If you listen to Jim repeat what he’s trained to spout, you’ll find that liberals are responsible for racism, slavery, and the Ku Klux Klan. They admire Mussolini and Hitler, and modern liberalism is little different from fascism or, even worse, communism. The mainstream media and academia cannot be trusted because of the pervasive, totalitarian nature of liberal culture.
And they have had this grand conspiracy going forever.

The Russia investigation is dismissed, from the president on down, as a politicized witch hunt. George Soros supposedly paid $300 to each participant in the “March for Our Lives” in March.
What is less well appreciated by liberals is that the language of conspiracy is often used to justify similar behavior on the right. The Russia investigation is not just a witch hunt, it’s the product of the real scandal, which is Hillary-Russia-Obama-FBI collusion, so we must investigate that. Soros funds paid campus protestors, so Turning Point USA needs millions of dollars from Republican donors to win university elections. The liberal academic establishment prevents conservative voices from getting plum faculty jobs, so the Koch Foundation needs to give millions of dollars to universities with strings very much attached.
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dear plagiarism pete...this would not go over well in college either...

If you listen to Pete spew what he has been taught to spew, you'll hear that democrats are never wring about anything, republicans are never right about anything.

Pete, who supported slavery and Jim Crow, and who fought against it? Can you answer that, please?

"The mainstream media and academia cannot be trusted because of the pervasive, totalitarian nature of liberal cult"

What I've said, is that the media and academia have a liberal bias. I'm not saying that they can never be fair, or that they're always wrong. I'm saying they're biased, and the data bears that out.

The Russia investigation was, precisely, a worthless political witch hunt. That doesn't mean I defend everything Trump has done. But that was a sham.

"Hillary-Russia-Obama-FBI collusion, so we must investigate that. "

The Steele dossier, in particular, was a mockery of justice, a political weapon used by people who hate Trump, to violate the rights of a US citizen.

"The liberal academic establishment prevents conservative voices from getting plum faculty jobs"

Obviously, irrefutably true, especially teaching jobs in the humanities and liberal arts.

Man you are a kook.

“good news is that if these leftists ever decide they actually want to fight it out over America...it won't last very long”
Scott

So the guys who aren’t proud enough of their beliefs to admit them in public or at work, think that the cosplay warriors would put up a fight

https://youtu.be/oI-BoEca2bE
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Pete, you guys denying that media and academia have a liberal bias, makes exactly as much sense as my denying that foxnews has a conservative bias. Anyone who'd say that, is both an idiot and a liar. You'd deny the sky is blue if the DNC told you to.

Back before the internet, I’d go to the comics in the Sunday paper first, nothing better than a good laugh to start your day. Now I come to the SB political forum to chuckle watching you two girls pee In each other’s pool thread after pathetic thread. I will give Pete credit for persistence, Jim cudos for always being right and Wayne credit for attempting to have a respectable debate. Ross will chime in occasionally to attempt to bring in civility, but that is of course an exercise in futility. Scott loves to show how SMART (said in a hard Boston accent) he is, always on the lookout for a chance to jump on someone not watching out for spell check errors and always the occasional do drop in by Dad and others with pearls of wisdom.

And then there is DeBarr, just a trolling Midwest crappie fisherman who absolutely loves listening to himself.

Carry on I’m enjoying the #^&#^&#^&#^& show.

he would cut and paste what they wrote and then present it as his own thought and then tell you that you are programmed to say stuff :kewl:

oh good...old people stories :shocked:

Academia has a politically Progressive bias, not a politically liberal bias. Progressivism is not liberal in the classical sense of that word. Progressivism is authoritarian in its nature.

so when you come on, lob baseless insults and scurry off, that’s ok.

but whenever anyone you disagree with posts here, it’s a character flaw.

sorry i missed that memo that made you overlord of all things here, but i must say, that’s a nice position for you to be in. Good work if you can get it.
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He's in his mindless comfort zone. A gallon of salty buttered up popcorn, a preferably funny show . . . and he's good to go.

I’ve rebutted everyone of your claims before, if the basis of your beliefs is that the Republican Party is still the Party of Lincoln and the Democratic Party is the Party of George Wallace and Bull Connor, you are stupid.

You still haven’t read the Mueller report or the Steele dossier.

