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The Dad Fisherman 02-02-2022 01:59 PM

Gee, 335,000,000 people in this country and someone did something stupid, what are the odds.

The woman is a moron, the book didn't get removed, and it should have been a non-story. Moving right along.

PaulS 02-02-2022 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1221851)
Gee, 335,000,000 people in this country and someone did something stupid, what are the odds.

The woman is a moron, the book didn't get removed, and it should have been a non-story. Moving right along.

This type of whining is going to be more and more frequent. Snowflakes
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The Dad Fisherman 02-02-2022 02:10 PM

Whatever floats your boat, Paul. :rolleyes:

PaulS 02-04-2022 08:36 AM

More R cancelations:

Members of the Republican National Committee are pushing forward with a resolution to censure Reps. Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger,

The measure rebukes Cheney and Kinzinger for their involvement on the Jan. 6 select committee investigating Donald Trump’s effort to overturn the result of the 2020 election,

scottw 02-04-2022 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1221939)
More R cancelations:

Members of the Republican National Committee are pushing forward with a resolution to censure Reps. Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger,

The measure rebukes Cheney and Kinzinger for their involvement on the Jan. 6 select committee investigating Donald Trump’s effort to overturn the result of the 2020 election,

it's not really a cancellation....

Pete F. 02-04-2022 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1221943)
it's not really a cancellation....

The official position of the Republican Party will be that January 6 was "legitimate political discourse" and that the only people who deserve punishment are the two Republicans who opposed it.

GOP voters are ok with whatever happens. They'll adjust their "beliefs" accordingly.

Just watch

detbuch 02-04-2022 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1221947)
The official position of the Republican Party will be that January 6 was "legitimate political discourse" and that the only people who deserve punishment are the two Republicans who opposed it.

GOP voters are ok with whatever happens. They'll adjust their "beliefs" accordingly.

Just watch

Big government supposition Pete strikes again with powerful speculation . . . and backs it up with the condition that we need to just watch. And, of course, his authoritative (authoritarian) tone is convincing enough to prove that the supposed Republican official position is a priori wrong.

Outstanding propaganda . . . er . . . information.

Pete F. 02-04-2022 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1221947)
The official position of the Republican Party will be that January 6 was "legitimate political discourse" and that the only people who deserve punishment are the two Republicans who opposed it.

GOP voters are ok with whatever happens. They'll adjust their "beliefs" accordingly.

Just watch

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1221948)
Big government supposition Pete strikes again with powerful speculation . . . and backs it up with the condition that we need to just watch. And, of course, his authoritative (authoritarian) tone is convincing enough to prove that the supposed Republican official position is a priori wrong.

Outstanding propaganda . . . er . . . information.

You prove my point

There is no speculation, this is a new low for the RNC. Beating cops is “legitimate political discourse”? Sad thing is they know it isn’t true but they put out the hostage tape for the 2x impeached sore loser to get $$.

How little faith they have in conservative winning issues.

PaulS 02-04-2022 01:17 PM

More Canc:

Missouri’s top health official, a Republican who opposes mask and vaccine mandates but spoke approvingly of the Covid vaccine, was supposed to have been confirmed by State Senate by Friday.

Instead, conservative state legislators stonewalled the process earlier this week and Donald Kauerauf resigned on Tuesday, becoming the latest public health leader to be forced from office, as the politicized fight about masks, mandates and pandemic response rages on.

scottw 02-04-2022 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1221968)
More Canc:

Missouri’s top health official, a Republican who opposes mask and vaccine mandates but spoke approvingly of the Covid vaccine, was supposed to have been confirmed by State Senate by Friday.

Instead, conservative state legislators stonewalled the process earlier this week and Donald Kauerauf resigned on Tuesday, becoming the latest public health leader to be forced from office, as the politicized fight about masks, mandates and pandemic response rages on.

I guess you won't be moving to Missouri...

detbuch 02-04-2022 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1221951)
You prove my point

There is no speculation, this is a new low for the RNC. Beating cops is “legitimate political discourse”? Sad thing is they know it isn’t true but they put out the hostage tape for the 2x impeached sore loser to get $$.

