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Pete F. 07-15-2022 06:00 AM

Jim
What penalty do you want for abortion?

Simple question
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wdmso 07-15-2022 06:48 AM

National Right to Life official: 10-year-old should have had baby

She would have had the baby, and as many women who have had babies as a result of rape, we would hope that she would understand the reason and ultimately the benefit of having the child,” Bopp said

Wake people I only see one side using using her rape to forward their agenda ! The other side told you this would happen and sadly they were correct

Tyranny of the Minority
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wdmso 07-15-2022 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1229438)
the photo doesn’t do that.

would you rather be in foster care, or slaughtered in the womb?

simple question.
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Jim unlike you I live in what’s called reality. And understand a fetus is not self aware with the ability to choose either or !

Next it will be a crime to make knuckle babies in the shower . Suggesting they should have a choice
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wdmso 07-15-2022 07:25 AM

Doctor told the state she performed abortion on 10-year-old girl, document shows

The release of the document comes after Indiana's attorney general said he would investigate the physician, claiming without providing evidence that she has a history of failing to report abortions as required under Indiana law.


With out evidence we see that a lot from Republicans and conservatives accuser’s


Seems Republicans AG have problems with the Truth and who seem to want to use the office against people they don’t agree with!

Wasn’t aware that was the Job of a State AG
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wdmso 07-15-2022 07:33 AM

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) Thursday refused to apologize for a tweet he deleted that branded as “another lie” the story about a 10-year-old Ohio girl who had to travel out of state to get an abortion after being raped.

He excuse. I was commenting on a news story,” We never questioned the child,” Jordan said.

What happened was we found out ...this heinous crime (did happen),” Jordan said. “So we deleted the tweet.”
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wdmso 07-15-2022 10:10 AM

from the Texas Freedom Caucus

A law firm in Texas pledged to reimburse the travel costs of employees who leave Texas to murder their unborn children. We are putting them and others on notice of the illegality and consequences of their actions


More examples Of how the Texas only respect the freedoms they agree with

scottw 07-15-2022 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1229446)

Jim unlike you I live in what’s called reality.

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this is one of the funniest things ever written here....

PaulS 07-15-2022 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1229181)
Will anyone in the left apologize for the way these guys were smeared?

President Biden? Will he correct the record? he went on and i. about the racist injustice of whipping these poor folks.

Duke lacrosse case, officer wilson, the covington catholic kids, UVA rape case, Kyle Rittenhouse, and in, and on, and on.

Did you see the Indiana AG vowed to investigate the Ind. Dr. suggesting the doctor may have even engaged in criminal misconduct?

Turns out the Dr. filed a terminated pregnancy report and filed the report within the required timeframe. This was determined through a routine public records request — a step the Indiana attorney general’s office could’ve taken before he started accusing the doctor of wrongdoing. I wonder if he'll apologize for smearing the Dr or does he not have to bc he is on the right?

The Dad Fisherman 07-15-2022 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1229453)
this is one of the funniest things ever written here....

He’s a regular Walter Mitty
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scottw 07-15-2022 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1229455)

I wonder if he'll apologize for smearing the Dr or does he not have to bc he is on the right?

smearing the doctor? that's funny

creating a story during the confirmation process that a Supreme Court nominee ran rape trains is smearing someone....

saying that your office will make sure all of the reporting, paperwork, HIPAA was done properly regarding a 10 year old transported across state lines for an abortion in what is now national news thanks to a couple of political activists is ....doing your job....

you can see the difference...right?

Pete F. 07-15-2022 10:05 PM

Are parents now going to need identity cards and negative pregnancy tests to cross state lines?
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wdmso 07-16-2022 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1229461)
smearing the doctor? that's funny

creating a story during the confirmation process that a Supreme Court nominee ran rape trains is smearing someone....

saying that your office will make sure all of the reporting, paperwork, HIPAA was done properly regarding a 10 year old transported across state lines for an abortion in what is now national news thanks to a couple of political activists is ....doing your job....

you can see the difference...right?

