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Pete F. 02-12-2022 11:03 AM

Guess you could just ask Mike Lindell
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Jim in CT 02-12-2022 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222478)
Guess you could just ask Mike Lindell
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let’s ask him if handing out needles and crack pipes is a good idea, i bet he’s be in a good place to know.

he beat addiction, and became a billionaire, creating god knows how many jobs. i say good for him.

and you completely avoided my post.

once again, does crack disproportionately impact blacks? yes or no?

do you EVER get tired of being wrong?
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wdmso 02-12-2022 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1222471)
those are your words. obviously, you’re saying crack is primarily a black problem.

Then when i say the same thing, you claim I’m wrong.

It’s very difficult to take you seriously. You’re humiliating yourself because you can’t just admit that maybe i was right on one thing, one time.

Also, you cannot refute me, by pointing to republicans who disagree with me. Unlike you, i can say that my side does a lot of stupid things. Unlike you, I don’t have to agree with my side on every single, solitary issue.

I never said that there’s no such thing as a republican who advocated for needle exchanges. But it’s mostly a liberal idea. And everyone who agrees with it, whether they’re a liberal or a conservative, is next-generation stupid.

Anyway, we’d all love to hear your explanation on why you flip-flopped so completely on blacks and crack, in the blink of an eye.

It’s fine when you say crack is mostly a black problem. But when Insay it, I’m an idiot.

Have fun with that.

wdmso: no one cares about crack because it was blacks…

jim: handing out crack pipes is bad for blacks…

wdmso: oh, you think only blacks do crack?

Do you not see the lack of logic there wayne?
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The narrative about Black people who used drugs during the crack crisis of the 1980s and ’90s was very different, implying that their drug use was a criminal and moral failure.


That wasn’t my position that’s the conservatives position then and now

The only one embarrassing themself is you

You can’t follow can you ? You have no historical view or experience in addiction. You are just regurgitation machine of conservatives talking points

Anything forward looking in your world is of course next-generation stupid.

Conservatives are all peddlers on a stationary Bike complaining that nothings changing

Because every past program to attack addiction has such a great track record ..

AA and NA are still the best tools to fight addiction
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wdmso 02-12-2022 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1222470)
“crack pipes i guess only blacks use them.”

Oh FFS just in the last two days you posted that crack was primarily a black problem. But when i say the same thing you attack it.

Which is it?
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The Biden administration is going to be sending crack pipes and meth pipes, targeting minority communities,” Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said in a video message.


It’s a black thing white use heroin black use heroin let’s allow needle exchanges

crack pipes I guess only blacks use them .

Clearly that was sarcasm

against what Marco said

but like humor you don’t get it
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Jim in CT 02-12-2022 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1222480)


That wasn’t my position that’s the conservatives position then and now



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yes it was your position yesterday. you said no one cared about crack, then oxy came along and white kids were dying and people cared. which means that non-white kids were predominantly the ones dying before.

I posted a study from the ACLU which clearly shows it was predominantly a black issue. is the ACLU wrong?

“drug use was a moral failure.”

drug use IS a moral failure. when you freely choose to take drugs for the first time, you’re being an unbelievable moron. everyone knows the dangers. becoming an addict is a disease that no one chooses. but every single person makes a free choice to use it the first time. and you deserve to be ridiculed for making such a profoundly stupid choice.

“you have no experience in addiction”.


except my brother being a raging alcoholic who has struggled
mightily his entire adult life, i’ve been to at least 30 AA meetings with him. and dragged him to rehab several times, paid his mortgage and heating bills God knows how many times, prayed for him god knows how many times, called his sponsors god knows how many times, cried like a baby for him god knows how many times.

Never once, did it ever occur to me, that i could help him by making it easier for him to drink.

Wayne, you struggle with simple and straightforward facts that are right in front of you. You’re wrong about what you yourself said yesterday! Stop trying to assume things about me. You stink at it.

“every past program to treat addiction has a great track record.”

how’s the track record for places that coddle and enable addicts? is that working in san francisco and portland?

