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“my claim”, as opposed to exactly what she said. unbelievable, the denial. and i said i don’t see it as racist. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
“….but since I’m an originalist, I can’t possibly vote for a nominee that is only 3/5 of a Justice.”
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which party advocated for slavery? hint, it was the same party that advocated for segregation. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
The hardest part about renouncing the Republican Party was turning my back on the orgies and cocaine
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do you ever read your rantings? Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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A lot of the republicans i like (not all but a lot) spoke out very loudly against january 6. i dint think america wants to hear that all republicans were behind an armed coup. but that’s probably a better line for the left than talking about crime, immigration, inflation, etc… when some congressional democrats in 2016 tried to take the win from trump, i’m guessing you weren’t outraged. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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I don't know that anyone, other than people playing the victim card, thinks that all republicans are behind an armed coup, but as is gradually coming to light the people in and associated with the former administration were engaged in a coup and actively sought the assistance of violent participants. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sJDb02p0BE Madison Cawthorn on Jan. 6 admitted he was armed and had carried 'multiple weapons' in his wheelchair At least three people arrested in connection with the Capitol riot are facing gun charges, though the government has not alleged that those three were part of the actual breach of the building. Other defendants are suspected of possessing guns during the riot but, like the vast majority of the estimated 800 rioters, were not searched that day. Federal prosecutors say that Christopher Michael Alberts of Maryland was arrested on Capitol grounds on the evening of Jan. 6 while carrying a Taurus G2c 9 mm handgun with one round in the chamber and a full 12-round magazine. He also allegedly had an extra magazine in his pocket and was carrying a gas mask, pocket knife and first-aid kit. Lonnie Leroy Coffman of Alabama was also arrested that evening after law enforcement found two firearms on his person, as well as what a federal judge referred to as a "small armory" in his truck, which was parked near the Capitol. According to the court, the government found "a loaded handgun," "a loaded rifle," "a loaded shotgun," "a crossbow with bolts," "several machetes," "a stun gun" and "11 mason jars containing a flammable liquid, with a hole punched in the top of each jar." According to the government, surveillance footage showed him "in attendance at the events at the Capitol," though he has not been charged with breaching the building. Cleveland Grover Meredith of North Carolina planned to arrive in D.C. for the Trump rallies on Jan. 6, according to federal prosecutors, but he was delayed because of car trouble. He was arrested the following day for allegedly assaulting a man in Washington, D.C., in a traffic-related incident and for making death threats against the D.C. mayor and Pelosi. During a search, law enforcement said they found in his possession "a Glock 19, nine millimeter pistol, a Tavor X95 assault rifle and approximately hundreds of rounds of ammunition." Citing text messages sent by Meredith, a federal prosecutor argued in court that he "relished in the carnage of January 6th." |
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There's zero evidence that most people there were involved in the same conspiracy. Z-E-R-O. Let's be clear, I hope that one of the 85 investigations into Trump turns up enough that he cannot run again. Because I really don't want him to run again. But a Harvard poll has Trump beating Pudding Brain by 7. Last I checked, Harvard isn't a right-wing institution. Fascinating. Its fascinating. America liked Obama, but didn't like his agenda, to the point that when Obama left, Democrats held fewer elected offices that at any time since the end of the Civil War. That's fact. Funny how the left never, ever talks bout that. But that's what happened. America hated Trump, but liked his agenda, that resulted in his getting creamed in a landslide. I'm not sure what America thinks of Biden personally, but polls suggest they can't stand his performance. America can't seem to decide the balance it wants in its POTUS, between personal integrity and the ability to improve life for Americans. |
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chicken is slated to go up 70% year over year, and all he wants to talk about us january 6. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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I can imagine exactly what would have happened if Trump had been reelected. His genius buddy Putin would have walked into Ukraine and have been applauded by the people he financed and supported. |
