the targeting of kavanaugh, shooting of republicans at the congressional baseball game, and the countless ambushes of cops since democrats determined they could win elections by falsely portraying them
as racist assassins


you live in a fantasy and are in complete denial that your parties Rhetoric is part of their Daily message year after year..


then try to tie together incidents that happened years apart and think you are showing causation


the right has weak hand on the kavanaugh being targeted By Dems

now protesters are threats and of course 911 records show man accused in plot to kill Kavanaugh called police on himself

On wednesday “I want to tell you Gorsuch. I want to tell you Kavanaugh. You have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions,” Schumer said, turning to look at the Supreme Court building.

on thursday “I should not have used the words I used,” he said. “They didn’t come out the way I intended,” he explained, and added “my point was that there would be political consequences for President Trump and Senate Republicans if the Supreme Court, with the newly confirmed justices stripped away at a woman’s right to choose.”

“I shouldn’t have used the words I did, but in no way was I making a threat, I never, never would do such a thing.”
then he issued an apology


shooting of republicans at the congressional baseball game

On June 14, 2017, a mass shooting occurred during a practice session for the annual Congressional Baseball Game for Charity in Alexandria, Virginia, where six people were shot, including U.S. House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, U.S. Capitol police officer Crystal Griner, congressional aide Zack Barth, and lobbyist Matt Mika, by 66-year-old James Hodgkinson. A ten-minute shootout took place between Hodgkinson and officers from the Capitol and Alexandria Police before officers shot Hodgkinson, who died from his wounds later that day at the George Washington University Hospital.[7][8] Scalise and Mika were taken to nearby hospitals where they underwent surgery.[9]

Hodgkinson was a left-wing political activist[10][11] from Belleville, Illinois, The Virginia Attorney General concluded Hodgkinson's attack was "an act of terrorism... fueled by rage against Republican legislators".[12] Scalise was the first sitting member of Congress to have been shot since Arizona Representative Gabby Giffords was shot in 2011.[13]

In a 2021 report, the FBI classified the shooting as an act of domestic terrorism, and the perpetrator of the shooting as a "domestic violent extremist" with a "personalized violent ideology.

again Jim where the violent rhetoric from the Dems its not here



I am Guessing you forgo

tOn January 8, 2011, U.S. Representative Gabby Giffords and 18 others were shot during a constituent meeting held in a supermarket parking lot in Casas Adobes, Arizona, in the Tucson metropolitan area. Six people were killed, including federal District Court Chief Judge John Roll; Gabe Zimmerman, one of Giffords's staffers; and a 9-year-old girl, Christina-Taylor Green.[7][8][9][10][11] Giffords was holding the meeting, called "Congress on Your Corner", in the parking lot of a Safeway store when Jared Lee Loughner drew a pistol and shot her in the head before proceeding to fire on other people.[8][9]


Guess what we find right wing rhetoric
Following the shooting, American and international politicians expressed grief and condemnations. Gun control advocates pushed for increased restrictions on the sale of firearms and ammunition, specifically high-capacity magazines.[18] Some commentators criticized the use of harsh political rhetoric in the United States, with a number blaming the political right wing for the shooting. In particular, Sarah Palin was criticized for a poster by her political action committee that featured stylized crosshairs on an electoral map which included Giffords. Palin rejected claims that she bore any responsibility for the shooting.

Giffords on Palin's Crosshairs Map: "There Are Consequences to That Action" Gabrielle Giffords Warned of the Dangers of Palin's Crosshairs Map
Months before she was shot by a crazed gunman, Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords warned of the dangers of Sarah Palin's rhetoric.



And another of Jim and his Right wing media biggest lie

the countless ambushes of cops which I have show via data from actual police sites which clearly show it doesn't exist


and also in Jim myopic view of the world police accountability By anyone is violent rhetoric toward police .. who should never be questioned ..

"you live in a fantasy and are in complete denial that your parties Rhetoric is part of their Daily message year after year.."

I agree with that, I'm not in denial. We would do well to done it down. You are the one in denial, you'll deny your side also does it all day long, every single day.