Can you please, please address that question?
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Pete F. 02-12-2022 04:09 PM

If your brother was addicted to narcotics, do you think he would be better off with aids and hepatitis?
We’re not talking about buying them their drug of choice, just giving them a chance to make it through without a compounding issue.
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Jim in CT 02-12-2022 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222483)
If your brother was addicted to narcotics, do you think he would be better off with aids and hepatitis?
We’re not talking about buying them their drug of choice, just giving them a chance to make it through without a compounding issue.
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non he’s not better off with aids or hepatitis.

but the best solution is to get him off drugs, and tough live is still love.

Here’s my question. how is coding drug addicts working in san francisco and portland? are you denying that enabling drug addicts can lead to more drug addicts?
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Pete F. 02-12-2022 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1222484)
non he’s not better off with aids or hepatitis.

but the best solution is to get him off drugs, and tough live is still love.

Here’s my question. how is coding drug addicts working in san francisco and portland? are you denying that enabling drug addicts can lead to more drug addicts?
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Doesn’t sound like tough love is a miraculous cure to me, it’s a long tough uncertain road no matter how you look at it.

Treating addiction is proven to reduce the number of addicts.
Are you seriously claiming that providing needles to addicts encourages people to become addicts?
Really?
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Jim in CT 02-12-2022 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222487)
Doesn’t sound like tough love is a miraculous cure to me, it’s a long tough uncertain road no matter how you look at it.

Treating addiction is proven to reduce the number of addicts.
Are you seriously claiming that providing needles to addicts encourages people to become addicts?
Really?
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i never said tough love is a miraculous cure. there is no silver bullet.

i asked you 3 or 4 times if coding them is the answer, why is San Francisco turning into a pile
of raw sewage?

you won’t answer, because you know you can’t answer without showing that i have a point.

. what does it say about the utter flimsiness of your beliefs, that you are scared sh*tless by such a simple and obvious question? you can’t even come close to answering. what does that tell you?

we don’t have to speculate. coddling druggies has been tried. the results are in. you want your neighborhood to look like San Francisco and Portland?
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Pete F. 02-12-2022 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1222488)
i never said tough love is a miraculous cure. there is no silver bullet.

i asked you 3 or 4 times if coding them is the answer, why is San Francisco turning into a pile
of raw sewage?

you won’t answer, because you know you can’t answer without showing that i have a point.

. what does it say about the utter flimsiness of your beliefs, that you are scared sh*tless by such a simple and obvious question? you can’t even come close to answering. what does that tell you?

we don’t have to speculate. coddling druggies has been tried. the results are in. you want your neighborhood to look like San Francisco and Portland?
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You think that San Francisco or Portland isn’t a larger example of any city in the USA
Just what would you like to do to addicts, the mentally I’ll and other homeless people.
Explain your magic cure, I’m sure most Americans would love to see how your magnificent brilliance proposes to solve this, we’ve all been waiting for the simple solution.
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Jim in CT 02-13-2022 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222491)
You think that San Francisco or Portland isn’t a larger example of any city in the USA
Just what would you like to do to addicts, the mentally I’ll and other homeless people.
Explain your magic cure, I’m sure most Americans would love to see how your magnificent brilliance proposes to solve this, we’ve all been waiting for the simple solution.
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What you meant to say is, San Francisco looks like every liberal city. And you’re probably right.

solution?

tough love. Seal the border right. Impose brutal sentences for mid to upper level drug dealers. confiscate every cent they have and use it to open treatment centers. Drug addicts, maybe after a warning or two, get to choose between rehab, prison, or the military.

Also policies that encourages rather than attacks in tact families, encourage rather than mock faith, stop saying “if it feels good, do it”, which is the liberal motto.

start spreading the message that traditional family values might seem
corny in San Fransisco, but that’s how you produce kids who become Eagle Scouts and black belts instead of drug addicts.

And here’s something liberals could really, really stand to learn. When you try something and it fails miserably, just admit it and then fix it.

Liberals never, ever do that.
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wdmso 02-13-2022 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1222482)
yes it was your position yesterday. you said no one cared about crack, then oxy came along and white kids were dying and people cared. which means that non-white kids were predominantly the ones dying before.

