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Pete F. 10-14-2021 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1215776)
Politico confirmed the emails are genuine. i don’t know what you’re talking about, neither does anyone else.


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No, What Politico said is: "While at least some of the laptop material is genuine, it remains possible that fake material is mixed in."

The article also says lots of things, including this: "In the end, Trump’s efforts backfired. He was caught pressuring Ukraine’s president to investigate the Bidens while his administration withheld military aid from the country. That gambit provoked Trump’s impeachment, rather than Biden’s downfall."

Jim in CT 10-14-2021 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1215783)
No, What Politico said is: "While at least some of the laptop material is genuine, it remains possible that fake material is mixed in."

The article also says lots of things, including this: "In the end, Trump’s efforts backfired. He was caught pressuring Ukraine’s president to investigate the Bidens while his administration withheld military aid from the country. That gambit provoked Trump’s impeachment, rather than Biden’s downfall."

in other words politico confirmed some of the emails and offered exactly to evidence that anything was fake.

wayne said there was no evidence the emails were genuine.

politico debunked that.

it’s possible Elvis did it.
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Pete F. 10-14-2021 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1215784)
in other words politico confirmed some of the emails and offered exactly to evidence that anything was fake.

wayne said there was no evidence the emails were genuine.

politico debunked that.

it’s possible Elvis did it.
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As you said about the Mueller report
No evidence
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spence 10-14-2021 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1215784)
in other words politico confirmed some of the emails and offered exactly to evidence that anything was fake.

How would they prove emails aren't fake without evidence?

Still, emails don't prove anything.

Jim in CT 10-14-2021 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1215800)
How would they prove emails aren't fake without evidence?

Still, emails don't prove anything.

i don’t know, but Politico confirmed some of the emails, and admitted there was no proof that any were fake.
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wdmso 10-15-2021 09:39 AM

My 2 post were about gas prices and how the system works . And Jim focus is on emails or a email . That somehow still can’t b produced by those insisting that they exist they run. With this “ The Hunter story was neutralized to prevent Mr. Trump from winning re-election. Fair reporting of the graft and low behavior on full display in Hunter’s laptop could have kept Mr. Trump in office.” Hunter wasn’t running for POTUS that seems to be the part the right missed
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Jim in CT 10-15-2021 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1215825)
My 2 post were about gas prices and how the system works . And Jim focus is on emails or a email . That somehow still can’t b produced by those insisting that they exist they run. With this “ The Hunter story was neutralized to prevent Mr. Trump from winning re-election. Fair reporting of the graft and low behavior on full display in Hunter’s laptop could have kept Mr. Trump in office.” Hunter wasn’t running for POTUS that seems to be the part the right missed
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my focus is the price of a barrel of oil. Flirted with $85 today. administration saying home heating bills will be as much as 50% higher this winter.

but you’ll tell us that’s a good thing and biden deserves the credit, or it’s a bad thing and it’s Trumps fault.
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wdmso 10-15-2021 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1215826)
my focus is the price of a barrel of oil. Flirted with $85 today. administration saying home heating bills will be as much as 50% higher this winter.

but you’ll tell us that’s a good thing and biden deserves the credit, or it’s a bad thing and it’s Trumps fault.
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no one said it was a good thing but Republicans love to praise capitalism and the Free market until
The prices go up then they want government control of industry and price controls all while yelling accusing Democratic’s of socialism and communism .

While their dear leaders attack democracy and America’s institutions and they cheer from the sidelines
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Jim in CT 10-15-2021 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1215827)
no one said it was a good thing but Republicans love to praise capitalism and the Free market until
The prices go up then they want government control of industry and price controls all while yelling accusing Democratic’s of socialism and communism .

While their dear leaders attack democracy and America’s institutions and they cheer from the sidelines
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we don’t want government control ( completely wrong again). we want the government to allow us to tap into the oil we have here. that’s not wanting “more government control.”

liberals love to make it sound like conservatives should never want the government to do anything. always painting a stupid extreme picture because you know you can’t respond to the reality.

a stupid post dripping with ignorance. just total
ignorance.
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scottw 10-15-2021 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1215828)

we don’t want government control ( completely wrong again).

