he doesn't even understand the difference between federal government mandates and private business policies

sorry, here’s my favorite.

San Francisco has a mandate saying that if you’re in a bar or restaurant, unless you’re eating or drinking, you have to wear a mask.

Then there was video of the mayor dancing in a bar with no mask. Not eating or drinking at the time

Clearly, she violated her own mandate.

Her defense? In her own words, she wasn’t thinking about her mask, because she “ was feeling the spirit.”

that’s now a defense of violating her own mandates. “Feeling the spirit.”.

Can’t make that one up, i dare you to try.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbc...2659894/%3famp
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Honestly, if Fox were being run by enemy psyops guys, how would we even be able to tell

Tucker Carlson says vaccine requirements for the military are a ploy to "identify the sincere Christians in the ranks, the free thinkers, the men with high testosterone levels, and anybody else who doesn't love Joe Biden and make them leave immediately."
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Simple answer, double standard

No it’s not
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Has essentially the same the force of a law, big whoop.

even if it were black letter law, i asked about the logic.

There was a time, thanks to Spences side, when the law codified slavery and segregation. did we just say “wish we could do something, but the law is the law”? Or did we question the law until it was repealed? same with gay marriage.
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you know, you posted before that childhood numbers are up, as justification. i asked you if you were saying that kids are now as risky, or riskier, than adults, and i didn’t see you respond.

Why is that? Is it because you know you can’t answer honestly without making my point for me?
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Again Jim why do you provide examples that are not remotely the same .. yes some Dems got caught disregarding their own mask orders
For you it’s like the girl throwing the egg ! you are incapable of seeing the big picture . How many maskless people at Trump rallies how many GOP lawmakers using executive orders they claim to hate so towns and businesses can’t mandate masks I don’t see you outraged when they are caught wearing one ? Because it’s a freedom issue … just say it

PS if your kids in a private school why does the mask mandated apply? My understanding it’s a private school thing same for vaccines
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you know how it works...when democrats pass laws it's forever...no questions...when republicans pass laws it's just till democrats can find away around them...and if democrats say "it's a law" it's a law even if noone actually passed a law...

why don't you see the BIG Picture????:laugha:

you said dems wear the masks, republicans don’t. i disproved that. instead of saying i have a point, you say my examples “are not the same” yet naturally you don’t say why they’re not the same.

our catholic schools are following state mandates. i don’t tell my kids not to wear them, i’m not even saying i’m opposed to them wearing them ( there are experts on both sides, but zero consensus), just asking an obvious question, which has every single one of you twisted in knots because even you know, as TDF said, it’s a glaring double standard, but you can’t say it out loud, because you are a slave to liberalism and are incapable of criticizing it.

You “feeling the spirit” yet?
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I wore mine into Aldi's yesterday.....

yup, most of these schools are following state guidance .... I'm coaching by a private school, if another school has a vax policy we have to abide by that whether home or away....most of the policy is actually guided by fear of lawsuits more than anything

"In the past week, Ohio saw a 44% increase in cases among school-aged children..

..[S]chool districts where masks are optional have seen a 54% week-over-week increase in cases, compared to a 34% spike in districts with mask requirements"
But………someone, somewhere did something 🦜💩
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i don’t care about case counts, i care how many kids are actually sick.

Pete, if you could live as before and get covid but have no symptoms, or wear a mask and live in a light version of isolation and not have covid, which would you prefer? Please tell me which you’d prefer?

i don’t see why Case counts matter. It’s a highly contagious virus ( with a low mortality rate except among seniors and those with co morbidities who must be protected), that isn’t going away anytime soon. Most of us are going to get it at some point. It all points to something we have to live with for a long time, like the flu. There is absolutely zero reason to believe that it’s going to be eradicated. that’s not happens with viruses, except smallpox i guess.

There’s also a lot of evidence to suggest ( and not much to refute) that those who had covid and now have natural antibodies, are several times better protected against covid, than those with antibodies from the vaccine. Meaning, there’s a potential big upside to getting covid, especially if like the overwhelming majority of folks, it doesn’t make you too sick.

Connecticut College, where two of
my brothers went, has a 100% vaccination rate. and they test students regularly. they’re seeing a lot of positive tests ( kids aren’t getting sick though ), so they locked down, cancelled sports, all classes are remote, cafeterias are grab and go. If a 100% vaccination rate doesn’t prevent a complete lockdown, what’s the point?

I don’t know that case counts are the thing to focus on. lots of us have had it and never knew it.




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maybe the schools with the higher increase were in districts with more density....

that argument is limited to situations where it defends liberalism. didn’t you get the memo?
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Case counts matter for drastic changes, for control they make little difference.