I posted a study from the ACLU which clearly shows it was predominantly a black issue. is the ACLU wrong?

“drug use was a moral failure.”

drug use IS a moral failure. when you freely choose to take drugs for the first time, you’re being an unbelievable moron. everyone knows the dangers. becoming an addict is a disease that no one chooses. but every single person makes a free choice to use it the first time. and you deserve to be ridiculed for making such a profoundly stupid choice.

“you have no experience in addiction”.


except my brother being a raging alcoholic who has struggled
mightily his entire adult life, i’ve been to at least 30 AA meetings with him. and dragged him to rehab several times, paid his mortgage and heating bills God knows how many times, prayed for him god knows how many times, called his sponsors god knows how many times, cried like a baby for him god knows how many times.

Never once, did it ever occur to me, that i could help him by making it easier for him to drink.

Wayne, you struggle with simple and straightforward facts that are right in front of you. You’re wrong about what you yourself said yesterday! Stop trying to assume things about me. You stink at it.

“every past program to treat addiction has a great track record.”

how’s the track record for places that coddle and enable addicts? is that working in san francisco and portland?

Can you please, please address that question?
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having a brother being an alcoholic. ( is tough) and it a personal window into the horrible world of addiction. But that experience isn’t what I was referring to. Many of us have that experience or we know some one trapped in the circle of addiction, And it’s personal and these people are victims of addiction also .



.. Yet it seems it didn’t help you’re understanding of addiction . From a Treatment’s prospective, If you think his addiction is his moral failure or is that reserved for drug users ? and if you think needle exchange and safe injection sites
Or housing for addicts is some how to promote and encourage drug usage

The Treatment and the message for addiction is simple don’t use don’t drink . but the path to get these people to accept the message is much harder

So in a nut shell the use CRACK PIPE by Republicans was targeting Blacks , not meth pipe , not weed pipe , but Crack

And also Jim your crusade That the Dems are targeting blacks to get Abortions is more regurgitate talking points by guess who

Antiabortion activists, including some African-American pastors, have been waging a campaign around this fact, falsely asserting that the disparity is the result of aggressive marketing by abortion providers Aka Dems to minority communities.

These activists are exploiting and distorting the facts to serve their antiabortion agenda. They ignore the fundamental reason women have abortions and the underlying problem of racial and ethnic disparities across an array of health indicators. The truth is that behind virtually every abortion is an unintended pregnancy. This applies to all women—black, white, Hispanic, Asian and Native American alike.


https://www.guttmacher.org/gpr/2008/...bigger-picture

wdmso 02-13-2022 09:44 AM

Michigan
New York
Indiana
Illinois
North Carolina
California
Pennsylvania
Tennessee
Ohio
Florida

Top 10 meth user states seems the R win again

Pete F. 02-13-2022 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1222493)
What you meant to say is, San Francisco looks like every liberal city. And you’re probably right.

solution?

tough love. Seal the border right. Impose brutal sentences for mid to upper level drug dealers. confiscate every cent they have and use it to open treatment centers. Drug addicts, maybe after a warning or two, get to choose between rehab, prison, or the military.

Also policies that encourages rather than attacks in tact families, encourage rather than mock faith, stop saying “if it feels good, do it”, which is the liberal motto.

start spreading the message that traditional family values might seem
corny in San Fransisco, but that’s how you produce kids who become Eagle Scouts and black belts instead of drug addicts.

And here’s something liberals could really, really stand to learn. When you try something and it fails miserably, just admit it and then fix it.

Liberals never, ever do that.
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https://apnews.com/article/health-sa...ce76764f71058d
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wdmso 02-13-2022 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1222493)
What you meant to say is, San Francisco looks like every liberal city. And you’re probably right.

solution?

tough love. Seal the border right. Impose brutal sentences for mid to upper level drug dealers. confiscate every cent they have and use it to open treatment centers. Drug addicts, maybe after a warning or two, get to choose between rehab, prison, or the military.