How little faith they have in conservative winning issues.

It's hard to tell what your point was since you painted with such an all encompassing brush. "The official position of the Republican Party will be that January 6 was "legitimate political discourse" and that the only people who deserve punishment are the two Republicans who opposed it."

McDaniel didn't say the the only people who deserve punishment are Cheney and Kinzinger. Neither did she say that beating cops is legitimate political discourse.

She didn't say that everything that happened on Jan6 was legitimate political discourse. Excluding the property damage and any physical assaults that were not defense or retaliation against physical force imposed on them, the rest, the majority of protesters did participate in legitimate political discourse.

Some got caught up in misdemeanors such as trespassing. But, at least to some of us, there seems to be an intentionally abusive overreaction to what occurred, especially against the majority who were not actually seditious or conspiratorial in intent. Languishing for months in crappy imprisonment while waiting for indeterminately scheduled trials is an abuse of civil rights in the cases of even the most egregious crimes and certainly more so in cases of minor ones.

McDaniel supported what she considered the original purpose of the Jan6 congressional investigation including any legitimate punishment for actual serious crimes. She considers that what is actually happening has gone well beyond that and has become politically motivated.

Many of us tend to agree with her.

So, what are the conservative winning issues that you have faith in?

Jim in CT 02-04-2022 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1221968)
More Canc:

Missouri’s top health official, a Republican who opposes mask and vaccine mandates but spoke approvingly of the Covid vaccine, was supposed to have been confirmed by State Senate by Friday.

Instead, conservative state legislators stonewalled the process earlier this week and Donald Kauerauf resigned on Tuesday, becoming the latest public health leader to be forced from office, as the politicized fight about masks, mandates and pandemic response rages on.

This week, Alexandra Ocasio Cortez told Senator Schumer to "make life as difficult as possible" for Senators Manchin and Sinema. Is that your idea of inclusion, tolerance, and embracing diversity of opinions?

I guess you're more concerned about the Missouri state government, than about the US Senate. Either that, or you only care when Republicans do it.

PaulS 02-04-2022 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1221973)
This week, Alexandra Ocasio Cortez told Senator Schumer to "make life as difficult as possible" for Senators Manchin and Sinema. Is that your idea of inclusion, tolerance, and embracing diversity of opinions?

I guess you're more concerned about the Missouri state government, than about the US Senate. Either that, or you only care when Republicans do it.

looks to me that the Republican National Committee are trying to cancel Cheney and kinzinger.
But I thought it was only Democrats who cancel others? Isn't that one of those things you howl at the moon about?
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Pete F. 02-04-2022 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1221972)
It's hard to tell what your point was since you painted with such an all encompassing brush. "The official position of the Republican Party will be that January 6 was "legitimate political discourse" and that the only people who deserve punishment are the two Republicans who opposed it."

McDaniel didn't say the the only people who deserve punishment are Cheney and Kinzinger. Neither did she say that beating cops is legitimate political discourse.

She didn't say that everything that happened on Jan6 was legitimate political discourse. Excluding the property damage and any physical assaults that were not defense or retaliation against physical force imposed on them, the rest, the majority of protesters did participate in legitimate political discourse.

Some got caught up in misdemeanors such as trespassing. But, at least to some of us, there seems to be an intentionally abusive overreaction to what occurred, especially against the majority who were not actually seditious or conspiratorial in intent. Languishing for months in crappy imprisonment while waiting for indeterminately scheduled trials is an abuse of civil rights in the cases of even the most egregious crimes and certainly more so in cases of minor ones.

McDaniel supported what she considered the original purpose of the Jan6 congressional investigation including any legitimate punishment for actual serious crimes. She considers that what is actually happening has gone well beyond that and has become politically motivated.

Many of us tend to agree with her.

So, what are the conservative winning issues that you have faith in?
Everything Trump Touchs Dies

Orwell said, “In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”

The GOP is censuring Cheney and Kinzinger for one reason: They’re telling the truth about the party and Donald Trump's attempt to overturn an American election. And the GOP wants to shut them up.