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what’s your proof of that? Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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But with Biden’s polling, MANY democrats and those in the media are clearly reacting to a belief that a shellacking is coming. only the real zealots are in denial at this point. the polling in this case is what an honest person would expect given what’s going on. once in 40 year inflation. no president can oversee that and not take a hit, whether it’s his fault or not. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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In a memo seeking the pretrial detention of Oath Keeper Ed Vallejo — one of 11 members of the group charged last week with seditious conspiracy to violently prevent Joe Biden from taking office — prosecutors provided new details about the weapons stockpile Oath Keepers had assembled at a Comfort Inn in nearby Arlington, Va. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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so, you have zero way to connect those who had guns on january 6th, with any conspiracy. in other words, you made up that connection, to paint conservatives in a negative light. with all the stupid things conservatives do, there is t enough actual truth you can point to, to make them look bad? you have to never more stuff? time to ask yourself some questions Pete. like, why are conservatives slightly more charitable and generous than liberals? if we’re all pure evil, why is that? Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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BC they give to their private schools and churches that most people don't have access to. |
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the catholic church has big expenses, church buildings, schools, hospitals, etc. They are also one of the worlds largest providers of charitable services. Food banks, homeless shelters, medical clinics, adoption services, etc. the united way also has buildings and employees. as does the Red Cross. as does the clinton foundation. yet you only single out church donations as not really charity. because you’re desperate to disprove the fact that you happen to find inconvenient. conservatives make less many than liberals, yet they aren’t stingy. pete’s brain can’t handle that . Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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If anyone wants to give $ to churches and schools bc they attend, it is somewhat self serving. You fail to acknowledge that in your constant rants that conserv. give "slightly" more $. |
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"Pls, point out where I said it is not really charity?" You said this, Paul, in the same post for Gods sake..."If anyone wants to give $ to churches and schools bc they attend, it is somewhat self serving." Self-serving, isn't charity. I can only speak to the Catholic Church. Every Sunday, my church has 2 collections, one for charity, one to go towards regular expenses associated with the church. The church has to pay utilities and buy food for the priests and pay maintenance on the buildings, and my church runs a school which is unbelievably expensive yet they only charge tuition of $5,000 for a school with 10 kids to a class which blows away public schools (which can spend 4x more per kid) on standardized tests. And anyone can enjoy the church, not just those who donate. Anyone can go to a mass and enjoy any spiritual benefits they derive, and that probably doesn't mean much to liberals these days, but it's meaningful to catholics. Maybe the church you go to, uses all its donations for self-serving reasons, but that doesn't mean all churches do. |
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Paul, for the purposes of disproving everything Pete believes, we can exclude all religious-based giving from this conversation. If you exclude all that, it would still show that conservatives aren't the greedy, heartless nazis that Pete believes we all are. "I feel better giving to save the children then I do for giving $ to my churches men club which is remodeling our meeting room." So would I. But every charity has expenses it has to cover. |