Ya Scott that’s all he was saying,and doing he was searching for the truth ..

seems your version of reality is also questionable


Try looking up what HIPAA actually means

Ps the doctor stating they preformed an abortion on a 10 year old is not a HIPAA violation

But criminal charges against people who travel outside of their state ! Is actually the real threat to privacy and HIPPA ..

But keep deflecting Your good at it
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Pete F. 07-16-2022 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1229461)
smearing the doctor? that's funny

creating a story during the confirmation process that a Supreme Court nominee ran rape trains is smearing someone....

saying that your office will make sure all of the reporting, paperwork, HIPAA was done properly regarding a 10 year old transported across state lines for an abortion in what is now national news thanks to a couple of political activists is ....doing your job....

you can see the difference...right?

You’re wrong
1. “The people telling you the 10-year-old could get an abortion in Ohio are ignorant or lying,” White wrote, noting Ohio allowed no exceptions for rape, incest, or age of the mother. Doctors might conclude a pregnant girl so young met the statute’s exceptions for risk to the mother’s life or “serious risk of substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function,” but, he argued, it was far from clear legally, and a lawyer would be a “fool” to advise a doctor to go forward and risk the loss of their license, lawsuits, and prison.

2. “If so-called doctors are covering up child rape, they need to be prosecuted,” Watters declared, as Bernard’s photo was displayed with the label, “FAILURE TO REPORT?”

“So, is a criminal charge next and will Dr. Bernard lose her license?” he eagerly asked Rokita.

Rokita assured Watters that his office did indeed plan to burn the witch.

“We’re gathering the information, we’re gathering the evidence as we speak and we’re going to fight this to the end — including looking at her licensure, if she failed to report” the child’s abuse, the attorney general vowed. “I’m not letting it go.”

“DOC FAILED TO REPORT ABORTION OF ABUSE VICTIM,” the Fox News chyron declared Bernard guilty while her picture split the screen with Rokita.

Rokita made good on his pledge Thursday, issuing a statement declaring his office’s investigation into Bernard with potential criminal prosecution, action against her medical license, and a HIPAA violation.

The Washington Post’s Radley Balko, who frequently covers criminal justice issues, tweeted that Fox News was “either actively trying to get [Bernard] killed, or just don’t give a damn that they’re putting her in danger.”

3. Ryan Mears, the chief prosecutor for Marion County, Indiana, was highly critical of Rokita investigating Bernard when it was known that the rape had already been reported in Ohio, telling Sarnoff that the state law requires abuse to be reported, but “does not particularly state that Indiana law enforcement has to be notified.”

“It’s unfortunate that a doctor who provides legal medical treatment to a victim who needs help is now subject to this level of intimidation,” he added, which “erodes trust and the public’s confidence in institutions.”

4. Bernard did make a timely report.

On Thursday, various Indiana media outlets began posting documents they had obtained in response to public records requests, showing Barnard had filed her report on July 2, two days after the girl’s June 30 abortion (Indiana law required her to report by July 3).

Watters has yet to acknowledge that the witch hunt announced and promoted on his show was a sham.

“Bernard did no more than identify the girl’s age,” wrote Sarnoff, not her name, exact birthdate, physical description, address, date of treatment, or other identifying detail. “[I]t would be nearly impossible to identify a patient by their age alone…the sharing of an anonymized vignette about a patient’s medical treatments generally does not offend HIPAA.”

There are still unanswered questions about this case, but the witch hunts did nothing to spare the girl further suffering, nor did they alter the reality that we cannot morally or ethically demand that a 10-year-old give birth.
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scottw 07-16-2022 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229475)

There are still unanswered questions about this case

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yes, it is very sad that a doctor made this public for political reasons....

wdmso 07-17-2022 10:43 AM

Ted Cruz, R-Texas, says he believes the Supreme Court was "clearly wrong" when it decided in a 2015 ruling that same-sex marriage was legal under the Constitution.

Surprise surprise who didn’t see this coming,
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scottw 07-17-2022 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229475)
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The Washington Post’s Radley Balko, who frequently covers criminal justice issues, tweeted that Fox News was “either actively trying to get [Bernard] killed, or just don’t give a damn that they’re putting her in danger.”