To be clear, apparently Ronna's not calling the actual violent attack on the U.S. Capitol "legitimate political discourse" — she's just calling the preceding conspiracy to overturn the election, seize voting machines and execute a coup "legitimate political discourse."

As far as just tourists caught up in misdemeanors

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWJVMoe7OY0

Jim in CT 02-04-2022 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1221974)
looks to me that the Republican National Committee are trying to cancel Cheney and kinzinger.
But I thought it was only Democrats who cancel others? Isn't that one of those things you howl at the moon about?
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So the RNC is supposed to support every Republican forever?

"But I thought it was only Democrats who cancel others?"

Can you point to where anyone here, said Republicans never do that? But we aren't obsessed with perfect conformity. The GOP had a little civil war recently, it's over, and the Liz Cheney/ Josh Bolton types lost. They lost resoundingly.

The Democrats civil war is between the moderates (very few left) and the progressives, and that's nowhere near over. But that's not a winning issue for you, so you pretend it doesn't exist.

PaulS 02-04-2022 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1221976)
So the RNC is supposed to support every Republican forever?

"But I thought it was only Democrats who cancel others?"

Can you point to where anyone here, said Republicans never do that? But we aren't obsessed with perfect conformity. The GOP had a little civil war recently, it's over, and the Liz Cheney/ Josh Bolton types lost. They lost resoundingly.

The Democrats civil war is between the moderates (very few left) and the progressives, and that's nowhere near over. But that's not a winning issue for you, so you pretend it doesn't exist.

There's no Civil War amongst the Democrats. They're having legitimate disagreements. The DNC is not trying to kick people out and censure them like the RNC is at the national level. If you don't like the post I guess you could just ignore it maybe go start another thread about some democrat not wearing a mask .
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wdmso 02-04-2022 05:01 PM

They chose to join Nancy Pelosi in a Democrat-led persecution of ordinary citizens who engaged in legitimate political discourse that had nothing to do with violence at the Capitol. That's why Republican National Committee members and myself overwhelmingly support this resolution."


This is the newest republican and the far right mantra

you see it with Masks you See it with with school board protest and the DOJ you see it with Trump and those arrested after Jan 6th and Now with the RNC
They are petrified of Trump and their fring base .


"The leaders of the Republican Party have made themselves willing hostages to a man who admits he tried to overturn a presidential election and suggests he would pardon Jan. 6 defendants, some of whom have been charged with seditious conspiracy," Cheney tweeted

Ironic coming from one of the Most conservative women around who no is considered a Rino

Jim in CT 02-04-2022 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1221980)
There's no Civil War amongst the Democrats. They're having legitimate disagreements. The DNC is not trying to kick people out and censure them like the RNC is at the national level. If you don't like the post I guess you could just ignore it maybe go start another thread about some democrat not wearing a mask .
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no civil war. that’s why biden went to congress twice to beg them
to
pass infastructure, and twice they told him to go kick rocks, only passed it when they got annihilated in VA.

can’t pass build back better despite controlling everything.

the progressives are telling the moderates to join the gop, AOC is telling schumer to make their lives as miserable as possible.

totally legitimate!!
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PaulS 02-04-2022 05:43 PM

Sounds like a good idea for another thread for you to start.
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Jim in CT 02-04-2022 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1221987)
Sounds like a good idea for another thread for you to start.
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lobbing baseless insults is easier than defending a losing proposition.
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scottw 02-04-2022 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1221980)

There's no Civil War amongst the Democrats.

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right...they are more likely to slap fight...

Jim in CT 02-04-2022 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1221992)
right...they are more likely to slap fight...

don’t forget pinching.
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Pete F. 02-04-2022 06:41 PM

Probably a RINO
MIKE PENCE: “President Trump is wrong. I had no right to overturn the election. The presidency belongs to the American people, and the American people alone. And frankly, there is no idea more un-American than the notion that any one person could choose the American president."
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Jim in CT 02-04-2022 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1221997)
Probably a RINO
MIKE PENCE: “President Trump is wrong. I had no right to overturn the election. The presidency belongs to the American people, and the American people alone. And frankly, there is no idea more un-American than the notion that any one person could choose the American president."
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i think he’s spot on, and the Federalist Society cheered him, didn’t they?
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detbuch 02-04-2022 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1221975)
So, what are the conservative winning issues that you have faith in? Everything Trump Touchs Dies

That's a conservative issue? A "winning issue"? So a "Conservative" candidate running on the "issue" that everything Trump Touches Dies, that the covid vaccines died, would be the ticket to getting elected?