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Don’t know where he gets his material 🤡
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Jim in CT 10-15-2021 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1215836)
Don’t know where he gets his material 🤡
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when i say the Biden administration should allow us to exploit our natural resources, he says i’m demanding more government control.
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The Dad Fisherman 10-15-2021 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1215836)
Don’t know where he gets his material 🤡
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https://media3.giphy.com/media/3oEjI...rF60/giphy.gif
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wdmso 10-15-2021 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1215837)
when i say the Biden administration should allow us to exploit our natural resources, he says i’m demanding more government control.
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Jim for the hundredth time the oil and gas can produce as much as they want no one not even Biden can stop them or force them to produce more. They are private companies…. Stop making crap up your delusional .. your demanding government intervention in private business and markets

Please tell us how Biden reduce oil production in the US .. oh wait you can’t because it never happened
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Jim in CT 10-15-2021 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1215856)
Jim for the hundredth time the oil and gas can produce as much as they want no one not even Biden can stop them or force them to produce more. They are private companies…. Stop making crap up your delusional .. your demanding government intervention in private business and markets

Please tell us how Biden reduce oil production in the US .. oh wait you can’t because it never happened
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ok. can you first tell us which republicans said that oil is at an all time high? you said that, i keep
asking for support.

an article saying that as you said, the moratorium wouldn’t hurt production for awhile. but also saying that the actual and perceived actions that suggest biden doesn’t want to be in the oil
production business, would have an effect.

oil is north of $80. that’s a high price, very high. why aren’t we producing what we were producing a couple of years ago?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/insidec...c-lands/%3famp

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wdmso 10-16-2021 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1215860)
ok. can you first tell us which republicans said that oil is at an all time high? you said that, i keep
asking for support.

an article saying that as you said, the moratorium wouldn’t hurt production for awhile. but also saying that the actual and perceived actions that suggest biden doesn’t want to be in the oil
production business, would have an effect.

oil is north of $80. that’s a high price, very high. why aren’t we producing what we were producing a couple of years ago?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/insidec...c-lands/%3famp

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We are producing what we did a few years ago . 10.09 .20 we produced 10.725 million barrels a day 10.08.21 we produced 11.5 million barrels a day
And our imports same dates 5.3 and
11.4 million barrels a day
9.2million gallons and 2021 9.6
Gas production same dates
https://www.eia.gov/petroleum/weekly/

On October 13, 2021, the Brent crude oil price (the most relevant crude oil price in determining U.S. petroleum product prices) was $83 per barrel (b), a 57% increase from last winter’s average, which contributes to the higher expected propane and heating oil retail prices. Wholesale prices of crude oil have risen because petroleum demand has increased faster than supply, leading to falling inventories (in the case of crude oil and several petroleum products) and propane inventories that have increased at slower rates than historical averages. We expect the retail price of propane in the United States will average $3.10 per gallon (gal) this winter (49% higher than last winter) and the price of heating oil will average $3.39/gal this winter (33% higher than last winter).

https://www.eia.gov/petroleum/weekly/

Jim all Republicans are trying to suggest these fuel increase are not normal or it’s a market condition . But some how caused by Biden .. your the biggest cheerleader in that message

Analysis | The bogus GOP claim that Biden is responsible for higher gasoline prices
how the right blames biden for the price of gas from www.washingtonpost.com
Analysis | The bogus GOP claim that Biden is responsible for higher gasoline prices

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier...gh-gas-prices/

No article of mine has generated more views and more reader feedback than my piece in March of this year: Who Is To Blame For Rising Gasoline Prices? At present, there are nearly 900,000 views, and I continue to get reader feedback over this article on a weekly basis.

The feedback is invariably from men who are angry that Joe Biden is in the White House and it is along the lines of “I bet you feel stupid now” or “Even an idiot can see that Biden is the one who drove up gasoline prices.”

