protestors who set themselves on fire have commitment....

these are just clowns looking for attention....:kewl:

that is true.
However the person who started this thread is the only clown looking for Attention ... with his daily fox outrage

Yet it's you guys who are yelling they are terrorist! trying to destroy Art with a can of soup and some superglue Hard Logic to argue with:eyes:

of course you can't comprehend the meaning of the photo I posted with these Kids sitting on that counter.. in response to your statement

the wussification and dumbing-down of todays kids (even though both incidents happened in england and germany not in the States )


"Now you sound like your father and grandfather and mine .. who I bet laughed when these kids tried to change the world..."

or is this just more the wussification and dumbing-down of today's kids or were the people in the photos protesting with the flowers also terrorists and enemies of America or would you just repeat your statement

"these kids can't compete because they're stupid, lazy, entitled, snowflakes,":doh:

I did Jim

Aileen Getty has not personally worked in the oil industry and has poured much of her fortune into philanthropic ventures related to the climate crisis

its an actual foundation .. by the way not a fraguldent one that was Court-Ordered $2 Million For Illegally Using Foundation Funds for you know who


She co-founded the non-profit Climate Emergency Fund (CEF) in 2019 and has reportedly donated $1m of her personal wealth to be used to support environmental activist groups, including Just Stop Oil and Extinction Rebellion.

So with your logic she participated in the defacing of these art works


another little bit of information

Extinction Rebellion spokesperson Brad Homewood told the Guardian that they did it knowing it would not damage the artwork. "Our intention was always to glue on to the perspex protecting it," he said.

"Aileen Getty has not personally worked in the oil industry"

Which is why I said "heiress" and not "CEO".

She's an oil billionaire paying people to cause unrest to get off fossil fuels. In other words, she's an unprincipled dingbat.

she's an unprincipled dingbat.?

Why

Just because she’s an heir to an oil industry fortune doesn't mean you necessarily approve of the family business.

If that’s your reason. It doesn’t make a lot of sense ?
Seems she does a lot with her money .. besides a million dollars to one foundation


Getty is HIV positive since 1985 and works for AIDS awareness causes, along with former mother-in-law Elizabeth Taylor. In November 2016, she joined the board of amfAR, the Foundation for AIDS Research.

2013, Getty founded Aileen Getty Foundation, of which she is currently the President. Earlier in 2005, she also founded Gettlove, a nonprofit organization created to acknowledge, house, and sustain housing for numerous homeless individuals who are part of the Los Angeles community.


Maybe I should accuse anyone who donated money to Trump . Or the republicans party That they should be considered accomplice’s . In his attempts to steal a national election
While also calling them unprincipled dingbats .

The unprincipled being True
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Then you'd sound like Pete

My god man, if you take (and keep) billions from oil, then donate it to environmental nuts to protest oil, then that's the definition of having no principles.

If she doesn't approve of the family business, and she actually holds that s a principle, she should turn down the money. If she takes the money, she should shut up.

You don't know what a "principle" is. You actually don't know.

WHY ISN'T THAT WHATABOUT-ISM?

And stupid whatabout-ism, at that?

Keep running away from the Truth it’s like running away from your own shadow
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Classic Jim it’s her fault she was born into a family who made money on oil . And somehow she’s a hypocrite for using that money to fight climate change.

I know one thing . Jim you’re not a principled person. Your twisted logic make that obvious

You do know the business was sold in 1984?
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can’t we just agree that if you can engage in what about-ism, others can too?

classic wayne missed the point. or lied

Never even hinted it’s her fault what family she was born into.

but either oil is ok, of its evil. it cannot be both. If it’s ok, it’s fine for her to enjoy her money. if oil is diabolical, she shouldn’t want the proceeds of that diabolical industry.

can’t have it both ways. Lefties always want it both ways.

if i inherited a billion dolllars from dogfighting, and have $100 a year to PETA while living in mansions and flying in a private jet, that would make me an unprincipled dingbat.

classic wayne missed the point. or lied

Not really you re enforced what I said

it’s fine for her to enjoy her money. if oil is diabolical, she shouldn’t want the proceeds of that diabolical industry.