The pandemic’s 2nd wrongest commentator continues to just be clueless.

CLEVELAND, Ohio — Ohio is experiencing a surge of pediatric COVID-19 cases that puts it among the worst states for numbers of kids hospitalized with the illness.

Ohio has seen 466 hospitalized children with COVID-19 since July 1, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. There were 170 kids hospitalized for the illness during the first half of September alone in the state.

Nine children have died of COVID-19 in Ohio, according to state records.


Among the 10 most populous U.S. states, Ohio ranks fifth for hospitalized children with COVID-19 since July 1, according to HHS data. Number one is Florida with 3,198, followed by Texas (2,832), Georgia (1,883) and California (669).

There has been a definite, and fast, uptick in the number of very sick children with COVID-19 admitted to University Hospitals Rainbow Babies and Children’s Hospital, said Rainbow pediatric infectious disease specialist Dr. Amy Edwards.
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Jim your version of disproven is showing. 3 examples against thousands of examples and as usual calling them equal?

And your mask gripe should be with your school not the emmys ? Did you ask the Dioceses about why the emmys weren’t wearing masks and they were ? What did they say?
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how many democrats at the emmys weren’t wearing masks?


you can show me thousands of examples of elected republicans who are defying their own mask mandates that they thruway on the rest of us? or thousands of random citizens? if you want to see thousands of liberal citizens violating covid protocols, just look at any photos or videos of the BLM riots this summer. thousands of people violating social
distancing and mask mandates.

Let me save you the trouble, I’ll
just respond for you.

Jim that’s not the same thing, because it doesn’t count when democrats behave badly, only when republicans do it.
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The Health Dept. says yes, the current mandate in L.A. requires everyone to wear a mask indoors -- whether vaccinated or unvaccinated -- but it also says exceptions are made for film, TV and music productions.

The county says the Emmy Awards qualify as a TV production, and all the people appearing on the show are considered performers ... so masks were not a must for attendees.

Additionally, the Dept. of Health says there were extra safety modifications in place for the event. Yes, everyone had to be fully vaxxed ... but they also had to have a verified negative COVID test within 48 hours of the show. Crew members were either fully vaccinated or recently tested as well.

Overall, the Public Health office says the Emmys reached out to share its safety protocols and they "exceeded the baseline requirements for television and film productions."

well of course....and "outside" but inside a hermetically sealed tent is not "indoors" :huh:

No, it doesn't

Reading Comprehension apparently is not a requirement to be the pandemic’s 2nd wrongest commentator:huh:

"the current mandate in L.A. requires everyone to wear a mask indoors -- whether vaccinated or unvaccinated -- but it also says exceptions are made for film, TV and music productions."

Clearly, the people at the Emmys were not breaking the law. That doesn't mean it makes any sense.

Pete, why do people in restaurants, and kid sin schools (vaccinated or not, negative test or not) have to wear masks, but people at the Emmys don't? What's the logic behind that law? Does the virus differentiate between vaccinated restaurant waiters and vaccinated TV producers? Is the virus deterred by having a Screen Actors Guild card?

Or is it because Hollywood is made up of very rich and politically well-connected folks?

In the summer of 2020, I couldn't go to a catholic mass. But I would be allowed to go to a BLM rally, stand shoulder to shoulder with maskless people screaming for dead cops. That was the law.

Why doesn't Bidens vaccine mandate apply to Congress (it doesn't, I recently learned)? Why do private sector workers have a mandate, but not members of Congress? Is that not a fair question to ask? The military is saying they're going to boot people who aren't vaccinated, but members of congress face no penalty?

I'm guessing the number of unvaccinated congressmen is very low, but again, what's the logic? Because I don't see it.

Same with welfare recipients, the vaccine mandate won't apply to them. If the goal is to vaccinate as many Americans as possible, why not have the mandate apply to welfare recipients?

A welfare recipient can refuse the vaccine and continue to collect his welfare. But a Navy SEAL who refuses the vaccine will be fired.

That's just dripping with common sense.

Poor victim, probably as worried about that thin blue line as the guys in the Capitol on Jan 6th.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbRwCcqur8I

Pete -

"Or is it because Hollywood is made up of very rich and politically well-connected folks?

That would be a question for the LA county board of health


OK. So any direct question which you can't answer honestly without making democrats look foolish, you punt on.

In addition to being the only person here to be banned from starting threads, and the only person here I've seen go after children, you're also a coward.

TDF got it right. You couldn't bring yourself to try to respond.

When your beliefs are so flimsy that they require you to hide under your bed in the face of such a simple question, what does that say about your beliefs? Nothing good.