No, the reason oil and gasoline prices rose is that the economy started to open back up from the Covid-19 shutdowns. Those shutdowns had negatively impacted a couple of million barrels of U.S. oil supplies, and those supplies were slow to bounce back once the economy opened back up. That’s why we have soaring oil and gasoline prices.

Keep in mind that the entire world has experienced this. Do people honestly believe that cancellation of the Keystone XL pipeline drove up gasoline prices in Tokyo? Further, this price rise has taken place across most commodities. We have seen soaring lumber prices, base metals prices, cotton, oats, sugar — all primarily associated with the Covid-19 impacts on the economy.

But, I will reiterate something I pointed out earlier this year. Either Biden is driving up gasoline prices, which helps the U.S. oil industry, or Biden’s policies have nothing to do with higher gasoline prices, and thus his policies are doing nothing to help the U.S. oil industry.

It is in fact the latter. Despite the sharp rise in the price of gasoline this year, Biden deserves neither the credit nor the blame

Jim please stop pounding a square peg in a round hole . Not sure how much factual information is required for to accept the Truth .

Trump claims credit for cheap gas. Experts say it's not so simple.
Snake oil sales man and the right runs with it …. Believing Trump dismissing the experts.. this is the new GOP they are their own expert’s
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Jim in CT 10-16-2021 09:04 AM

wdmso that was a lengthy dodge.

you said republicans are claiming prices are at an all time high. All i did, was ask you to clarify who said that.

you won’t tell us who you heard say that, because you never heard any influential republican say that. you lied. but you can’t admit you lied, either.

we are producing a lot less than we were a few years ago ( i posted annual us production). with oil above $80 a barrel, the financial incentive is there to produce as much as we possibly can. but we aren’t.
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spence 10-16-2021 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1215880)
you said republicans are claiming prices are at an all time high. All i did, was ask you to clarify who said that.
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This summer most of the prominent republicans were saying it. Use the google.

Jim in CT 10-16-2021 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1215909)
This summer most of the prominent republicans were saying it. Use the google.

show me one who said that $75 a barrel
was an all time high.
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spence 10-16-2021 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1215910)
show me one who said that $75 a barrel
was an all time high.
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Don't know about that but plenty were directly blaming Biden.

Jim in CT 10-16-2021 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1215915)
Don't know about that but plenty were directly blaming Biden.

wdmso said that the gop was claiming it’s at an all
time high.
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wdmso 10-16-2021 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1215916)
wdmso said that the gop was claiming it’s at an all
time high.
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Here’s my quote Jim

And of course the right is trying to suggest these gas prices have never happened before

SUGGEST do you understand what that means like you suggesting it’s all Biden’s fault .. oh wait that’s not a suggestion is it
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Jim in CT 10-16-2021 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1215927)
Here’s my quote Jim

And of course the right is trying to suggest these gas prices have never happened before

SUGGEST do you understand what that means like you suggesting it’s all Biden’s fault .. oh wait that’s not a suggestion is it
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for the tenth time, who in the right is suggesting that gas has never been at $85 a barrel before? no one said that.

it’s a lot higher than it was not long ago. much of that has nothing to do with biden. i believe some of it does.
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wdmso 10-16-2021 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1215880)
wdmso that was a lengthy dodge.

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Now facts are a dodge classic

Here’s another what I posted

And of course the right is trying to suggest these gas prices have never happened before..

Please show me where I said Highest you just keep changing what I said

From Webster
Suggestion
cause one to think that (something) exists or is the case.
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Jim in CT 10-16-2021 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1215930)
Now facts are a dodge classic

Here’s another what I posted

And of course the right is trying to suggest these gas prices have never happened before..

Please show me where I said Highest you just keep changing what I said

From Webster
Suggestion
cause one to think that (something) exists or is the case.
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so when you said “prices have never been here”, you didn’t mean the prices were the highest ever?

so you meant the lowest ever? because that’s even more stupid.
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Jim in CT 10-16-2021 07:28 PM

wayne, show me where multiple prominent republicans with real influence who speak for the right, recently said that oil prices have never been here before, and i’ll send you $100 cash in the mail.

