FBI....:kewl:

Pete F. 01-07-2021 09:48 AM

Parler gets photo ID from users. Wouldn’t it be hilarious if the FBI turned out to be running parler as a honeypot?

scottw 01-07-2021 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1207826)
Parler gets photo ID from users. Wouldn’t it be hilarious if the FBI turned out to be running parler as a honeypot?

you are probably the only one here who knows anything about parlor...

Pete F. 01-07-2021 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1207826)
Parler gets photo ID from users. Wouldn’t it be hilarious if the FBI turned out to be running parler as a honeypot?

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1207829)
you are probably the only one here who knows anything about parlor...

Google is not that hard

https://www.google.com/search?q=what...hrome&ie=UTF-8

Pete F. 01-07-2021 10:33 AM

MAGA people planned this openly on social media. They videoed themselves during the act. They showed their faces. They're being identified.

Update: Already THREE Republican state representatives have been identified, two from PA and one from WV.

Pete F. 01-07-2021 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1207804)
differing reports....somewhere between 13 and 53...26 in the Capitol building..you'd think it would have been much higher given the level of panic from the media types....

how many people were there would you estimate?

just for comparison....

Police injured, more than 200 arrested at Trump inauguration protests in DC

By Gregory Krieg, CNN
Sat January 21, 2017




glad there was none of this...

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...ide-trump.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQkVaVrITyg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO3TnWPCuQE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcASKUd7KTo

nightfighter 01-07-2021 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1207756)
over/under on arrest number?

I say 65

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1207761)
I’ll take the over
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1207788)
Do the math, liberal dummies!
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From the Washington Post;

D.C. police said they arrested 69 people from at least 20 states and the District from Wednesday afternoon through early Thursday, most on curfew and unlawful entry charges.

The Dad Fisherman 01-07-2021 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1207843)
From the Washington Post;

D.C. police said they arrested 69 people from at least 20 states and the District from Wednesday afternoon through early Thursday, most on curfew and unlawful entry charges.

What do I win :hihi:
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nightfighter 01-07-2021 04:34 PM

Waiting for Dangles to certify the win.....

Pete F. 01-07-2021 04:41 PM

Acting U.S. Attorney Michael Sherwin says they are looking at all actors involved in the unrest at the US Capitol on Wednesday, including the role President Donald Trump played in inciting the crowd.

Sea Dangles 01-07-2021 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1207848)
Waiting for Dangles to certify the win.....

Waiting for R2D2 to ask mod to lock thread.😭
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nightfighter 01-07-2021 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1207861)
Waiting for R2D2 to ask mod to lock thread.😭
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Apparently I asked you to mock the thread....:hihi:

scottw 01-08-2021 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1207861)
Waiting for R2D2 to ask mod to lock thread.😭
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the totalitarians only want their own threads locked, to keep the rabble out....it's like pelosi who rolls her eyes when your business is burnt to the ground but gets enraged and indignant when some nut is sitting with his feet up on HER desk :rotf2:...servant of the people and all that stuff....

scottw 01-08-2021 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1207730)

Well I think going forward, anyone posting as a Trump supporter can rightly be lumped in with the riotous mob that laid siege to the Capitol You can stand shoulder to shoulder with the Proud Boys.

can we similarly, going forward, lump anyone who supported BLM in any way or democrats for that matter since they were encouraging it.. with the riotous mobs that laid siege to American cities for the past year? They can stand shoulder to shoulder with antifa?

just want to understand the ground rules :uhuh:

Sea Dangles 01-08-2021 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1207870)
can we similarly, going forward, lump anyone who supported BLM in any way or democrats for that matter since they were encouraging it.. with the riotous mobs that laid siege to American cities for the past year? They can stand shoulder to shoulder with antifa?

just want to understand the ground rules :uhuh:

Never pictured Ross as a drama queen but I guess this is part of cancel culture.
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Pete F. 01-08-2021 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1207870)
can we similarly, going forward, lump anyone who supported BLM in any way or democrats for that matter since they were encouraging it.. with the riotous mobs that laid siege to American cities for the past year? They can stand shoulder to shoulder with antifa?

just want to understand the ground rules :uhuh:

What happened in DC is not comparable to burning or looting of other cities. They tried to overthrow the government of the US in broad daylight. Tweety spent months encouraging it. Don’t #^&#^&#^&#^& with me with your “logic.” You’re terrible at it.
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nightfighter 01-08-2021 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1207870)
can we similarly, going forward, lump anyone who supported BLM in any way or democrats for that matter since they were encouraging it.. with the riotous mobs that laid siege to American cities for the past year? They can stand shoulder to shoulder with antifa?

just want to understand the ground rules :uhuh:

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1207876)
What happened in DC is not comparable to burning or looting of other cities. They tried to overthrow the government of the US in broad daylight. Tweety spent months encouraging it. Don’t #^&#^&#^&#^& with me with your “logic.” You’re terrible at it.
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I think some of what Scott says here is worth considering. Yes, Pete, it was on a totally different scale, but both "protests" resulted in illegal and criminal activity causing loss and death. After reviewing some tape of comments made by Kamala, Pelosi, and other Dems, I think we can put their allegiance directly in the ANTIFA and BLM fold...(I wonder if Kamala is going to solicit/pay bail for anyone who was arrested for breaching the Capitol...) It was put together by Fox, but it was compelling. I try to view both sides equally. Flipping from CNN to Fox can make my head spin a little too fast though. Takes great effort to discern the fact and context from the emotional, condescending agenda of both channels.

