Yes GA passed a new law. The new (current) law, allows MORE days of early voting than Bidens state of Deleware, and has the same voter ID requirements that MN has. But no one is complaining about those states. Because everything is always OK when democrats do it, only a problem when Republicans do it.

"do all you can to prevent them from voting you're just plain sleazy"

For the 3rd time (sorry if you responded), why isn't is "sleazy" for CT to require that we show an id to vote? Why is it only "sleazy" to you, when republicans suggest it?

I want everyone to vote. Just prove who you are. We all have ids today. Can't do much without one.

" have no intention of dodging questions but once you start responding to every question that Jim wants you're on page 20.
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So you have the time to insult me for asking questions, but not the time to simply answer the question.

Connecticut is as blue as it gets, and you cannot vote without showing a picture id. But you won't call Connecticut sleazy.

Sincere question, what's a drop box? People just drop off a ballot? No one checks who they are? If that's what they are, there should be zero drop boxes. But I think it's a good idea to have more polling places. No one should have to wait more than an hour to vote.

That's what it looks like to answer a question. You asked a good and fair question, and I answered it directly.

What would it take, for you to show me the same courtesy?

You could compare one state to another all you want but the fact of the matter is Georgia is changing their laws to make it harder for people to vote. It has nothing to do with fraud. The INTENT is to limit people's ability to vote.

If you think that's an insult stop your whining. You can take that as an insult I guess.
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Because we've answered this question dozens of times why some people have a hard time getting IDs. Go back and search. Why do we need to discuss the same thing over and over and over again because Jim wants to talk about it and if the other person doesn't want to engage with Jim then Jim thinks their duc king the question when in fact nobody is interested in going back and forth again and again and again and again with you. Even answering it one more time is ridiculous because next time you bring up the same issue you're going to say the same thing over and over and over again and will ask the person to just answer it one more time.
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If the intent is to limit peoples ability to vote, then it would limit the ability of potentially everyone in Georgia to vote since it applies to all the counties in Georgia not just to Fulton, and to all Republicans as well as Dems in Fulton and the other counties. Drop boxes were a Covid emergency program, not something that was meant to be forever. Lowering the number of drop boxes may be less convenient for some, but does not limit the ability to vote. Making it more and more convenient can lead to making it easier for shenanigans. The most reliable method is in person voting with ID. If we expand the number of days or weeks to vote, and we create more polling places and more hours in the day to vote, that should take care the problem of long lines and ability to easily walk to a voting location, and would make in person voting more convenient.

I prefer the most reliable way to the most convenient. I believe voting is too important (one of the most important things in a democratic system) to settle for convenience over reliability. Even if some believe that there is supposedly no evidence of substantial fraud.

And Georgia's voting law has been lied about:

https://news.yahoo.com/setting-recor...164658566.html

why isn’t CTs voter ID requirement racist then?

answer : i have no desire to go back and forth.

it’s not hard to get ids. how do those people do banking, go to the doctor, get medicine, etc? if there are a meaningful number of people who are that disenfranchised ( and that’s a huge “if”) why do they all of a sudden want to participate in society on election day?

doesn’t pass the common sense test.

you can make a good case about gerrymandering and closing polling places. but a huge majority of americans favor voter ID laws. are they all racist?
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actually, Jim asked a question about a current topic to begin the thread and you reflexively began vomiting the same false talking points that you've vomited over and over sooooo....maybe bring some new material

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Since the right to vote is prob. the most important thing we can do as a citizen, Biden prob. got fed up w/states trying to prevent citizens from voting by passing voting restrictions in an attempt to prevent people from voting (Intent).

It is crazy to pass a law that says you cannot give someone in line waiting to vote a bottle of water. How about opening (instead of closing) more voting places so people don't have to wait in line so long that they actually get hungry/thirsty.




"REPUBLICANS DON'T WANT BLACK PEOPLE TO DRINK WATER!!!!!"RACISTS!!!!!


really???

have you noticed that the same people that accuse of others of authoritarianism and fascism and various other isms are the ones constantly trying to consolidate and centralize power and control of virtually every aspect of life in Washington where unaccountable agencies and mega corporations and media can keep everyone in line and told what to think?....or else

“projecting” - when those who want more federal government take over, accuse those who want more personal liberty, of being authoritarian.

it sounds great. But it doesn’t exactly make sense.
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National. Socialism. That has a certain ring to it but I can't put my finger on it...

Steve Bannon: “But the oligarchs’ day is coming. Remember, we’re going to turn all the social media companies into public utilities — public utilities, and get like a 7% return … and the public has to have a voice in the control of it.”

He’s a nationalist *and* a socialist.
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he’s also irrelevant. conservatives, by and large, don’t want nationalism.

conservatives want less federal control.

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Bannon is not irrelevant.
He’s on the air for three hours every day.
Plenty of Trumplicans follow and believe.
The Gym Jordans, MTGs, Gohmerts, Ghoulianis and Rapey McForeheads are a significant force in the Trumplican Party.
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where is he on the air? on a major network?

he’s relevant to the fringe. not to the mainstream.

pete, most republicans don’t want what he described. i’m sorry if that makes it harder for you to paint us all as marxists. but most of us want less federal intrusion into our lives,,not more. That’s the truth whether you like it or not.

the left wants bigger federal government, the right wants smaller federal government. That’s the way it is, regardless of your hilarious nicknames for all of them.
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ok...that was pretty funny,,,,,,:uhuh:

Plenty of the Trumplicans think that they deserve control of the government.