Oil was $125 a barrel a few years ago ( and we’re headed there again). you’d have to be a world class moron to say we’ve never had these oil prices before. i’d like to know who said that, so that i know never, ever to listen to that person.

but obviously i think you made it up.
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wdmso 10-16-2021 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1215936)
wayne, show me where multiple prominent republicans with real influence who speak for the right, recently said that oil prices have never been here before, and i’ll send you $100 cash in the mail.

Oil was $125 a barrel a few years ago ( and we’re headed there again). you’d have to be a world class moron to say we’ve never had these oil prices before. i’d like to know who said that, so that i know never, ever to listen to that person.

but obviously i think you made it up.
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Your just beyond ignorant. I hate to be so rude and blunt.. but your worth it

Enjoy your singularly myopic vision of the world
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Jim in CT 10-16-2021 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1215937)
Your just beyond ignorant. I hate to be so rude and blunt.. but your worth it

Enjoy your singularly myopic vision of the world
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so that means you can’t provide any suooort for your accusation. and i can keep my $100?

republicans do enough stupid things where you don’t have to make stuff up out of thin air.
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scottw 10-17-2021 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1215937)

but your worth it

Enjoy your singularly myopic vision of the world

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according to the experts and probably some scientists.....

SUCCESS- The 11 extremely common grammar mistakes that make people cringe—and make you look less smart:

Word experts
Published Wed, Mar 24 2021

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/24/comm...d-experts.html

wdmso 10-17-2021 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1215939)
so that means you can’t provide any suooort for your accusation. and i can keep my $100?

republicans do enough stupid things where you don’t have to make stuff up out of thin air.
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Jim the only person making stuff is you . Keep your 100 and I suggest use for counseling..

And again learn what suggest means when used in a sentence
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Jim in CT 10-17-2021 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1215952)
Jim the only person making stuff is you . Keep your 100 and I suggest use for counseling..

And again learn what suggest means when used in a sentence
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who suggested we’ve never seen these oil
prices before?

you’re going to amazing lengths to avoid answering.
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wdmso 10-17-2021 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1215948)
according to the experts and probably some scientists.....

SUCCESS- The 11 extremely common grammar mistakes that make people cringe—and make you look less smart:

Word experts
Published Wed, Mar 24 2021

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/24/comm...d-experts.html

Policing my grammar Scott is you more likely trying to show us your intellectual superiority.. but whatever you need to feel big and make it thru the day :kewl:

Got Stripers 10-17-2021 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1215955)
Policing my grammar Scott is you more likely trying to show us your intellectual superiority.. but whatever you need to feel big and make it thru the day :kewl:

Yup he is a peace of work, grammar police is a high aspiration and a lofty goal in life. He mastered snarky and is moving on to higher goals. Left one word in this post for him to have fun with.

wdmso 10-17-2021 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1215954)
who suggested we’ve never seen these oil
prices before?

you’re going to amazing lengths to avoid answering.
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Jim your the most desperate person I've dealt with in a while .. its beyond childness .. looking for a answer to a question you made up.

Gas Price Wars Are Back and More Incoherent Than Ever
The latest front in the GOP’s misinformation war exposes the chaotic nature of the country’s relationship with gasoline.

Gas prices in the United States are rising. “Since President Biden took office, average gas prices are up more than 50 cents a gallon,” Florida Senator Rick Scott proclaimed in a written statement last week.

So jim if i use your Logic (lack of it I ) I should think Scott is lying and ask him show me where this has never happened Before ? because he never said it hadn't happened?


tell me he is not suggesting like you ! that this is All Bidens fault (no historical context attached )

Just like inflation the port issues the rise in food and gas prices

all the experts tell us it's because of the opening of the economy covid in Asia disrupting the supply trains and increase in demand worldwide

But republicans suggest its all Bidens fault

I will be waiting for you to show me a republican who isn't Blaming Biden and tells his supporters the Truth on what actually happening

you can't because the suggestion is more powerful than the truth and a suggestion is hard to call a lie ... except for you that is

Jim in CT 10-17-2021 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1215958)
Jim your the most desperate person I've dealt with in a while .. its beyond childness .. looking for a answer to a question you made up.