If you think the Steele raw intelligence report is all made up, just what did Paul Manafort not “rat out” Trump for and then get pardoned? What was Roger Stone pardoned for?
Did Trump have deals in Russia?

Just how are your great speakers Milo Yiannopoulos, Ben Shapiro, Charles Murray, and Ann Coulter disrupted, nothing makes them happier, In some instances, they seem to invite, and delight in, disruption. Anything to enhance their victimization.
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If you want to be socially progressive, you have to support initiatives that foster social progress, like education equality, women’s health resources, criminal justice reform, universal healthcare, workplace equality, and so on. These initiatives either cost taxpayer money, require governmentally enforced regulation, or both. If you believe in smaller government and want to pay less in taxes, how do you propose social progress be made? Because if there’s no social progress funding, there’s no social progress. Passive support is no support at all.

You can be socially conservative and fiscally conservative, but if you’re fiscally conservative, you can only be either socially conservative or a person who doesn’t give a #^&#^&#^&#^&. And not giving a #^&#^&#^&#^& is not progressive.
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don’t forget his Sunday funnies.
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I think Jim’s 👮 worried that you want his badge.
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atta boy.....

In other words . . . you admit that Progressivism is authoritarian. And, like all good authoritarians, you claim your brand is for the good of society.

No, do you believe that no social progress is good.
At what point in time should it be halted or do you propose that we be time warped back to?
Are you like some here, wishing for the 50s and Eisenhower…..who identified as a progressive conservative(oops)
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Atta boy, you missed the statement

“I’ve rebutted everyone of your claims before, if the basis of your beliefs is that the Republican Party is still the Party of Lincoln and the Democratic Party is the Party of George Wallace and Bull Connor, you are stupid.”
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sure! conservatives HATE equality ( despite opposing slavery and jim crow), conservatives really despise women’s health. we really hate it when women are healthy.

just say “abortion”. if there’s nothing immoral about abortion, why do you feel the need to hide it in a euphemism like “women’s health”?

school equality? sorry, liberals adamantly oppose school choice.
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The manner of achieving social progress makes all the difference. And the definition of "progress," like the definition of all socially loaded words can be the propaganda that supports the method.

That's my fortune cookie wisdom. Take it or leave it.

No Jim,
Radical Republicans ended slavery, not conservatives.
And the end of the Jim Crow era with the aid of the Northern Democrats pushed Southern Conservatives to the Republican Party.

I don’t have any need to hide my views on abortion, I don’t think we’re required to believe in your religion.

Sorry but I think public education is important, not perfect but needed.
Left to their own conservatives would have no federal support for education.
And then if every state was as poorly educated as Republican controlled states, we’d have more Trumps and DeSantis’
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Federal support for education, especially when it's used as a lever to dictate what and how is to be taught, is an unconstitutional power grab by Progressive authoritarians who are transforming us into an unlimited form of centralized government.

The public school teachers in the Republican controlled states graduated from the same Progressive education departments that dictate the programs of the vast majority of American colleges and universities. So the Republican controlled states are being educated just as well or poorly as the other states. Culture pretty much decides the amount and quality of what is learned. The quality of the learning of most black students in Democrat controlled states would be considered poorly educated. As well so for culturally backward whites. And the federal government has not provided an authoritarian solution to that problem. On the contrary, it seems to exacerbate the problem by not demanding, in its beneficent authoritarian way, that culturally backward families get their $hit together. Rather, it deems giving those folks more security and goodies will somehow transform their ways.

Of course, that gives the political power grabbers some statistical fodder to demand more power.

What a cowardly dodge, and you're smart enough to know it.

We don't differ in "women's health". We differ on abortion. You chose to hide behind a very benign-sounding euphemism, which is what your side does constantly.

Why? Why hide behind the label "choice" or "health"? Obviously, conservatives are in favor of choice and health. I'm not asking you to join my religion, I'm asking why you felt the need to be deceptive about your position.

It's all nonsense.

[QUOTE=Jim in CT;1221059]Not all school boards. But most

More nonsense and conspiracy
And you are shocked when you get push back against your madness
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Jim you’re lost in semantics again, if this was the period between 1591 and 1868 abortion before ensoulment would not be a sin in the eyes of your church.