Also policies that encourages rather than attacks in tact families, encourage rather than mock faith, stop saying “if it feels good, do it”, which is the liberal motto.

start spreading the message that traditional family values might seem
corny in San Fransisco, but that’s how you produce kids who become Eagle Scouts and black belts instead of drug addicts.

And here’s something liberals could really, really stand to learn. When you try something and it fails miserably, just admit it and then fix it.

Liberals never, ever do that.
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Jim your cure for addiction follows the conservatives and religious mantra of the demise of the American Family , who think a return to the days of leave it beaver separate beds home bound women and the man working 9-5 and church on Sunday and morals is the answer

I am sure it wouldn’t hurt but that ships sailed in the 1960s


I suggest anyone should watch wine and roses 1962 it was relative then and is today

Pete F. 02-13-2022 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1222493)

And here’s something liberals could really, really stand to learn. When you try something and it fails miserably, just admit it and then fix it.

Liberals never, ever do that.
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The “war on drugs” started on June 18, 1971
And a trillion dollars later, it failed miserably.
But you want to carry on.
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wdmso 02-13-2022 10:04 AM

And here’s something liberals could really, really stand to learn. When you try something and it fails miserably, just admit it and then fix it.

Liberals never, ever do that.

Republicans never ever Try something. Jim. Because they are afraid it will fail miserably like mass incarceration.

As of July 2021, the United States had the highest number of incarcerated individuals worldwide, with almost 2.1 million people in prison.

And Republicans are still yelling lock them up or blaming Democratic’s for a rise in crime even in states where no laws have been changed

Criminals and murders do not factor in penalties in their decisions they are no rational people to start with

Jim in CT 02-13-2022 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1222501)
And here’s something liberals could really, really stand to learn. When you try something and it fails miserably, just admit it and then fix it.

Liberals never, ever do that.

Republicans never ever Try something. Jim. Because they are afraid it will fail miserably like mass incarceration.

As of July 2021, the United States had the highest number of incarcerated individuals worldwide, with almost 2.1 million people in prison.

And Republicans are still yelling lock them up or blaming Democratic’s for a rise in crime even in states where no laws have been changed

Criminals and murders do not factor in penalties in their decisions they are no rational people to start with

i could write an entire sitcom with the demonstrably false, incoherent, partisan, nonsensical gibberish in that one post.
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Jim in CT 02-13-2022 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1222501)
And here’s something liberals could really, really stand to learn. When you try something and it fails miserably, just admit it and then fix it.

Liberals never, ever do that.

Republicans never ever Try something. Jim. Because they are afraid it will fail miserably like mass incarceration.

As of July 2021, the United States had the highest number of incarcerated individuals worldwide, with almost 2.1 million people in prison.

And Republicans are still yelling lock them up or blaming Democratic’s for a rise in crime even in states where no laws have been changed

Criminals and murders do not factor in penalties in their decisions they are no rational people to start with

"Republicans never ever Try something. Jim. "

Newt Gingrich didn't convince Bill Clinton to cut taxes and pay for it with welfare reform, resulting in the last federal surplus probably ever, and helping to usher in a decade of prosperity. Didn't happen, right?

George W Bush didn't spearhead his "Emergency Plan For Aids Relief Africa:, which liberal Stanford University says saved over one million lives in Africa. Bush did more for Africa, than any human being who has ever lived. And I'd bet everything that you have no idea it ever happened, because you don't like that he has an "R" after his name.

Go ahead and tell us Stanford is wrong. You know more. Didn't happen, right?

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-ne...ion-lives.html

Rudy Giuliani didn't make HUGE strides in reducing violent crime in NYC? According to politifact, murder and robbery were down two-thirds during his tenure.

Didn't happen, right?

https://www.politifact.com/article/2...ighting-crime/

And then everybody's favorite, Trump. He didn't lower taxes, get black unemployment to its lowest level ever recorded, didn't get criminal justice reform (which liberals wanted yet Obama chose not to do for 8 years), didn't help create economic opportunity zones in the cities, didn't get overall unemployment to its lowest level in a generation.

Never happened, right?

Crime.