Got Stripers 01-08-2021 08:47 AM

Like I said earlier, peaceful protest is our right, I don’t care what the cause is your exercising your freedom of speech in, criminal activity doesn’t know left from right only right and illegal. Those that looted and burned in BLM protests are criminals as are all that broke into the capital building and assaulted capital police and vandalized the building. In both examples, those crossing the line detract from the message the majority are trying to send, you then become a band of thugs.

I think there is a big difference between supporting a movement and inciting the riot, which is exactly what Trump, Jared and Rudy did, unless English isn’t your primary language.

zimmy 01-08-2021 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1207880)
Flipping from CNN to Fox can make my head spin a little too fast though. Takes great effort to discern the fact and context from the emotional, condescending agenda of both channels.

I just watched 30 seconds of Fox broadcast. They were showing this quote about the capitol that some nut wrote for the NY Post

"It has bestowed the great gift of the moral high ground on the most undeserving people in the world: Joe Biden and the left.

They now have a free pass to persecute their ideological enemies while enacting their pet cultural Marxist projects and changing this country irrevocably for the worst."

Katie Pavlich, who apparently is a fox commentator, was asked what she thought "Most of that is true, but I disagree that they have a free pass."

So she agrees that the most undeserving people in the world are Joe Biden and the left. She believes they will persecute "their ideological enemies" (which is greatly ironic given the current administration that she almost certainly supports). She agrees with making a parallel between Biden's agenda and Marxism. If 80% of nutters are getting their info from these sources or worse, it clearly explains where we are. We will never be a functioning society when this is the rhetoric that a substantial and powerful (see gerrymandering and electoral college) portion of the country hears and believes.

Jim in CT 01-08-2021 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by zimmy (Post 1207884)
I just watched 30 seconds of Fox broadcast. They were showing this quote about the capitol that some nut wrote for the NY Post

"It has bestowed the great gift of the moral high ground on the most undeserving people in the world: Joe Biden and the left.

They now have a free pass to persecute their ideological enemies while enacting their pet cultural Marxist projects and changing this country irrevocably for the worst."

Katie Pavlich, who apparently is a fox commentator, was asked what she thought "Most of that is true, but I disagree that they have a free pass."

So she agrees that the most undeserving people in the world are Joe Biden and the left. She believes they will persecute "their ideological enemies" (which is greatly ironic given the current administration that she almost certainly supports). She agrees with making a parallel between Biden's agenda and Marxism. If 80% of nutters are getting their info from these sources or worse, it clearly explains where we are. We will never be a functioning society when this is the rhetoric that a substantial and powerful (see gerrymandering and electoral college) portion of the country hears and believes.

Shes saying Biden is undeserving of the moral high ground. And shes right. When Biden tells a roomful of blacks "Republicans want to put y'all back in chains", and says blacks ain't really black unless they support him...well, hes got the right to say those things, but he can't say those things and THEN claim to be the one who's going to bring us together.

Trumps personality was very insulting and polarizing. I totally get why democrats hated him, heck, I hate him as a person too.

What democrats struggle to understand, is that Republicans don't like taking cheap elbows, either. Nobody has delivered more stupid insults than Trump. But democrat leadership has come close. They spent the last 4 years insisting that republicans are a bunch of racist, gay-bashing, sexist, xenophobic cave dwellers, vilifying the police, etc. Fine, they can say that. But again, don't then approach me with open arms and call for unity. It doesn't work that way. You can't have it both ways.

Would have been nice if maybe Bush and Obama (who are friendly) could have a press conference together, remind us of whatever it is that we have left in common.

There will be no unity under Biden (or Pelosi, Schumer, etc), his calls for unity are only slightly less absurd than Trump calls for unity.

Pete F. 01-08-2021 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1207870)
can we similarly, going forward, lump anyone who supported BLM in any way or democrats for that matter since they were encouraging it.. with the riotous mobs that laid siege to American cities for the past year? They can stand shoulder to shoulder with antifa?

just want to understand the ground rules :uhuh:

A DC Police Dept officer says off-duty police officers and members of the military, who were among the rioters, flashed their badges and I.D. cards as they attempted to overrun the US Capitol.

Jim in CT 01-08-2021 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1207895)
A DC Police Dept officer says off-duty police officers and members of the military, who were among the rioters, flashed their badges and I.D. cards as they attempted to overrun the US Capitol.

Which says what, about who? Except those individuals. Can we assume you wouldn't call 911 if, say, someone stole your copy of Chairman Maos Little Red Book?

Pete F. 01-08-2021 12:58 PM

Little obsessed aren’t you?
Where would you turn if your copy of Mein Kampf turned up missing?
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