Conservatives are a threat to democracy, we hate blacks, hate women, hate gays, hate latinos, blah blah blah. All day, every day, non stop.

"then try to tie together incidents that happened years apart and think you are showing causation "

Ambushes of cops (random ambushes) are not happening "years apart".

Antifa riots do not happen "years apart" from each other.

So whos in denial? The one who immediately concedes there's dangerous rhetoric on his own side? Or the one who denied there's dangerous rhetoric on his own side?

SO you point to the shooting of Giffords, and connect it to the attack on Pelosi. But those attacks were years apart. So as always, its wrong if I provide examples that are years apart, but totally fine when you do it.

How do you not see, that you are incapable of holding your side to any standards?

You have only one demand of the left - that they win. That's all that matters.

You might want to turn the TV off next week.

I’m going to go with Lead Paint
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referring to lead paint is always funny.

i have 4 brothers. The 3 oldest had one bedroom, me and the youngest had the other bedroom. the older 3 are liberal to the point of almost being communists. I tell them all the time that my parents used lead paint in their room. i find it hilarious, them not so much.

How do you not see, that you are incapable of holding your side to any standards?

Thad funny as if you hold your side to any standards

Here’s the latest version of Republicans standards

Trump lawyers saw Clarence Thomas as key to stop Biden electoral count, emails show

In an email from Chesebro to Eastman and several others sent on Dec. 31, 2020, Chesebro argued that Thomas would “end up being key” to asking the high court to overturn then-President-elect Joe Biden’s win in contested states, and that they should “frame things so that Thomas could be the one to issue some sort of stay or other circuit justice opinion saying Georgia is in legitimate doubt.”


Your other problem Jim you want people to apply your version of standards. Bitching isn’t holding people to a standard

Not voting for them is ..

And you are on the Record saying you’d vote for Trump again showing who’s house had the lead paint
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That funny coming from someone who stands for nothing but bitches about everything ..

You’re more like Trump than you lead on.
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Here are some standards for ya

White evangelical Protestants are the only major religious group in which a majority of adherents say they view Trump favorably (63%), roughly similar to the share in 2021 (67%),” the survey finds. Likewise, 54 percent believe in the “big lie” of a stolen election, compared with 28 percent of all Americans.

What the chances 99% are Republicans
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you’re speculating that a group that likes trump, is largely republican.

That’s brilliant. You really should be working at the FBI headquarters.

Actually I stand for plenty, and really don’t bitch about much here.

You’re just wrong…..again…..as usual.
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Reading the state court filing in the Pelosi case, Paul Pelosi's courage and presence of mind in dealing with an attacker right in front of him stands in stark contrast to how some cowards in Congress responded to their own supporters attacking the Capitol on January 6
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brandon's insane rambling tonight makes it pretty clear that the democraps are screwed next week :humpty:

“it’s gonna take a few days to determine the results of the elections. and if you don’t accept the results we communicate, you’re a threat to democracy.”

sounds fair.

Yawol, herr oberst…

brandon and his presidency are a complete disaster(and about to get worse)....apparently his only supporters are similarly mentally challenged, over-the-hill leftist loons :jester:

he sounds like a guys who knows he's about to spend the next two years getting impeached

you don't even have to cherry pick polls at this point..
5 very scary numbers for Democrats in the new CNN poll https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/02/polit...ons/index.html

....I hope they roll brandon out there every night till the elections....

My favorite part was “another “this is about the economy, stupid” election”

Pretty much says it all
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But Crist is leading Desantis! or should i say, Death-santis, ha ha ha. Desantis is so concerned, that he’s campaigning for Zeldin in NY!

I didn’t see Biden’s speech, but MAGA is pretty pissed about it. Must’ve been good then.
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Biden speeches are always a ray of sunshine
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if you don’t accept the results we communicate, you’re a threat to democracy.”

Wow Jim you speak that as if that’s not what you’re kind of republicans have. Been spewing Since Trump lost..