Wayne, democrats run the federal government right now, and as a direct result of that, crime is out of control in many places. Americans see it, which is one reason why despite Biden's economic success, his polling is in the bottom of the toilet.

The 1990s crime bill, which did cause a lot of incarceration, you know who wrote it? Joe Biden. Joe Biden wrote it.

It caused a lot of incarceration. But guess what, Einstein? People in prison, aren't out hurting innocent civilians. So while all those people were locked up, crime decreased.

You just don't get it. Liberals just don't get it. Locking up criminals, cannot fail to reduce crime. Why is that so complicated? You worked in a prison, and you still don't get that?

Pete F. 02-13-2022 10:56 AM

As of May 2021, the United States had the highest prisoner rate in the world, with 639 prisoners per 100,000 of the national population.
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Pete F. 02-13-2022 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1222460)
“we love blacks so much, that we’ll pay young black girls to have babies, and give them a bonus to have those babies with no dad around, because that always works out so well. but because we don’t want TOO many of them, we’ll put an abortion clinic on every corner
in their neighborhoods. Furthermore, because we also don’t want them in school with our children, we ( the ones who never stop calling ourselves pro choice) will deny them school choice. Finally, to keep them from from improving their lives at all, we will give them needles and crack pipes to keep them addicted.”.
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Who’s your source?
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Jim in CT 02-13-2022 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222507)
Who’s your source?
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i didn’t attribute that to “the democratic base.

i can admit i made that up. Based on an accurate summary of liberal policies toward blacks

time was, democrats used public policy to control blacks on plantations. Today, democrats use public policy to control blacks in disgusting urban cities. We substituted cotton fields for urban blight and failing sh*thole schools
and a staggering, crippling, mind-blowing fatherlessness rate.

but unlike others, i’m not going to lie and say that democrats actually said that. but it’s what they do.

Make that wrong.
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wdmso 02-13-2022 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222506)
As of May 2021, the United States had the highest prisoner rate in the world, with 639 prisoners per 100,000 of the national population.
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Stop posting demonstrably false, incoherent, partisan, nonsensical gibberish

The only path forward for conservatives is pounding a square peg into a round hole !

Because admission of failure isn’t allowed

Like Trump won the election or there was voter fraud or Jan 6th was an insurrection


Just look how they support the white Canada Truckers blocking highways a vocal minority yell freedom and Covid .

Anti-Protest Conservatives Sure Do Love the Trucker Blockade Causing ‘Deep Pain’ to American Companies

But if BLM or any liberals block a road or highway all the comments are just run them over

Fox News, Daily Caller delete posts encouraging people to drive through protests

Conservatives have no historical memory they have integrity amnesia
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Jim in CT 02-13-2022 12:45 PM

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But if BLM or any liberals block a road or highway all the comments are just run them over



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Conservatives would say the truckers have a point, as conservatives as a rule, aren't big fans of mandates.

BLM doesn't have a point. It was literally founded on a complete lie ("hands up, don't shoot", which Brown never said), there's absolutely no data to suggest that police have waged war against American blacks. And BLM explicitly says they're in favor of attacking the nuclear family, when that's literally the exact opposite thing that any pro-black person should be saying.

Finally, the truckers aren't looting, burning down stores, or murdering people. Unlike BLM and Antifa.

Pete F. 02-13-2022 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1222508)
i didn’t attribute that to “the democratic base.

i can admit i made that up. Based on an accurate summary of liberal policies toward blacks

time was, democrats used public policy to control blacks on plantations. Today, democrats use public policy to control blacks in disgusting urban cities. We substituted cotton fields for urban blight and failing sh*thole schools
and a staggering, crippling, mind-blowing fatherlessness rate.

but unlike others, i’m not going to lie and say that democrats actually said that. but it’s what they do.

Make that wrong.
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You never miss a right wing trope
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Jim in CT 02-13-2022 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222513)
You never miss a right wing trope
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i agree it’s right wing.

What about it, was wrong?

I’ll wait.
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Pete F. 02-13-2022 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1222514)
i agree it’s right wing.

What about it, was wrong?