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ummmm.....Lizzy Warren is calling for all of the abortion crisis centers in the country to be shut down for torturing pregnant women,,,,,and she sounded pretty angry so she's probably advocating violence.....well...more violence than they are already experiencing

Pete F. 07-17-2022 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1229476)
yes, it is very sad that a doctor made this public for political reasons....

When Republicans are trying to block interstate travel for women and girls seeking reproductive healthcare, you need to believe they want a police state version of Handmaid’s Tale and vote blue.
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Pete F. 07-17-2022 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1229493)
ummmm.....Lizzy Warren is calling for all of the abortion crisis centers in the country to be shut down for torturing pregnant women,,,,,and she sounded pretty angry so she's probably advocating violence.....well...more violence than they are already experiencing

Here is a brief look at the history of deadly violence against abortion clinics, their staff members, patients and their guests in the United States and Canada.

The First Abortion Doctor Killed: David Gunn
Dr. David Gunn was shot and killed by an opponent of abortion during a protest outside his clinic in Pensacola, Fla. His death was the first known killing of an abortion provider in the United States, according to the National Abortion Federation, an advocacy group.

The gunman, Michael F. Griffin, shot Dr. Gunn three times in the back as he approached the rear entrance of the clinic, and Mr. Griffin turned himself over to the police just moments later, telling them, “I’ve just shot Dr. Gunn.”

Mr. Griffin was convicted of the murder in March 1994 and was sentenced to life in prison.

The murder of Dr. Gunn was not the first time that Pensacola had been the site of anti-abortion violence, and it would not be the last. On Christmas Day in 1984, two doctors’ offices and a clinic were bombed by opponents of abortion who were later arrested, convicted and jailed.

I can go on for years about the domestic terrorism conducted against womens healthcare providers
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scottw 07-17-2022 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229495)

I can go on for years ....


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I'm sure you will...

Pete F. 07-17-2022 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1229497)
I'm sure you will...

The anti abortion killers did

George Tiller, Twice a Target, Is Killed in 2009
Dr. George Tiller, one of the few doctors in the United States who provided abortions late in pregnancy, was a frequent target of anti-abortion violence and was killed in 2009 by Scott Roeder as he stood in the foyer of his church.

A witness who was serving as an usher alongside Dr. Tiller at the church that day told the court that Mr. Roeder entered the foyer, put a gun to the doctor’s head and pulled the trigger.

At trial, Mr. Roeder admitted to killing Dr. Tiller and said he did it to protect unborn babies. He was convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to life in prison. At his sentencing, he told the court that God’s judgment would ”sweep over this land like a prairie wind.”

Dr. Tiller was shot once before, in 1993, by Shelley Shannon, an anti-abortion activist who compared abortion providers to Hitler and said she believed that “justifiable force” was necessary to stop abortions.

Ms. Shannon was sentenced to 10 years in prison for the shooting of Dr. Tiller and later confessed to vandalizing and burning a string of abortion clinics in California, Nevada and Oregon.
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wdmso 07-17-2022 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1229493)
ummmm.....Lizzy Warren is calling for all of the abortion crisis centers in the country to be shut down for torturing pregnant women,,,,,and she sounded pretty angry so she's probably advocating violence.....well...more violence than they are already experiencing

And of course you left this critical part of the story

U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren is calling for the state and federal government to crack down on “crisis pregnancy centers,” which she says pretend to offer legitimate abortion services, but instead gather personal information and then harass pregnant women seeking the procedure.


And of course if a women gets angry she’s out of control

she sounded pretty angry so she's probably advocating violence
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scottw 07-17-2022 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1229505)

which she says pretend to offer legitimate abortion services, but instead gather personal information and then harass pregnant women seeking the procedure.