Orwell said, “In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”

You should try Orwell's revolutionary act instead of telling lies, half truths, and deceptions in order to destroy Trump. You fit well with the time of deceit.

The GOP is censuring Cheney and Kinzinger for one reason: They’re telling the truth about the party and Donald Trump's attempt to overturn an American election. And the GOP wants to shut them up.

The GOP differs with you about the reasons to censure Cheney and Kinzinger. They explain it in their censure resolution, none of which comports with your accusation. And the censure will not "shut up" Cheney and Kinzinger as you claim. Here is the reasoning in their own words contrary to your deceitful insinuation about "the truth":

The primary mission of the Republican Party is to elect Republicans who support the United States Constitution and share our values;

The Biden Administration and Democrats in Congress have embarked on a systematic effort to replace liberty with socialism; eliminate border security in favor of lawless, open borders; create record inflation designed to steal the American dream from our children and
grandchildren; neuter our national defense and a peace through strength foreign policy; replace President Trump’s “Operation Warp Speed” with incompetence and illegal mandates; and destroy
America’s economy with the Green New Deal;

Winning back the majority in Congress, including the United States House of Representatives, in 2022 must be the primary goal of the House Republican Conference (“Conference”) and requires all Republicans working together to accomplish the same;

The Conference must design the strategy to stop the radical Biden agenda and retire Nancy Pelosi, tasks which require that all Republicans pull in the same direction;

The Conference must not be sabotaged by Representatives Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger who have demonstrated, with actions and words, that they support Democrat efforts to destroy President Trump more than they support winning back a Republican majority in 2022;

Representatives Cheney and Kinzinger have engaged in actions in their positions as members of the January 6th Select Committee not befitting Republican members of Congress, which include the Committee’s disregard for minority rights, traditional checks and balances, due process, and adherence to other precedent and rules of the U.S. House and which seem intent on advancing a political agenda to buoy the Democrat Party’s bleak prospects in the upcoming
midterm elections;

Congressional Republicans bear ultimate responsibility for their own success or failure and the RNC supports their efforts by denouncing those who deliberately jeopardize victory in November on which the future of our constitutional republic depends at this critical
moment in history;

Representatives Cheney and Kinzinger purport to be members of the Republican Party; and Representatives Cheney and Kinzinger are participating in a Democrat-led persecution of ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse, and they are both
utilizing their past professed political affiliation to mask Democrat abuse of prosecutorial power for partisan purposes


To be clear, apparently Ronna's not calling the actual violent attack on the U.S. Capitol "legitimate political discourse" — she's just calling the preceding conspiracy to overturn the election, seize voting machines and execute a coup "legitimate political discourse."

No, you're lying again. She referred specifically to the "Democrat-led persecution of ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse" on Jan6.

As far as just tourists caught up in misdemeanors

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWJVMoe7OY0

Didn't watch the video, but you're overplaying the "tourists" bit. Very deceitful.

Pete F. 02-04-2022 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1222010)
Didn't watch the video, but you're overplaying the "tourists" bit. Very deceitful.

Didn’t read the Mueller Report
Didn’t see Trump say that
Didn’t see any of the terrorists on J6
Nothing may disturb the narrative
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detbuch 02-04-2022 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222017)
Didn’t read the Mueller Report

I read Mueller's conclusions. I've read that the Russiagate thing has been "debunked."

Didn’t see Trump say that

Say what?

Didn’t see any of the terrorists on J6

Wasn't there but saw videos of the rioters.

Nothing may disturb the narrative
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I try, but you're too steeped in it that nothing can disturb it. You even have to resort to repetitive lying, deceit, propaganda, supposition, conjecture, and ridiculous memes to support it.