That’s why the people who forged the election documents and submitted them to the National Archives not only were stupid enough to think this would work, they actually filmed themselves signing the forgery.

No, stupidity is not a defense.
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each side thinks they deserve control. it’s what they aspire to do with it. jeez.
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National Socialism was the doctrine of the NAZI party. You, and others on this forum have claimed that the NAZIs were "conservatives." Here, you are implying they were socialists. Which is it?

Here, you imply that Bannon is a socialist because he wants to turn social media companies into public utilities. But public utilities are not necessarily government owned. They can also be privately owned. And you have claimed that the US is not socialist. Even though we have lots of public utilities. And you seem to be in favor of more and more government regulation and control of business and healthcare. So which is it? Are we socialist or capitalist?

Bannon, BTW, is a capitalist--as in what he considers "enlightened capitalism." He is against crony capitalism and the Ayn Rand form of capitalism. He wants to deconstruct the administrative state (the semi-socialistic grip on our lives by unelected bureaucrats). And he is virulently against various forms of 20th century authoritarianism. His 2004 documentary film shows the evils of Bolshevism, Communism, Nazism, and Fascism. He is pro-Western Civilization--particularly the Judeo-Christian West.

Now you can extoll the virtues of Viktor Orban, Putin and Bolsonaro
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After not being able to clarify if you believe having public utilities makes a country sorcialist, or whether you believe NAZIS were socialist or believe they were conservative, are you admitting that being a capitalist is a virtue?

I don't know when we started equating Nazis with conservatives, but it's absurd. They wanted massive, total, federal control of peoples lives. That does sound somewhat like one of the two American political parties, but it ain't the conservatives.

Sorry, but Bannon, Orban, Putin and Bolsonaro are not my idea of good examples of capitalists
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Your opinions are not golden. Nor have I said those guys were good capitalists. Nor did I say Bannon is a good capitalist. I merely pointed out that he is a capitalist, not a NAZI socialist as you were spouting.

Did I say Nazi?
Or did you?

Perhaps you could apply that same logic to America First as being anti Semitic, works just as well
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America First includes all the Semites in it as Americans First. It does not include eradicating them.

History only counts when you want it to.
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More fortune cookie wisdom by Pete F.

Some people like fortune cookies, others baloney
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If he’s irrelevant why are so many Trumplicans listening to him

Bannon this morning says the purpose of the Trump rally in AZ today is to pressure the AZ legis to decertify the 2020 Biden electors, then PA, WI, and GA will follow suit and make Biden an illegitimate president in the minds of swing voters heading into the 2022 elections.

You cannot interpret this as anything but a declaration of war on democracy. We are in the endgame. We can resurrect democracy or lose it forever.
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Your fortune cookie wisdom is baloney.

Legitimate pressure is not a war on democracy. The "plan," according to the planners, was within the bounds of the Constitution, therefore legitimate.

As an expert in baloney, You would know
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So the big lie is legitimate pressure, according to the planners and you.
Just the thing someone who kept Mein Kampf on his nightstand would claim.
Because as long as you achieve your goal the means are justifiable.
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You're admitting that I know that your stuff is baloney?

Never read Mein Kampf. Don't remember ever actually seeing a copy of it. No doubt, Bannon, et. al., believe that the big lie is the accusation that they're lying.

And I'm not making a claim either way. I don't positively know.

Since they have never succeeded in any court action, are you claiming that people should just believe them based on…….
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I haven't read their plan in depth. Just the sketchy bits in interviews. From my limited understanding, it wasn't based on nor relied on court decisions. And it is totally mute now because the election was certified and had to be carried out before certification. And, because the Court refused to hear arguments on the validity of the election, most of the evidence compiled by pro-Trumpers has not been thoroughly examined and discussed in corporate media, so has basically been hidden from public scrutiny, and has been referred to as baseless conspiracy in any mention of it.

So, in that respect, there is nothing solid for me to believe or disbelieve.

What I do believe is that, after the Robert Mueller investigation, I lost any trust I had in our security agencies. The Mantra was always that Trump was causing us to lose confidence in them. But, for me, it was their own actions that destroyed my confidence in them. So I find myself believing that they are more of a problem than the groups they profile and accuse. And the Democrats duplicity in their alliance with them in calling for the special counsel investigation and the lies they told to support it, which even more than just my disagreement with their policies, destroyed what confidence I had in the Democrats being honorable in their political opposition.

Like most, I had always considered politics to be dirty. But that investigation took the cake. It was absolutely filthy. And it has not only caused me to lose confidence in the agencies involved, but totally become sick of the whole administrative state including most of its other agencies that I had already was beginning to see as a threat to our constitutional system.

So I don't "just believe them" (Bannon et. al.), I tend to disbelieve the security and intel agencies and the entire administrative state until it is proven to be right--which is a tall order to do for me since they have such a powerful influence, even grip, on the channels that inform us. Which makes those channels of communication as suspect for me as are the administrative and security agencies which they are in bed with.

For people like me, they have lost all credibility. And it is their doing, not Trump's, that is the cause. And the way you have lied and resorted to rhetorical trickery in defense of their treachery, has not helped in restoring any of my faith in them. Rather, it has done the opposite.

Post-inaugural “decertification” of electoral votes to “delegitimate” an incumbent president isn’t a thing. The only approximation is something called “seditious conspiracy,” a federal crime whose twin is treason.
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I don't think this is a word...

You’re wrong
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I figured, like brandon, you could use a win....hope that helps...you're welcome:)