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Not enough electricity for todays needs, yet they want everyone to drive electric vehicles soon, and are of course adamantly opposed to nuclear power or coal to generate the additional needed electricity. |
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telling you you’re wrong, i have solar panels and a Nissan Leaf. yet you keep saying it for some reason. i’m waiting for any and all ideas which work. You’re waiting for whatever comes out of the mouth of democrats. |
wdmso, here’s the downside to going way too far, way too fast…
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...sis-warning-us |
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you are a sheep Jim and fox is your shepherd your EXPERTS are Rystad Energy is an independent energy research and business intelligence company headquartered in Oslo, Norway. It is the biggest independent energy consultancy in Norway, and a world-leading analysis company for the oil and gas industry 'There's been under-investment in fossil fuels in Europe,' an analyst from research firm Rystad Energy tells FOX Business EU Power Market Not Working Thanks to Putin, Von Der Leyen Says Von der Leyen blamed the record price increases on Russia's invasion of Ukraine which has upended global energy markets but added that the crisis was evidence the bloc needed to transition further to green energy. Russia has throttled natural gas supplies to Europe in response to the EU's sanction packages introduced following the February invasion. |
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why is there a possible shortage .. i'll give you a hint it's not EV's All we just get is another comment from the peanut gallery . :shocked: |
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All we just get is another comment based on something that was never said :shocked: Shocking Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
Who’s adamantly opposed to nuclear?
As for coal it’s been uneconomical for a while and pretty much all developed countries are trying to not use it, I doubt you’ll find anyone willing to invest the money to bring it back. I’m old enough to remember off peak rates and using it for domestic hot water and electric heat. In the same vein, some power companies are now funding on site battery storage, charged with solar OR off peak power. It can then be used to reduce peak grid demand and is also available for power outages. Don’t panic, it will get there in a number of ways. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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Try to follow Wayne... Today, there isn't enough electricity for CA's current demand. Yet the state is mandating that soon no more gas vehicles can be sold new, so that means there will be more EVs, which means energy needs will meaningfully increase. People who live in the real world, would say that before you switch people to EVs, it's a good idea to make sure you have the infastructure to support that. Ideologues don't worry about such trivial details. |
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Stupid people. Including a majority on your side. From the Gallup poll... "Democrats continue to be far less likely than Republicans to favor using it. The pattern is in line with Democratic-leaning environmental groups' long-standing opposition to nuclear power; this has been focused on concerns about the environmental risks posed by nuclear waste and accidents, as well as their preference for renewable energy such as wind, solar and geothermal. Currently, 39% of Democrats versus 60% of Republicans and 53% of independents favor nuclear energy" https://news.gallup.com/poll/392831/...ar-energy.aspx |
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Jim you don’t live in the real world you live in your world You can’t even see peoples intent with their posts . With the same tired excuses if I didn’t spell it out exactly I didn’t mean it. The request to reduce power consumption is do to excessive heat And expected use of what’s called air conditioners And no way ties in to no new gas cars by 2035 Caused by you guessed it climate change. We have the infrastructure for EVs we don’t have the infrastructure for extreme climate events . But don’t let facts get in your way And Read an actual news story from someplace other than fox or the Washington examiner Oh look Virginia revealed it is bound by a 2021 state law to also phase out gas-powered cars by 2035. However, Attorney General Jason Miyares’s (R) office said in a statement it hopes the state repeals the law Republicans once again going against voters This year, Dodge announced announced it would discontinue gas-powered muscle cars the Charger and Challenger. Conservatives clinging to the past like a rat clinging to a sinking ship Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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How do you know that the conditions creating today’s need, won’t also exist when everyone has EVs? youre making some big assumptions. “we have the infastructure for EVs” we have enough charging stations for tens of millions of EVs, and enough power to charge them? sure we do wdmso. |
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Don’t panic, it will get there in a number of ways. It’s impossible, is not one of them. In a hundred years we went from horse and buggy to a man on the moon, and it seems you still think the earth is flat. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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The average age of U.S. commercial nuclear power reactors that were operational as of December 31, 2021, was about 40 years. The oldest operating reactor is Nine Mile Point 1 in New York, which entered commercial service in December 1969. The newest reactor to enter service is Tennessee’s Watts Bar Unit 2, which began operation in June 2016. The next-youngest operating reactor is Watts Bar Unit 1, also in Tennessee, which entered service in May 1996. cost is nuclear's Achilles' heel. Modern-day reactors have become jarringly expensive to build, going for $5 billion to $10 billion a pop. Worse, the price tag seems to be rising in many places. Back in the 1960s, new reactors in the US were one of the cheaper energy sources around. Two decades later, after a series of missteps, those costs had increased sixfold — a big reason we stopped building plants. EIA calculates overnight construction costs for new US power plants ordered in 2014. Advanced nuclear reactors are estimated to cost $5,366 for every kilowatt of capacity. That means a large 1-gigawatt reactor would cost around $5.4 billion to build, excluding financing costs. By contrast, a new wind farm costs just $1,980 per kilowatt. A new gas plant costs just $912 per kilowatt, or one-fifth as much. (This isn't a perfect comparison, since reactors run at capacity more often than wind farms or gas plants. But even if you adjust for capacity factors, those construction costs make nuclear uncompetitive. High upfront costs can also scare off investors.) Keep thinking it’s liberals fault |