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11 charged with seditious conspiracy They had a weapons cache in a hotel and people ready to move them Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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paul, liberals also make donations to ivy league schools which have endowments in the tens of billions. so if you’re going to ding conservatives because not every cent of tax deductible charity is feeding the poor, at least make the same adjustment to liberal donations which are equally frivolous. again, my point isn’t that conservatives are superior. just that we aren’t anywhere near what that idiot lunatic thinks we are. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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11. 11 outbid how many who were there, tens of thousands? again, you never made a peep about the armed BLM rioters, who unlike the January 6 rioters, actually killed people. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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ZERO. exactly, precisely zero. How many were murdered during the BLM protests? 10 or so? you have not, nor will ever, criticize the much more destructive BLM riots. because you don’t care about riots or property damage ior murder. you care about painting democrats in a favorable light. That’s it. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
In November 2020, days after the election, Rhodes, the leader of the Oath Keepers,
began disseminating messages to other Oath Keepers members and affiliates delegitimizing the results of the election and encouraging them to forcibly oppose the lawful transfer of presidential power. See Indictment at ¶ 18(a) (telling those on the “Leadership intel sharing secured” chat (hereafter “Leadership Intel Chat”), on November 5, that they “MUST refuse to accept Biden as a legitimate winner” and warning, “We aren’t getting through this without a civil war. Too late for that. Prepare your mind, body, spirit.”). Rhodes circulated and highlighted an eight-step plan, allegedly from a Serbian contact to overthrow the government, which included: (i) peaceful protest, (ii) complete civil disobedience, (iii) connecting with the police and organizing neighborhoods, (iv) swarming the streets and confronting opponents, (v) gathering in the capitol and discarding barricades, (vi) police joining with the protestors after initial violence, (vii) storming parliament, and (viii) destroying the state media. Id. Rhodes followed this plan in the months after the presidential election. At his direction, certain members of his organization began preparing for operations inside of Washington, D.C. Indictment at ¶ 21. He further organized deadly weapons to aid in the conspiracy. Heavily armed QRF teams would be minutes away, just outside the Capitol, ready to support those on the ground. Id. at ¶¶ 42-45. All contingency plans were considered. The conspirators even sought to ferry lethal weapons from Virginia by boat into the Capitol, if the bridges were closed. Id. at ¶ 52 In December 2020, Rhodes focused his co-conspirators on the Certification proceeding of January 6, 2021. During a December 22 interview with a regional Oath Keepers leader, Rhodes described January 6 as “a hard constitutional deadline” for stopping the transfer of presidential power and warned that if President-Elect Biden were to assume the presidency, “We will have to do a bloody, massively bloody revolution against them.” Indictment at ¶ 30. On December 23, Rhodes published an open letter on the Oath Keepers website in which he noted that, on January 6, “tens of thousands of patriot Americans, both veterans and non-veterans, will already be in Washington D.C., and many of us will have our mission-critical gear stowed nearby just outside D.C.” Id. at ¶ 31. Rhodes warned in the open letter that he and others may have to “take to arms in defense of our God given liberty.” Id. Rhodes and his co-conspirators created and administered Signal chats with titles like “DC OP: Jan 6 21” and “OKFL Hangout” for coordinating their plans for January 6. Indictment at ¶¶ 38-40. They utilized encrypted messaging applications for these planning chats and stressed the need for operational security. See, e.g., id. at ¶ 27. The coconspirators discussed being prepared to use violence to stop the “usurpers” from taking control and what weapons they would bring and plans for the QRF. Id. at ¶ 41-56, 58-60. On December 25, Rhodes wrote to the OKFL Hangout Chat, “I think Congress will screw him [President Trump] over. The only chance we/he has is if we scare the #^&#^&#^&#^& out of them and convince them it will be torches and pitchforks time is they don’t do the right thing. But I don’t think they will listen.” Id. at ¶ 34. Rhodes went on to say, “And he [President Trump] needs to know that if he fails to act, then we will. He needs to understand that we will have no choice.” On December 31, one week before the Capitol attack, Rhodes wrote to the Leadership Intel Chat, “There is no standard political or legal way out of this.” B. Vallejo and His Co-Conspirators Prepared an Armed QRF To Support the Plot to Stop the Transfer of Power Vallejo and his co-conspirators coordinated at least three regional QRF teams stationed at a Comfort Inn in Arlington, Virginia, to support the co-conspirators’ plot and the January 6 Capitol attack. Indictment at ¶¶ 45-49. The QRF teams guarded an arsenal of firearms and related equipment and were prepared to speed those weapons into the hands of co-conspirators on the ground in Washington, D.C., when directed by Rhodes or other conspiracy leaders. Id. Vallejo served on one of those QRF teams. On December 31, 2020, Vallejo’s Arizona QRF team member messaged Rhodes on Signal