Jim if you inherited millions from dog fighting Bad example but it happened to be legal when the money was made

Who cares . You inherited it. It would not be your responsibility to feel guilty or make amends For wealth you had no part in creating
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does this apply to white privilege etc.....?

So white privilege is just about wealth? That’s news to me
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Just shut your pie hole and send them their reparation checks. You know slavery is some how retroactively your fault
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In 1988, President Reagan signed the Civil Liberties Act to compensate more than 100,000 people of Japanese descent who were incarcerated in internment camps during World War II. The legislation offered a formal apology and paid out $20,000 in compensation to each surviving victim.

Iam sure a petty person like yourself and Scott would have cried about Reagan issuing an official apology and reparations but called it compensation from the United States Or if RI got rid of VJ Day

would you be outraged if America issued an apology for slavery

Seems you’ve bought into the right wing fantasy that your personally being blamed .. by people who have no idea who you are ..

Some of the most cited reasoning for white Americans’ opposition to reparations includes the fact that no one directly involved in the practice is still living,

polling data collected by Hunt and Reichelmann shows that about 45% of those polled are opposed to the idea of apologizing to Black Americans
even a simple apology is rejected I am shocked
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Reagan gave the money to the same people
who suffered. If you can find anyone today who was a slave, they’ve got a good claim for reparations.

400,000 northern soldiers died to end slavery, that’s a hefty price paid . . shouldnt reparations be laid by the folks who advocated for slavery? namely, democrats?

if it weren’t for liberalism, blacks wouldn’t need reparations, they’d be doing fine.

Even though not a single person in my family tree ever owned a single slave, I am sorry slavery existed.

There, can we move on now.
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it's fun when he tells you what you would do or think based on what kind of person he thinks you are....

shhhhhhh....he thinks he's making a point

Two people literally burnt themselves alive in front of government buildings as an emblematic casualty of climate crisis, and it generated nothing compared against the simulated destruction of a thing of the past. Something incredibly to the point here that everyone should dwell with.
The out for the men who burned themselves is "they were crazy." The out for the painting protests is that "they look silly." The point is to not confront the depth of change required.
Because “#^&#^&#^&#^& the grandchildren, probably nothing will happen and we can’t afford it anyways.”
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pretty sure the painting mischief will generate nothing as well....

Pretty sure, The point is to not confront the depth of change required.
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You’re really are a ignorant clown aren’t you

that’s a hefty price paid . . shouldnt reparations be laid by the folks who advocated for slavery? namely, democrats?
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Next you'll be saying , the Republican nominee for governor of Michigan, claimed that Democrats want to “topple” the United States for losing the Civil War.

and She claimed people did not learn about major moments in Black history like the 1921 Tulsa race massacre because “Democrats don’t want you to know.”

who's running for Governor in Michigan Tudor Dixon

Republicans tried to claim their political ancestors at the Republican National Convention on Wednesday night, casting back to Abraham Lincoln, the first Republican President, to argue they deserve more credit from Black voters.

The problem is that the Republicans and the politics of 1860 bear almost zero resemblance to the Republicans of today.


Yep Jim you follow the facts

republicans believed in individual
freedom then. they believe in freedom now

the guy who said black plight isn’t his concern, doesn’t get to lecture anyone on ethics.

republicans believed in individual
freedom then. they believe in freedom now


Some do, but not Trumps And you’re GOP
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the gop today believes in lower taxes, school
choice, fewer federal regulations, all things that increase freedoms

Which states had the least severe covid lockdowns? which states opened up schools and businesses first?

You can’t win this debate. Liberals today want a massive federal government presence in our lives. republicans want less federal government intrusion.

you do live in a fantasy ...... Guess you never hear of the patriot act

i didn’t say the gop wants zero federal government. But they want a whole lot less than you do. That’s fact whether you like it or not. i never said the gop are anarchists.

Jim’s all set with the GOP’s core issues: race, immigration, and COVID fanaticism.
Never mind that the GOP controlled the House, Senate and the Presidency from 2016 to 18 and did nothing about immigration and now are telling the world that we have open borders.
Red states Covid deaths increased as they “opened” up and the rights claim that “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.“ is akin to claiming that if we legalize criminal activities we'll become a crime-free society?
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"race"

Where I live, I've had a front-row seat to see what 40 years of unchecked liberalism have done for blacks in New Haven, Bridgeport, and Hartford. It ain't pretty. The left's view is to control black numbers through abortion, and keep those who survive stuck in horrific modern day plantations we call cities. I think these people deserve a lot better. Democrats call for more of the same.