You once asked me if I ever thought I could be wrong. I answered honestly that I always consider that I might be. I didn't return the favor by asking you the same question. It just doesn't seem plausible that someone who so easily, remorselessly, resorts to constant deceptions could possibly, if he had a functioning conscience, admit that he might be wrong.

Pete F. 02-04-2022 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1222025)
I try, but you're too steeped in it that nothing can disturb it. You even have to resort to repetitive lying, deceit, propaganda, supposition, conjecture, and ridiculous memes to support it.

You once asked me if I ever thought I could be wrong. I answered honestly that I always consider that I might be. I didn't return the favor by asking you the same question. It just doesn't seem plausible that someone who so easily, remorselessly, resorts to constant deceptions could possibly, if he had a functioning conscience, admit that he might be wrong.

Social science will reveal that as the Republican Party became increasingly conservative, building a base with the religious right, it became the authoritarian party. That authoritarianism revealed itself to be undemocratic and un-American.
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detbuch 02-04-2022 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222029)
Social science will reveal that as the Republican Party became increasingly conservative, building a base with the religious right, it became the authoritarian party. That authoritarianism revealed itself to be undemocratic and un-American.
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Sorry Mister Nostradamus, but the Republican Party has become increasingly Progressive and therefor catching up with the cloaked but still evident authoritarianism of Progressives. This current hiccup in the trend toward Republican Progressivism has been a small retreat back to the original conservatism of the earlier supporters of our founding principles--the conservation of individual liberty against the intrusive power of the Federal Government.

And the "religious right" is openly very much against the Progressive notion of an unimpeded central government. And very much for a return of federally stolen power back to the states--the original conservatism of power being held mostly by the people and their communities, not by some distant all powerful central government.

As for "social science" revealing who is authoritarian, you appear to view social science as some unified authority. Actually, social scientists are diverse in fields of study and in political persuasion which has historically changed from time to time. Economists certainly don't represent some monolithic view on what is authoritarian and which party represents that. Same for historians. Sociologists may not even think about the differences between the parties on authoritarian lines, rather, academics, and workers in the field such as social workers, may fundamentally view government as necessarily being authoritarian in order to impose what they consider necessary for social cohesion and what social experts recommend for their notion of social progress. Which is what you have admitted that you believe.

No doubt, the unabated Progressive pedagogy in our educational institutions will more and more tip the scale in the classrooms from any existing remnants of original conservatism in the social sciences toward authoritarian Progressivism in the minds and souls of future social scientists. And you may be making a distinction between "good" and "bad" authoritarianism. For you the emphasis on individual freedom at the expense of government power to do what you think is good is a bad sort of authoritarianism--the authority of the selfish individual eclipsing the power of government to dictate what is good.

As of today and the near past, there are many economists and historians who view Progressives as the greater authoritarians. You have admitted that government must be authoritarian in order to pass Progressive legislation. Which is admitting that Progressives are authoritarian.

So if Republicans become THE AUTHORITARIAN PARTY when they finally succeed in becoming bona fide Progressive Republicans, their undemocratic and un-American "good" authoritarianism should make you happy.

Jim in CT 02-05-2022 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222029)
Social science will reveal that as the Republican Party became increasingly conservative, building a base with the religious right, it became the authoritarian party. That authoritarianism revealed itself to be undemocratic and un-American.
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the party that wants smaller federal government reach, less federal intrusion, the party that wants to give people more liberty and choice, is the authoritarian party.

That’s just brilliant Pete. You have a dazzling intellect.
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Pete F. 02-05-2022 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1222038)
the party that wants smaller federal government reach, less federal intrusion, the party that wants to give people more liberty and choice, is the authoritarian party.

That’s just brilliant Pete. You have a dazzling intellect.
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Trying to overthrow the government, banning the teaching of history, banning books, these things are not “conservative”, they are truly radical
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Pete F. 02-05-2022 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1222038)
the party that wants smaller federal government reach, less federal intrusion, the party that wants to give people more liberty and choice, is the authoritarian party.

That’s just brilliant Pete. You have a dazzling intellect.
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"Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the (Republican) party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them."