You are in the you know what
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Guess you missed the evangelical part

Your denial is breath taking
More gop standards

RNC votes to censure Reps. Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger over work with Jan. 6 panel

For putting country before party aka telling the truth

That’s some standards
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The case with the mid terms is not Republicans may flip the house

The historical pattern is clear, and ominous for Joe Biden and Democrats this year: The president’s party usually does poorly in midterm elections.V

yet Where’s the Red wave the rights been bragging about

Even with all the doom and gloom being spread by Republicans. It clearly tighter and that makes them uncomfortable..

And the usual suspects are trying to spin this midterms it to some water shed moment.. it’s fun to watch
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brandon and his presidency are a complete disaster

It’s funny you had no such feelings or objections with the last president?

What’s does that say about you?

And your standards
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Scott - have you been living in SF as there are parts of Depape who sound just like you.


SAN FRANCISCO — After an intruder broke into the San Francisco home of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and bludgeoned her husband with a hammer, leaving him unconscious for three minutes as he lay in a pool of blood, the attacker told the police that he had other targets: a local professor and several prominent state and federal politicians.
The new details of the attack, which police officers say was motivated by the assailant’s desire to take Ms. Pelosi hostage, interrogate her and break her kneecaps if she “lied,” emerged on Tuesday from prosecutors as the suspect appeared in court for the first time.
The suspect, David DePape, 42, pleaded not guilty to several state felony charges after investigators say he broke into the Pelosi residence last week in the well-to-do Pacific Heights neighborhood and demanded to see Ms. Pelosi, the country’s third most powerful politician, who was in Washington at the time.
The filing by local prosecutors on Tuesday provided chilling details, including how Mr. Pelosi, in a terrifying situation, was able to surreptitiously call 911 while he was in the bathroom and the intruder was in the house. It also offered insights into a disturbed man seemingly enthralled by the conspiracy theories that have portrayed Ms. Pelosi as an enemy of the country.
After breaking into the home by slamming his body through a glass door on the back porch, the intruder found Mr. Pelosi, 82, asleep in his bedroom just after 2 a.m., according to the filing. He demanded to see Ms. Pelosi, and when he was told she wouldn’t be back for days, the suspect said he would wait for her.
Mr. Pelosi, sitting on his bed, asked why.
“Well, she’s No. 2 in line for the presidency, right?” the intruder said, according to the police. Soon after, he told Mr. Pelosi that “we’ve got to take them all out.”
At another point, when Mr. Pelosi asked if he could call anyone for Mr. DePape, the suspect “ominously responded that it was the end of the road for Mr. Pelosi,” the authorities said.
The police said that without any questioning, Mr. DePape told them that he was on a suicide mission. The authorities said he believed he had been captured by home security cameras and recorded on the 911 call, but remained undeterred.
The “defendant’s intent could not have been clearer,” the prosecutors wrote as they asked the court to detain Mr. DePape without bail, saying that he forced his way into the Pelosi home intending to take her hostage and “to seriously harm her.”
The latest filing came a day after federal prosecutors filed a complaint against Mr. DePape that said that he directly targeted Ms. Pelosi and intended to make an example of her to other members of Congress.
“I’m sick of the insane #^&#^&#^&#^&ing level of lies coming out of Washington, D.C.,” he told officers at the scene, according to the local filing. “I came to have a little chat with his wife.”
During the 911 call that prompted a dispatcher to send officers, Mr. Pelosi left the phone on speaker and, trying to keep the assailant calm, was able to gently imply to the dispatcher that something was amiss.
At one point, to defuse the situation, prosecutors wrote, Mr. Pelosi told the dispatcher that he didn’t need the police. When the dispatcher told him to call back if he changed his mind, he said, “No, no, no, this gentleman just, uh, came into the house, uh, and he wants to wait for my wife to come home.”
In the days since the attack, those who know Mr. DePape have described a shy man who once seemed to live the lifestyle of a Bay Area hippie, making hemp jewelry and attending protests against a ban on public nudity, but who in recent years fell into homelessness, isolation and darkness, spending his time immersed in an online world of conspiracy theories and bigotry.