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must be hard to stay in business with that business model, I'm surprised there are any....and...we know Lizzy likes to make stuff up and spin tales...and is often angry and indignant

Pete F. 07-17-2022 08:03 PM

She can be
Asked whether a 12-year-old child molested by a family member should carry a pregnancy to term, Mississippi Speaker Philip Gunn replied, “That is my personal belief.”
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scottw 07-18-2022 04:59 AM

I can't keep track of all of the state laws, is it true that in Mississippi you can still get an abortion through nearly the first 4 months of pregnancy(15 weeks)?

wdmso 07-18-2022 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1229509)
must be hard to stay in business with that business model, I'm surprised there are any....and...we know Lizzy likes to make stuff up and spin tales...and is often angry and indignant

Of course you heard She wanted to close all crisis centers… seems you and Fox. Ran this story minus the details was for as you say “made this public for political reasons...”.

It’s funny you call out warren for making things up, and the Jan 6th committee are of course are also making things up, but you seem to skip over what conservatives make up

See a pattern ?
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The Dad Fisherman 07-18-2022 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1229516)

See a pattern ?
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Yes, it always comes back to Jan. 6th and Trump.......ALWAYS :rolleyes:
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scottw 07-18-2022 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1229516)
Of course you heard She wanted to close all crisis centers… seems you and Fox. Ran this story minus the details was for as you say “made this public for political reasons...”.

It’s funny you call out warren for making things up, and the Jan 6th committee are of course are also making things up, but you seem to skip over what conservatives make up

See a pattern ?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPNmD0fGa9U


she's upset that they out number the serious abortion centers in Mass 3 to 1...."shut them down in Massachusetts and shut them down all across the country"

listening to her is torture....:laughs:

scottw 07-18-2022 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1229516)

“made this public for political reasons...”.


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she's speaking in front of a bunch of microphones...I believe that is public

scottw 07-18-2022 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1229518)
Yes, it always comes back to Jan. 6th and Trump.......ALWAYS :rolleyes:
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cult-like....:btu:

The Dad Fisherman 07-18-2022 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1229519)

listening to her is torture....:laughs:

Still, she persisted.....

Kinda wish she'd stop persisting
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Pete F. 07-18-2022 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1229522)
Still, she persisted.....

Kinda wish she'd stop persisting
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Well, she is an elected official.
And apparently the majority of her constituents disagree with you.
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scottw 07-18-2022 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229523)
Well, she is an elected official.
And apparently the majority of her constituents disagree with you.
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she can try to shut down all of these rogue clinics in Mass that somehow outnumber her favored legitimate clinics 3 to 1 and apparently continue operating unregulated and in violation of the Geneva Convention if she wants to try and her constituents agree......when it comes to other states she should stfu...nobody there(other states) elected her to anything

The Dad Fisherman 07-18-2022 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229523)
Well, she is an elected official.
And apparently the majority of her constituents disagree with you.
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And still…..you persisted
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Pete F. 07-18-2022 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1229524)
she can try to shut down all of these rogue clinics in Mass that somehow outnumber her favored legitimate clinics 3 to 1 and apparently continue operating unregulated and in violation of the Geneva Convention if she wants to try and her constituents agree......when it comes to other states she should stfu...nobody there(other states) elected her to anything

And did they ask you?
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wdmso 07-18-2022 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1229518)
Yes, it always comes back to Jan. 6th and Trump.......ALWAYS :rolleyes:
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Keep rolling those eyes still upset he didn’t succeed in his coup ..

But But Warrens voice and OMG someone trying to protect women from fraud For you and Scott Shea the real danger to America …

But of course I am imagining things again
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The Dad Fisherman 07-18-2022 03:43 PM

You’re an idiot
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wdmso 07-19-2022 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1229529)
You’re an idiot
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Is that a denial ? Our one your usual substantive responses
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scottw 07-19-2022 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1229532)

Our one your usual substantive responses


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never fails....:rotf2:

The Dad Fisherman 07-19-2022 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1229532)
Is that a denial ? Our one your usual substantive responses
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Just stating a fact :rolleyes:
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Pete F. 07-19-2022 11:09 AM

I see the retarded faction of imbeciles and morons is now feeling superior by calling others idiots.

Impressive
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