I’ll wait.
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All, start with this
Following the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965, the core bases of the two parties shifted, with the Southern states becoming more reliably Republican in presidential politics and the Northeastern states becoming more reliably Democratic.
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Jim in CT 02-13-2022 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222516)
All, start with this
Following the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965, the core bases of the two parties shifted, with the Southern states becoming more reliably Republican in presidential politics and the Northeastern states becoming more reliably Democratic.
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which disputes exactly nothing that was in my post.

republicans want blacks to get ahead.

democrats want to cripple blacks,,keep them addicted to
welfare, alive but utterly unable to escape poverty. keep them in the cities in lousy schools, pumping out babies with no dad around, creating a permanent underclass, but a reliable voting block.
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Pete F. 02-13-2022 08:18 PM

How about a quote from one of Nixon’s top advisors explaining their decision to launch the “War on Drugs.”
“You understand what I’m saying? We couldn’t make it illegal to be against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and the blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing them heavily, we could disrupt those communities.
We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings and vilify them on the nightly news.
Did we know we were lying about the drugs, of course we did.
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Jim in CT 02-13-2022 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222520)
How about a quote from one of Nixon’s top advisors explaining their decision to launch the “War on Drugs.”
“You understand what I’m saying? We couldn’t make it illegal to be against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and the blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing them heavily, we could disrupt those communities.
We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings and vilify them on the nightly news.
Did we know we were lying about the drugs, of course we did.
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wow an unnamed Nixon advisor.

How about president Lyndon Johnson saying “I’ll have those n*ggers voting for Democrats for 200 years”?

Pete, look at what i posted above in terms of democrat policy impacting blacks. and tell me what i said, which is wrong.

all you can do, is respond to something i never said.

look at what each side says about school choice. At Trump’s SOTU, republicans were going berserk at the news of low black unemployment. Remember how the democrats reacted? They sat on their hands, scowling.

If they want blacks to succeed,, please explain why they were miserable at low black unemployment.
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Pete F. 02-14-2022 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1222521)
wow an unnamed Nixon advisor.

How about president Lyndon Johnson saying “I’ll have those n*ggers voting for Democrats for 200 years”?

Pete, look at what i posted above in terms of democrat policy impacting blacks. and tell me what i said, which is wrong.

all you can do, is respond to something i never said.

look at what each side says about school choice. At Trump’s SOTU, republicans were going berserk at the news of low black unemployment. Remember how the democrats reacted? They sat on their hands, scowling.

If they want blacks to succeed,, please explain why they were miserable at low black unemployment.
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Explain why Republicans sat and didn’t rejoice when Barack Obama was President
Explain why Republicans think that no black woman is qualified to be a Supreme Court Justice

Explain why there are roughly 100k elected positions in the U.S.
and Republicans announced that 40 Blacks are running as GOPers, that is closer to zero than to even 1%. It's more likely that you'll be struck by lightning than represented by a Black Republican.

And the spectacular halfime show sure did rattle the GOP incel crowd.
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Jim in CT 02-14-2022 06:21 AM

Explain why Republicans think that no black woman is qualified to be a Supreme Court Justice
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again, what does it say that you cannot EVER answer the question that i asked?

no republican ever said that ( hearing voices again). what they’re saying, is that it’s wrong ( and obviously illegal) to ignore potentially better candidates based on gender and skin color

Lindsay Graham has come out and said that there’s one black woman a bunch or republicans would vote for.

I dare you to post evidence that any influential republican said that no black roman is qualified.
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PaulS 02-14-2022 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1222525)

no republican ever said that ( hearing voices again). what they’re saying, is that it’s wrong ( and obviously illegal) to ignore potentially better candidates based on gender and skin color


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Did they say that when Trump said he would only pick a candidate approved by the Federalist Society?

scottw 02-14-2022 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1222526)
Did they say that when Trump said he would only pick a candidate approved by the Federalist Society?

yeah, it would probably be wrong to discriminate based on whether or not a judge is a Constitutionalist or not when nominating one for the Supreme Court

wdmso 02-14-2022 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1222525)
Explain why Republicans think that no black woman is qualified to be a Supreme Court Justice
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again, what does it say that you cannot EVER answer the question that i asked?

no republican ever said that ( hearing voices again). what they’re saying, is that it’s wrong ( and obviously illegal) to ignore potentially better candidates based on gender and skin color

Lindsay Graham has come out and said that there’s one black woman a bunch or republicans would vote for.