About six years ago, according to his most recent employer, Mr. DePape was down on his luck, living under a tree in a park and hanging around outside a lumber store in Berkeley, Calif., looking for work.
“You know how people sit outside and wait for someone to come and offer them work?” recalled Frank Ciccarelli, a carpenter who builds houses and makes furniture. “He was sitting there. So I picked him up. So he started working for me. And he really worked out well.”
For the next several years, Mr. Ciccarelli became close to Mr. DePape, even as he worked less and seemed to spend more time online, immersed in right-wing conspiracy theories — right up until a week ago, when he paid Mr. DePape his most recent wages.
At his court appearance on Tuesday, Mr. DePape, with long brown hair, wore a jail uniform of a long-sleeve orange shirt and orange pants, as well as a black face mask. He did not turn around to face the assembled news outlets, but his attorney spoke in his ear several times and he nodded. When the judge asked him if he was prepared to waive his right to a hearing within 10 days, Mr. DePape nodded slightly and said, “Yes.”
Mr. DePape was assigned a public defender, Adam Lipson, to represent him. In comments after Tuesday’s court appearance, Mr. Lipson said that Mr. DePape was recently moved to the county jail from a hospital, where he was treated for a dislocated shoulder he sustained during the arrest.
Mr. Lipson promised to mount a “vigorous defense” and signaled that one possible strategy could be to highlight his client’s “vulnerability” to the misinformation and conspiracy theories that have become so prominent in American political life.
Mr. Ciccarelli, 76, described Mr. DePape as a quiet person and diligent worker — an easygoing guy, at least until the topic of politics came up. He said he spent several hours a day with Mr. DePape, four or five days a week. “I think I know him better than anyone does.”
Over the six years he has known Mr. DePape, Mr. Ciccarelli said, he witnessed a transformation from a shy and hardworking, but troubled, man into someone who was increasingly isolated and captive to his darkest thoughts.
“If you got him talking about politics, it was all over,” Mr. Ciccarelli recalled in an interview this week. “Because he really believed in the whole MAGA, ‘Pizzagate,’ stolen election — you know, all of it, all the way down the line His responses all were very snarky and he ended up losing the few friends he had.”
The state charges against Mr. DePape came on Monday, along with several federal charges, including the attempted murder of Mr. Pelosi, who remains in intensive care at a local hospital after undergoing surgery on Friday, according to a person familiar with the situation. In a statement on Monday, Ms. Pelosi said her husband, “is making steady progress on what will be a long recovery process.”
Mr. DePape grew up in British Columbia in Canada and moved to California about two decades ago to pursue a relationship with a woman he had met in Hawaii. For a time, he house-sat for a woman in the East Bay area who ran an urban farm for low-income residents, and sometimes helped take care of the chickens.
From 2002 to 2009, Mr. DePape was registered to vote in San Francisco County and declared himself affiliated with the Green Party, according to county records that showed he voted once, in 2002. He attested to being eligible to vote.
After working together for a few years, Mr. Ciccarelli helped Mr. DePape get away from the streets, moving him into a friend’s garage studio in Richmond, Calif.
“Once he was housed, he had much more time to spend on his computer, Unfortunately he became a troll.” Mr. Ciccarelli said. “Because when you’re living under a tree, you don’t have a plug.”
On Saturday, the F.B.I. raided the garage in Richmond and seized two hammers, a sword and a pair of gloves.
As he spent more time on his computer in recent months, Mr. DePape appeared to have produced a voluminous record of his political leanings — ranting about the 2020 election being stolen, appearing to deny the gassing of Jews at Auschwitz and claiming that schoolteachers were grooming children to be transgender. Mr. DePape’s blog was registered at the Richmond address where he resided.
Mr. Ciccarelli, who said he was scheduled to work with Mr. DePape on Monday, said he never heard Mr. DePape make racist comments, but said he had become increasingly isolated the last few years and wanted to work less in the carpentry business.
“He was completely caught up in the fantasy, in the MAGA fantasy, ” he said.
Over the last few days, Mr. Ciccarelli has struggled to make sense of the news about his friend. “He did a monstrous thing, but he’s not a monster,” he said. “He’s really decent, gentle — it sounds crazy to say gentle — but he was a very gentle soul. But he was going downhill. He went down the rabbit hole.”

paul the most likely explanation all along was a political hit job. but he’s insane.