Guess who
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scottw 02-05-2022 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222041)
Trying to overthrow the government, banning the teaching of history, banning books, these things are not “conservative”, they are truly radical
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when leftists act this way you dummies call it democracy

scottw 02-05-2022 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222042)
"Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the (Republican) party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them."

Guess who
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hillary was a goldwater girl....ssssooooooo

Pete F. 02-05-2022 08:14 AM

Jonathan Last on The GOP Is an Authoritarian Regime

(1) This unanimously-approved censure document has to be viewed in conjunction with the RNC’s 2020 platform.

You will recall that in 2020, the RNC declined to create a platform.

Instead, the RNC passed a 1-page resolution which concluded that the party stood for . . . literally whatever Donald Trump wanted:

RESOLVED, That the Republican Party has and will continue to enthusiastically support the President’s America-first agenda.

That was the party platform.

This inverted the traditional relationship between a president and his party. Historically, the party had a bunch of ideas and the president was their elected champion, the guy who would support the party and carry its banner forth.

Trump switched it so that the president was his own state and the party existed purely to support him in the perpetuation of his power.

Now put the RNC platform’s pledge of fealty to Trump next to the unanimous censure of Cheney and Kinzinger and what you see looks more like juche than anything we’re used to in the history of American political institutions.

(2) Buried in the censure of Cheney and Kinzinger is a revealing phrase:

. . . they are both using their past professed political affiliation . . .

“Professed.”

This isn’t a stray word. It’s an assertion that Cheney and Kinzinger were never real Republicans—that they were impostors the whole time, whose actions over the past year represented not a break in behavior but a revelation of their true selves.

This is Stalinist. Like, literally. There’s simply no other way to read it.

And it is extraordinary in American politics.

It is nice that a handful of elected Republicans are pushing back against this censure document. But I do not understand—and I mean this, genuinely—how someone could remain in the GOP. It is not a political party in any meaningful sense. It is an authoritarian machine.
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Jim in CT 02-05-2022 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222041)
Trying to overthrow the government, banning the teaching of history, banning books, these things are not “conservative”, they are truly radical
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trump is one guy. he’s not “the republican party”

pete, biden is a pathological
liar, he obviously sold
influence to profit his son, a plagiarist, said republicans want to put blacks in chains, a weird woman sniffer with a rape allegation against him.

are you responsible
for that? are all democrats? do you get painted with biden’s personal
flaws?

this is what people
do, when they don’t want to talk about policy.
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Jim in CT 02-05-2022 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222041)
Banning books,
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books such as the one showing young boys blowing each other. not banning them entirely, just from public schools.

but when the left forces christian businesses out of business because they won’t participate in gay weddings, that’s not authoritarian. trying to shut down joe rogan, firing Gina Carano, etc…

unbelievable.
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scottw 02-05-2022 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1222050)
books such as the one showing young boys blowing each other. not banning them entirely, just from public schools.

but when the left forces christian businesses out of business because they won’t participate in gay weddings, that’s not authoritarian. trying to shut down joe rogan, firing Gina Carano, etc…

unbelievable.
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the left loves banning and burning stuff.....

Jim in CT 02-05-2022 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1222051)
the left loves banning and burning stuff.....

when maine waters goes on tv and tells democrats rats to hound
members of trump’s cabinet to “let them know they aren’t welcome anywhere, anytime” is that authoritarian?

when AOC tells Schumer to “make life as difficult as possible” for Manchin and Sinema, is that authoritarian?
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Pete F. 02-05-2022 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1222049)
trump is one guy. he’s not “the republican party”

pete, biden is a pathological
liar, he obviously sold
influence to profit his son, a plagiarist, said republicans want to put blacks in chains, a weird woman sniffer with a rape allegation against him.

are you responsible
for that? are all democrats? do you get painted with biden’s personal
flaws?

this is what people
do, when they don’t want to talk about policy.
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You will recall that in 2020, the RNC declined to create a platform.

Instead, the RNC passed a 1-page resolution which concluded that the party stood for . . . literally whatever Donald Trump wanted:
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