I dare you to post evidence that any influential republican said that no black roman is qualified.
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Jim keep convincing yourself Republicans push back against a Black SJC pick is about “ a better candidate “

Just like changing for voter laws were for “ election integrity “ even in states Trump won. More like they are afraid of Turn out.

Texas counties reject unprecedented numbers of mail ballots ahead of March 1 primary under restrictive new law

To be eligible to vote early by mail in Texas, you must:

be 65 years or older;
be sick or disabled;
be out of the county on election day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance; or
be expected to give birth within three weeks before or after Election Day; or
be confined in jail, but otherwise eligible.

These must be the fraudsters Texas is after , most over 65 I would bet vote Republican
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Jim in CT 02-14-2022 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1222529)
again, what does it say that you cannot EVER answer the question that i asked?

no republican ever said that ( hearing voices again). what they’re saying, is that it’s wrong ( and obviously illegal) to ignore potentially better candidates based on gender and skin color

Lindsay Graham has come out and said that there’s one black woman a bunch or republicans would vote for.

I dare you to post evidence that any influential republican said that no black roman is qualified.
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Jim keep convincing yourself Republicans push back against a Black SJC pick is about “ a better candidate “

Just like changing for voter laws were for “ election integrity “ even in states Trump won. More like they are afraid of Turn out.

Texas counties reject unprecedented numbers of mail ballots ahead of March 1 primary under restrictive new law

To be eligible to vote early by mail in Texas, you must:

be 65 years or older;
be sick or disabled;
be out of the county on election day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance; or
be expected to give birth within three weeks before or after Election Day; or
be confined in jail, but otherwise eligible.

These must be the fraudsters Texas is after , most over 65 I would bet vote Republican
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i answered that question exactly as it was asked. i’m
sorry if you couldn’t comprehend it, but here is the answer again….no influential republican ever said that. To repeat, no influential republican said anything close to what pete claimed they are saying.

If there’s a highly qualified black female candidate, fine. buts it’s discrimination to say ahead of time that you’re excluding a huge number of people based on skin color and gender. How is that not discrimination?
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Pete F. 02-14-2022 08:55 AM

Every black candidate was eliminated from the list until 1967 and the same baloney was claimed then, much like 81 when the first woman was nominated.
There’s plenty of candidates more qualified than Kavanaugh or Barrett unless you can only pick from the Federalist Society list.
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Jim in CT 02-14-2022 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222531)
Every black candidate was eliminated from the list until 1967
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and by what logic do we punish white men today, for the fact that democrats prevented blacks from getting ahead for so long?

if a white male judge alive today, happens to be a descendent of someone who was killed fighting for the north in the civil
war, how on earth could
you conclude that he is responsible for the sins of the past?

you, and your liberal ilk, are talking about “collective guilt”, the idea that everyone who looks like past criminals, is guilty for what the criminal did.

That’s the exact opposite of the foundation of our system of justice.

Why not an asian woman? We have a black in the court, but we have no Asians. Why is that?
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Pete F. 02-14-2022 09:12 AM

You can feel guilty if you want.

The right wing’s infatuation with white grievance and increasing attraction to civil unrest at the expense of ordinary Americans is leading the GOP to increasingly perverse positions. Now, Republicans and their media cohorts root for economic distress, violence and disorder.
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PaulS 02-14-2022 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1222525)

no republican ever said that ( hearing voices again). what they’re saying, is that it’s wrong ( and obviously illegal) to ignore potentially better candidates based on gender and skin color


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I'll ask again. Did they say that when Trump said he would only pick a candidate approved by the Federalist Society?

And how about when Reagan said he would only pick a woman? Was it obviously illegal then?


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