Yes, I'm all set with my views on race.

"immigration"

I want reasonable numbers of legal immigration, and a secure border. I'm sure that's a radical concept to you, but it's what most Americans believe.

So yes I'm all set there.

"COVID fanaticism"

Not sure what you mean, I'm reacting to empirical results, which are very clear that the lockdowns especially in schools, were a huge, catastrophic over reaction. Liberals are not to quick to be persuaded by measurable results, they're quite skilled at ignoring any and all facts which don't support their religion.

You got caught making up quotes from MTG, and I'm the fanatic. Makes sense...

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Never mind that the GOP controlled the House, Senate and the Presidency from 2016 to 18 and did nothing about immigration"

Agreed. Which is why I've said 100 times they get a big fat F on that issue. But apparently they did something, because crossings are way higher now. Why are crossings so much higher now?

"Red states Covid deaths increased as they “opened” up "

Not as high as NY's rates. More freedom and lower death rates, is what you call "winning" in any kind of honest assessment.

"“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.“ is akin to claiming that if we legalize criminal activities we'll become a crime-free society?"

Idiotic.

Not a good post from you, I guess the looming midterms are weighing heavily on you. Your earlier prediction that the left was poised to win the midterms because of abortion, is looking pretty stupid right now.

Sorry victim you’re wrong
I grew up in the fastest growing place in the USA, a town that went from a single K-12 school where I went to kindergarten to 8 elementary, two middle and two high schools in 12 years.
There was less than a handful of kids that weren’t white in my class and today that town is still far whiter than most of the surrounding towns.
Redlining, realtors and banks played racist games and still do.
You just keep thinking systemic racism doesn’t exist.

Red states COVID curves were exactly the opposite of places that reacted to Covid with public health measures.
In blue states people died because they didn’t yet know, red states they died because of ignorance and greed.
Floriduh and NY are prime examples, NY had early high rates, Floriduh had most of their deaths in the latter stages of Covid, when DeathSantis claimed it was nothing and vaccines didn’t work.
Don’t worry Jim, Roevember is coming.
You claimed your hero was invincible also….
Remember most of your ilk claims they won the last election and Putin is good.
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maybe you made all
that up.

what’s not made up is how much worse life is for blacks in new haven,,bridgeport, and hartford. not
enough dads. but let’s not talk about that.

“So here’s, I think, the most important thing with the data: if you are vaccinated—fully vaccinated—the chance of you getting seriously ill or dying from COVID is effectively zero,” DeSantis said. “If you look at the people who are being admitted to hospitals, over 95 percent of them are either not fully vaccinated or not vaccinated at all. These vaccines are saving lives. They are reducing mortality.”

https://www.wfla.com/community/healt...-mandates/amp/
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curious to hear the lefty response to that quote from Death-santis the science denier.

I'm just happy for wayne, he's apparently discovered colored font and size options...it's a whole new world of adventure....:hihi:

Well, (Doctor?) DeathSantis reversed course, allows state healthcare providers to order COVID vaccines for kids.
He also

FORT LAUDERDALE — In his first news conference since the omicron variant surged across Florida, Gov. Ron DeSantis badmouthed vaccines while pushing for unproven treatments against the mutated pathogen.

“With omicron, you know, the vaccinations are not preventing infection,” DeSantis said Monday at Broward Health Medical Center.

But since the beginning of nationwide vaccine rollouts, doctors and scientists have emphasized that although the virus can infect inoculated people, they offer the best protection against severe illness and death, even for those who catch the heavily mutated omicron variant. Those with booster shots are the most protected, authorities say.

Statistics from Miami-Dade County hospitals confirmed Monday that the overwhelming majority of COVID-19 patients are unvaccinated — 79% of them, the county reported.

Infections have exploded statewide. Florida reported 536,748 new infections in the two weeks ended Sunday, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. That’s more than during the first two weeks of August, when the delta variant surged across the state.
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