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In your world airplanes cars and trains and their infrastructure all showed up at the same time , I guess highways bridges also just happened The infrastructure for EV will follow its logical path like the rest of history’s inventions .. and here I thought your horse a buggy thing was a joke seems your seriously upset to have left that behind |
"France to build up to 14 new nuclear reactors by 2050, says Macron. Emmanuel Macron has announced a “renaissance” for the French nuclear industry with a vast programme to build as many as 14 new reactors, arguing that it would help end the country's reliance on fossil fuels and make France carbon neutral by 2050." Feb 10, 2022
"California's last nuclear plant – scheduled to fully shut down by 2025 – has been given renewed life. California lawmakers voted on Wednesday to delay the closure of the Diablo Canyon facility by five years, after the governor warned the state could face rolling blackouts if its twin reactors were retired too soon." 1 day ago |
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I am sure this 5 year extension in based on current energy prices worldwide France isn’t the USA United States they always built nuclear plants France’s minister for energy transition said Friday that French electricity giant EDF has committed to restart all its nuclear reactors by this winter to help the country through the broad energy crisis aggravated by the war in Ukraine. France relies on nuclear energy for about 67% of its electricity – more than any other country – and on gas for about 7%. So do you have a point |
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they delayed shuttering the nuclear plant in California becuase it would cause power outages "The governor pushed for the extension in the final days of the legislative session in an attempt to maintain a steady power supply and avoid the politically damaging prospect of power outages." |
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Now you’re upset the US has supported Ukraine and not spending that money here at home. Which you would of course be against . Once they tried to spend it . Yelling no socialism Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
wayne, biden said today “I don’t consider ANY Trump supporter to be a threat to democracy.”
that’s the opposite of what he said last night. They are mutually exclusive statements. they can’t both be correct. he said today that no one who supports trump is a threat to democracy. |
So we can subsidize Gender Studies degrees, but Power Plants to provide the energy we will need for the EV’s the Gubment is mandating we drive, is a deal breaker. Got It…..sounds logical
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The Senate bill makes it possible for PG&E to apply to keep the two reactors open through October 2029 and October 2030, respectively. The nuclear power plant was slated to shut down largely due to anti-nuclear sentiment in the state and a preference for building out renewable power sources, like wind and solar. |
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america isn’t europe. we don’t like public transportation. we like the freedom of cars. |
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Lewis Mumford predicted in 1958 that Americans would discover that the highway program will, eventually, wipe out the very area of freedom that the private motorcar promised to retain for them. This warning has come to pass. Today, the car embodies the freedom to wait in traffic. Transportation choices hardly exist. Viable transit systems exist in only a few big cities, service is usually infrequent, inconvenient, and expensive, and is being drastically undermined by fare increases and service cutbacks. Gasoline is one of the few things that are cheaper today in real dollars than 20 years ago. Mass transit travel is many times more expensive. Development patterns make transit travel difficult, even for those who prefer it, and unavailable to most. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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here in CT we spent hundreds of millions of dollars paving 9 miles of road and built a busway into hartford. there’s no traffic, as only the buses can ride in it. the buses are cheap to ride, subsidized by the state. they are state of the art low emission buses. and nobody rides them. |
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And the people who took 11,448 average weekday local and express passenger trips were not in cars. Ridership is increasing, but go ahead and rant. Remember we all subsidize roads and the fossil fuel industry. Utah has an extensive mass transit system, they too must be liberal. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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And Americans love public transportation. Just not the US example Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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Waiting for the domesday glacier to drop into the Atlantic, I will have a house on the new white horse beach.
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Obama, regardless of his skin color, obviously isnt worried about oceans rising. you tried to make that a racist remark? seriously? you cannot be taken seriously here. our construction czar flies around in a private jet, which tells me he isn’t concerned about the effect of a big carbon footprint on the environment. |
Jim never misses a red herring, environmental change can’t happen because (insert name) flies on airplanes.
The total of air traffics contribution is somewheres around 2% and that’s for all flights, passenger, cargo and military and eliminating it completely would still leave 98% Now Jim has no idea if any of the people he has heard Fox cite as hypocrites combined trips, chose not to take trips or used one of the numerous mechanisms to offset their carbon footprint by any amount. But that wouldn’t enhance his victimhood, would it? But we all know he’s Stable Genius II and really really, like smart. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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Why is it a red herring if I say this….let’s all be held to the same standard, let’s all be asked to make the same sacrifices. If Al Gore and Barack Obama and John Kerry have a carbon footprint that’s acceptable ( and since none of you can ever bring yourselves to criticize those guys, let’s assume it’s acceptable), why isn’t it acceptable if we all have the same carbon footprint? Wayne, FYI, now i’m being critical of two white guys and a black guy, is that racial makeup acceptable to you? Because we can throw Leonardo Decaprio and Steven Spielberg in the list if that makes the aggregate skin pigmentation ( which is always important to liberals) tolerable to you. |
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