Gas Price Wars Are Back and More Incoherent Than Ever
The latest front in the GOP’s misinformation war exposes the chaotic nature of the country’s relationship with gasoline.

Gas prices in the United States are rising. “Since President Biden took office, average gas prices are up more than 50 cents a gallon,” Florida Senator Rick Scott proclaimed in a written statement last week.

So jim if i use your Logic (lack of it I ) I should think Scott is lying and ask him show me where this has never happened Before ? because he never said it hadn't happened?


tell me he is not suggesting like you ! that this is All Bidens fault (no historical context attached )

Just like inflation the port issues the rise in food and gas prices

all the experts tell us it's because of the opening of the economy covid in Asia disrupting the supply trains and increase in demand worldwide

But republicans suggest its all Bidens fault

I will be waiting for you to show me a republican who isn't Blaming Biden and tells his supporters the Truth on what actually happening

you can't because the suggestion is more powerful than the truth and a suggestion is hard to call a lie ... except for you that is

saying gas prices are increasing, and saying gas prices have never been at this level, are two different statements.

so because biden is president, we shouldn’t be commenting on the multiple challenges we are facing?

in 2008 the subprime mortgages crashed the economy. bush was president. everyone on the left said it was his fault, even though he obviously didn’t tell anyone to buy more house than they could afford, and it was bill
clinton and a republican congress who signed the law allowing banks to invest deep in things like fishy, mortgage-backed derivatives. but Bush was blamed by the entire left.

Right or wrong, the sitting potus tends to get credit/blame for what happens on his watch. as i said, no matter who was potus, oil
prices had to go up when global demand started increasing again. that’s not remotely his fault. but his anti-fossil fuel positions, as well as the belief that the middle east is less likely to stabilize with a weak-minded alzheimer’s patient as potus, will likely also lead to increases in oil.

i didn’t invent any of that. things have always been that way, and you don’t quarrel with it when it helps your side.

why would i be desperate? biden’s numbers are tanking, and i’m doing insane with the oil investments i msde. everything is good here.

you blatantly lied about what republicans are suggesting, and i kept calling you out in it. that’s not desperation, it’s sport.

we can’t know what oil prices would be if trump had won. what we know is that biden is potus, and oil
prices are soaring. people aren’t driving like we used to, so maybe that’s not a huge deal to many ( again, it’s hugely beneficial
to me). broad inflation that’s in the high single digits, will be noticed.

which is also not all his fault. both parties have been pumping so much cash into the economy, and inflation had been so low for so long, meaningful inflation was inevitable at some point. but it happened on his watch, and he’s also contributing to it with the massive spending he supports.

politics is a tough game. he’s a sitting president who is dealing with multiple challenges at the moment. and he’s a guy who won not because america likes his policies, but rather he won because we hated the previous potus personally. biden can no longer succeed just by saying “i’m not trump”, he’s standing on his own now, we see him clearly
for what he is, and people aren’t all
that thrilled about what they see.
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scottw 10-17-2021 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1215958)

Jim your the most desperate person I've dealt with in a while .. its beyond childness ..

Is “childness” even a word?
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scottw 10-17-2021 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1215955)
Policing my grammar Scott is you more likely trying to show us your intellectual superiority.. but whatever you need to feel big and make it thru the day :kewl:

Not really. Just trying to help you not sound less smart….unless you want to sound less smart?
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scottw 10-17-2021 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1215957)
Yup he is a peace of work, grammar police is a high aspiration and a lofty goal in life. He mastered snarky and is moving on to higher goals. Left one word in this post for him to have fun with.

You do a fabulous job sounding less smart…keep up the good work
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