Here’s a question for you. I wouldn’t care what any other lefties would respond to this, but i’m curious to know your reaction.

If you want to blame the GOP for this, then using that logic, don’t we also blame democrats for the shooting of republicans at the congressional softball game, for the assassination plot against Kavanaugh? If wnot, what’s the difference?

I really think we need to dial the rhetoric down. But the inflammatory rhetoric is not used exclusively by the right. I’m not saying the right doesn’t use language i think is inflammatory, we do it all the time. But so does the left.

In Bidens speech last night, naturally he said it was evil
to question the integrity of our elections. But Hilary is in tv saying the gop is planning to steal the 2022 and even the 2024 elections. Why is it ok when she does it?

Let’s tone down the rhetoric, have standards that we apply equally to everyone, and spend more time talking about which policies work and which don’t work.

the leftist loons are gonna be pretty cranky...this should be fun :rotf2:

when someone attacks a politician verbally or physically, it's usually politically motivated...AOC was verbally attacked recently by her own supporters because they believe she's sold them out....maybe this illegal hippie blm supporting rainbow flag waving child transitioning drug doing nut felt like nancy sold him out....or maybe he just wanted stock tips?

they are world class stock pickers!

NM

Ok snarky troll. You sound like DePage.

If (prob) the Rs take back the house and possibly the Sen. it will be interesting to see the comments here compared to 2 years ago when the Ds won all three seats.

?huh?

Read what his former employer said about him.

"The difference is that in the past when someone on either side got attacked/shot/etc it was over policy issues(taxes, the border, etc)."

So it's less outrageous that the guy who planned to kill Kavanaugh, can say it was because of abortion? The fact that he can connect it to a policy decision that actually happened, makes it less vile than attacking Mr Pelosi because of the the lie that the election was stolen?

And what policy issue was the motive behind the shooting of 6 republicans at the congressional softball game?

God almighty man...you're saying it's less horrible to attack a politician over an actual policy position, than to attack a politician over a made up policy position? So it's more tolerable to kill republicans if you oppose the Trump tax cuts, than it is to kill a democrat because you think they're soft on crime?

Whew.

If you really believed what you just said, why aren't you condemning Hilary for already saying the GOP will steal the 2022 and 2024 elections?

Have fun answering that one.

I showed his actions are directly tied to lies by Trump, his admin. and many Rs, not policy decisions. The guys who shot giffords and scalise did it bc of their policies - not because they were brainwashed by Trump or Hillary.

Paul, you said the difference was that previous shootings were based on policy, and this one was based on the lie of election fraud.

So if we somehow found out that the 2020 election was stolen, you'd have a better opinion of the guy who attacked Pelosi?

"Ok douchebag"

But I'm angry.

NM

Trying to follow you...

You blame Trump for the Pelosi attack, because Trump invented the lie that the attacker was motivated by. Even though Trump never told anyone to attack Pelosi due to election fraud.

But you won't say anything about Schumer and Kavanaugh, even though Schumer explicitly threatened Kavanaugh. You give Schumer a pass because Kavanaugh actually did vote to overturn Roe?

That is right.

“And we fight. We fight like hell And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”
“All of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen by emboldened radical-left Democrats, which is what they’re doing … We will never give up, we will never concede. It doesn’t happen. You don’t concede when there’s theft involved.”
“Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore and that’s what this is all about … We will stop the steal.”
“Because you’ll never take back our country with weakness, you have to show strength and you have to be strong.”


So do you have a link to Hillary's statement?

compared to 2 years ago when the Ds won all three seats. [/QUOTE]




?huh?

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"Ok douchebag"

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Mr. Civility is never going to be a moderator.....

is this hillary or al gore?

?huh?[/QUOTE]

Read what his former employer said about him and how he felt sorry for Depage - Depage sounds like you.