that Vallejo and others were coming to Washington, D.C., and that “everyone has their own technical equipment and knows how to use it,” adding a “winky face” emoji. Indictment at ¶ 44. Rhodes responded, “awesome!” Id. The Arizona QRF team member also said that Vallejo and the group would have “rifles” and “man power.” Id. On January 3, 2021, Rhodes informed a co-conspirator on Signal, “We WILL have a QRF. this situation calls for it.” Indictment at ¶ 50. In the following days, coconspirators communicated and implemented plans to bring weapons to the Comfort Inn. Id. at ¶¶ 58-59, 63-65, 68-69. Vallejo messaged co-conspirator and Florida team lead Kelly Meggs, “Sir, Ed Vallejo of Arizona in Tenn. With cadre requesting coordinates to Allied encampment outside DC boundaries to rendezvous. Please respond ASAP. For the Republic.” On January 5, Vallejo messaged Meggs again, “Please text location so we will know where to begin in the morning.” Meggs responded with the address of the Comfort Inn Ballston, where the co-conspirators staged their multiple QRF teams. The day before the attack on the Capitol, on January 5, Meggs and his Florida team dropped off at least three luggage carts’ worth of gun boxes, rifle cases, and suitcases filled with ammunition with their QRF team. A second QRF team from North Carolina consisted of four men who kept their rifles ready to go in a vehicle parked in the hotel lot. Later, Vallejo and other members of the Arizona QRF team wheeled in bags and large bins of weapons, ammunition, and essential supplies to last 30 days—as seen in the QRF hotel surveillance stills below, showing Vallejo on the left and his Arizona QRF team member on the right: |
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Jan 6 was a coordinated attack on the Capitol, planned months in advance and with the knowledge of people inside the administration. |
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"why are conservatives slightly more charitable and generous than liberals" |
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there’s no way to make a case that conservatives are meaningfully less caring about the poor, than liberals. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
Conservatives are happier than liberals - but only because they lack empathy
Conservatives are happier than liberals - but only because they lack empathy Conservatives are happier than liberals - but only because they lack empathy https://www.thejournal.ie/conservati...71962-Sep2014/ Conservatives don't like yucky stuff https://www.businessinsider.com/libe...erently-2018-1 Empathy and the Liberal-Conservative Political Divide in the U.S. https://jspp.psychopen.eu/index.php/...icle/view/5209 Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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But you sure can insinuate that Jan6 was a coup or an insurrection. It's what you do--a constant flow of propaganda. |
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It takes time to build a conspiracy case. And your obfuscation of the facts that continue to emerge in court filings is wishful thinking. On the anniversary of January 6, Merrick Garland explained that all of the arrests from the first year had laid the foundation for more complex cases. This is the kind of thing he was talking about: working your way up through Mark Grods to Joshua James to Stewart Rhodes to Roger Stone, taking the time to crack and exploit Tarrio’s phone, exploiting early access to Straka’s comms to get to the organizers. The investigation “aperture” hasn’t changed; what has changed is DOJ has acquired information it needed before it could take the next step. As I said before, patience Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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As for Jan6, at this point, there seems to be different actors in different groups, or solo, doing different things with different motives. Some may actually, EVENTUALLY, be convicted of various things you hope for. But to frame the whole rally as a singular coordinated conspiracy for some singularly desired result, is premature, or just politically driven narrative. PATIENCE. |
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democrats tried to steal trump win i. 2016 bu challenging state results with zero evidence, that was ok, because shut up. and the BLM riots were a benign event, also because shut up. And Biden will end up on Mt Rushmore. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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There are many people charged with crimes at the capital on January 6th. Some have ALREADY been convicted of conspiring to overturn the election. Just keep denying You’ve been doing it for years I think you forget that Mueller prosecuted Trump's coffee boy, Campaign Manager and his Deputy, personal lawyer, National Security Advisor and rat-#^&#^&#^&#^&er, plus referring a case against his top donor, Tom Barrack, who is currently being prosecuted. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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