In no logical world can Roe be overturned without obliterating the separation clause. To outlaw choice with arbitrary definitions of human life based on ancient mythology is to adopt a state religion. This is the real goal of the anti-choice movement. They accepted it long ago.
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[QUOTE=wdmso;1221096]i like it when people push back, but it’s preferable when they do it with some truth and common sense.

why can’t you ever respond when i ask you which big issues you agree 100% with conservatives on? that’s the easiest way to see who is an open minded thinker, and who’s a thoughtless zombie

i think liberals are correct in gay marriage. i think the liberal idea that health insurance cover pre existing conditions, was brilliant and kind and decent. i think liberals are right to oppose the death penalty.
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this is worth the time...


https://youtu.be/2Kg0q82mFzI

Ah yes all truth comes from YouTube
There’s some good stuff on there
This guy
https://youtu.be/0ctJ6Lkjdi4
And this guy
https://youtu.be/zJKXeOgXa4Q
Or this guy
https://youtu.be/c2Oxw7B6E3c
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I hesitate to click a link that you post.....but my link is an Opposing Views podcast that was done on CRT with some emphasis on how it has been inserted into our education system...the content is pretty interesting from both sides...can you handle an opposing view without losing your mind pete?

Sorry, but even you with a little help could post on YouTube

“I saw it on the computer” doesn’t come close to making it true
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none of them can, not a one.
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that’s pretty rich, coming from the guy known for posting long essays he found on then internet.

I mean, did you intend that to be funny?
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You think this is serious, that’s funny, sorta like these people

Tucker Carlson is upset that an M&M got new shoes

Ted Cruz was upset Big Bird encouraged kids to get vaxxed

Matt Schlapp was upset there’s now an Asian American Sesame St muppet

They were upset about Mr Potato Head & Dr Seuss

But a terrorist attack on our Capitol? No big deal
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pete, you were known as repeat, because of your tendency to cut and paste massive essays from the internet. you can’t deny you have a habit of doing that

then you say “just because you saw it on the internet, doesn’t make it true”.

you see no irony there? really?
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I love the C&P argument .. as if the information presented is somehow irrelevante
because the person who Posted it didn't write it .. not sure why youtube videos here are not looked at in the same negative Light ?

here's a C&P you'll support ..

Florida’s Senate Education committee approved a new bill supported by Florida governor Ron DeSantis (R) on Tuesday that would ban the state’s schools and private businesses from making people feel “discomfort” or “guilt” in regard to their race, sex, or national origin.

But he Says it's to protect everybody ! LOL only his followers are that gullible

if a democrat governor suggested the same exact thing, you’d love it.
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is that Italian?..."I deem your ridiculous argument irrelevante' !" :bl:

Hey, has DeathSantis caught up to NYS yet?
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This response from a Democrat Senator is precious:

“This bill’s not for Blacks, this bill was not for any other race. This was directed to make whites not feel bad about what happened years ago,” said Sen. Shevrin Jones (D-FL), adding, “At no point did anyone say white people should be held responsible for what happened, but what I would ask my white counterparts is, are you an enabler of what happened or are you going to say we must talk about history?”

He doesn't say white people should be held responsible for what happened in the past, but he would ask whites if they are enablers of (i.e. responsible for) what happened in the past.

I understand how you can enable the actions that are presently occurring, but enabling the actions of a past before you existed seems that it would require one of wdmso's time machines.

And is he saying that we don't talk about history? Is he saying that our schools don't teach what happened, don't teach about our history of slavery and how awful it was? I don't recall a time in my life that we haven't talked about slavery and the plight of blacks. I certainly learned about it in the schools I attended. I remember it being repeatedly referred to and explained in our various medias. It has been a continuous topic and cause of legislation as far as I can remember. We've had a plethora books, articles, movies, newscasts, debates, laws, regarding the stain in our history.

I guess we have arrived at a time when we must not only know about it, we must feel it. We are in the time of needing, foremost, to feel. And so we have to feel bad about what happened years ago.

Sure, we're not responsible for what happened before we were born, but if we do not feel bad about it, no matter how much we did legally to correct our past adherence to a universal centuries old evil (which we inherited--love the "inherited" excuse we like to use--as a result of being a part of the human race), no matter all that, we must be made to feel bad about it. Otherwise, even though we are not responsible for that past, if we don't feel bad about it, we have enabled it.