Quite the resume you've accumulated here, yessir

You apparently have no idea of what powers the President has, do you.

100% of the democrats in both houses are vaccinated.
Not sure if the Republicans will tell, it might be political suicide.

Here's the list of REQUIRED vaccines for Central Command, every one has different requirements.
And you get booted for not complying.

Anthrax
Schedule: 0,4w,6,12,18m + annual booster
Route: Intramuscular
Dose: 0.5ml
Required for 15 or more days in theater.
Chickenpox
Schedule: 0, 4-8w (2 dose) or + serologic testing
Route: Subcutaneous
Dose: 0.5ml
Required. Documentation must include one of the following: Born before 1980, history of disease, sufficient varicella titer, or administration of vaccine.
Hepatitis A
Schedule: 0, 6m (2 dose) or + serologic testing
Route: Intramuscular
Dose: 1-18 years, 0.5ml; >=19 years, 1 ml; Twinrix >=18 years, 1ml
Required.
Hepatitis B
Schedule: Engerix-B, Recombivax, Twinrix: 0,1,6m (3 dose)or Heplisav-B: 0,1m (2 dose) or + serologic testing
Route: Intramuscular
Dose: Engerix-B or Recombivax: 0-19 years, 0.5ml; >=20 years, 1 ml; Twinrix >=18 years, 1ml; Heplisav-B >=18 years, 0.5mL
Required.
Influenza - Seasonal
Schedule: 1 dose annually
Route: Intramuscular, Intranasal
Dose: IM 0.5ml; Intranasal 0.2ml
Required.
M-M-R
Schedule: 2 lifetime doses or + serologic testing
Route: Subcutaneous
Dose: 0.5ml
Required. Documentation must include one of the following: Born before 1957, effective immunity by titer, or administration of two lifetime doses.
Pneumococcal
Schedule: High risk: 1 dose, Asplenic Only: 1 dose + 1 time booster if 5 yrs or greater since 1st dose
Route: Subcutaneous or Intramuscular
Dose: 0.5ml
Required for high risk health conditions per ACIP.
Polio
Schedule: 1 dose as adult
Route: Subcutaneous or Intramuscular
Dose: 0.5ml
For individuals traveling for > 4 weeks, vaccination required to be administered within 12 months of DEPARTURE FROM Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Rabies
Schedule: Pre-Exposure: 0,7,(21 or 28d) Booster: 2-5 yr (when titer drops >1:5)
Route: Intramuscular
Dose: 1ml
Required for personnel at high risk for exposure IAW Service-Specific guidelines.
Tdap
Schedule: 1 lifetime dose of Tdap, Td boosters every 10 yrs. For adults who previously have not received a dose of Tdap, 1 dose should be given regardless of interval since last tetanus vaccine.
Route: Intramuscular (Tdap, Td, Tetanus Toxoid)
Dose: 0.5ml (Tdap, Td, Tetanus Toxoid)
Required.
Typhoid
Schedule: Injectable: every 2 yr; Oral: every 5 yr
Route: Intramuscular or Oral
Dose: IM 0.5ml; Oral, 4 capsules (day 1,3,5,7)
Required.

"L.A. requires everyone to wear a mask indoors -- whether vaccinated or unvaccinated -- but it also says exceptions are made for film, TV and music productions.

The county says the Emmy Awards qualify as a TV production, and all the people appearing on the show are considered performers ... so masks were not a must for attendees."


guess they could have just done it in the auditorium as usual then... and skipped the tent

if I lived in LA I'd identify as a "performer" whenever I head indoors without a mask

You are the toughest guy behind a keyboard, aren't you?

My beliefs are that you are responsible for yourself and regardless of what some agency says, you need to do what is best for you and not hurt others.

You are a poor little insecure boy, if your self-worth is determined by someone else's answer on the internet.

this is hilarious coming from you...I bet a bunch of you would make a puddle at you feet if you had to actually say some of this stuff in person

Well, if they did it indoors then they possibly would not have "exceeded the baseline requirements for television and film productions."

Hmmm.........

You don't know me, do you?

Executive Orders only cover the Executive Branch Jim.

He already answered your question.

now I'm terrified:rotf2:

no, and neither did you as you share the same cowardice.

if i ask the logic behind it, you can’t answer by saying “it’s the law”, There are laws that are devoid of logic. because not that long ago it was also in keeping with the law when a bus driver told Rosa Parks to get her black azz to the back of the bus. Back then, if i asked you why that was OK, I presume
you would have just said “because it’s the law”, especially because that law was also codified by the party you have declared yourself a concubine to.
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Might I suggest a Midol, I’ve heard they can offer some relief.
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