All things are equal in right wing politics

George Santos pretended to be a gay Afro-Latino Ukrainian Brazilian Catholic Jew whose mother died on 9/11, whose ancestors survived the Holocaust, whose employees died in the Pulse club mass shooting, and whose net worth rose by millions overnight.

Am I missing anything?
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you’re saying lies are ok if voters knew about them before the election. But how do YOU know what voters actually know, and what they don’t know? Since most of the media ignores anything wrong done by democrats, how are we to know what voters are actually aware of? Of course, somehow, you are aware that they all knew. You miraculously have insight into what voters knew when they voted.

And, since you’re saying lies don’t matter if voters knew about them beforehand, then you’re not saying this guy should get kicked out, right? you’re saying there should be another election so that voters, now aware of his lies, can decide if those lies matter?

“everything is ok when democrats do it.”

liberal hypocrisy, always something to behold.

Jim trapped in his bubble restricting his view of the true political landscape is always something to behold. The republicans, the democrats and the media should have all been looking at this con man long before the election. It's now looking like election laws were probably violated and if and when he gets taken down by the courts the ruling republican party will have egg on their faces for the silence.

No Jim he should get the boot or agree to have a special election

And let the voters vote on the actual candidate. I doubt many Republicans care they did vote in a no Christian multiple divorce adulterer p u s s y grabbing tax evading lier all read. So he has a chance



Seems you just can’t accept that all lies are not created equal

And you sound like a child with your canned response it’s ok when democrats do it.

So in Jim’s world

Biden claimed gas prices were lower than they were

Or Hillary said sniper shot at her plane

And Santos saying vote for me the candidate that I 100% made up.



Are the same ! just shoes how much of intellectual dishonest person. You can be

If you can’t see the differences


And Jim even with Trump’s false or misleading claims total 30,573 over 4 years. You’ll still vote for him
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Since most of the media ignores anything wrong done by democrats

Get out of the cult Jim
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I am Catholic," he told the Post. "Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was 'Jew-ish.'"

You can’t make this up.


Nassau County District Attorney Anne T. Donnelly, a Republican, said the fabrications and inconsistencies were "nothing short of stunning."

"The residents of Nassau County and other parts of the third district must have an honest and accountable representative in Congress," she gets it


As a candidate in 2020, in a filing to the U.S. House clerk, George Santos disclosed no assets or income — just that he’d been compensated in excess of $5,000 by LinkBridge Investors.

Two years later, in a filing ahead of a race he’d go on to win, Santos disclosed an apartment in Rio de Janeiro, checking and savings accounts and dividends from his eponymous Devolder Organization of between $1 million and $5 million.

That, in addition to a salary of three-quarters of a million dollars.
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If allegations are true (and Santos has not even denied them), there are at least two possible federal crimes at play:

1) conspiracy to defraud the US (same as Mueller with Russians in 16 and Trump in 20), and:

2) filing false statements to FEC.

Time to add a third potential federal crime: campaign finance fraud.

In 2021, Santos incorporated the Devolder Org in FL, which has no known assets.

In 2022, he reports income of $750k, all from Devolder. He then gives $700k to his campaign.

Where did that money come from?
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I don't believe a business can loan a campaign money.

What will be a bridge too far that will cause the Rs to disown Santos? I think the only thing would be a video of him saying he believes Trump lost.

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So youse agree cake bakers must not be forced to bake queers cakes.


Simpatico, sweet sweet simpatico.

This is where Trump has taken much of the R party:

When Rep.-Elect George Santos admitted that he “embellished” his “résumé” during his 2022 campaign, the New Yorker’s critics were quick to respond that his fabrications went way beyond embellishment. Santos (whose district includes parts of Queens and Long Island) claimed that his grandparents were Ukrainian Jews and Holocaust survivors, that he had an abundance of real estate assets, and that his mother was killed on 9/11 — none of which was true.

Regardless, some Republicans have been rushing to Santos’ defense, including Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia. And Senate Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy has been in no hurry to throw Santos under the bus, as he knows he will need Santos’ vote if he is going to be chosen as House speaker in 2023.

In a scathing column published by The Bulwark on December 28, Never Trump conservative Charlie Sykes emphasizes that the Santos scandal is not only an indictment of the congressman-elect, but underscores the GOP’s overall dysfunction.

“Embellished? I do not think that word means what the Talented Mr. Santos thinks it means,” Sykes explains. “To ‘embellish’ is to adorn, decorate, enhance, gild, beautify, and festoon — and on occasion, it means to ‘exaggerate.’ This Santos did not do. He just made s**t up out of whole cloth. He did not place doodads on his résumé: He lied about his schooling, his degrees, his background, his criminal history, his employment, and about the non-existent properties he claimed to own.”

The conservative columnist continues, “He lied that his employees were killed in the Pulse nightclub shooting. He lied about his Jew-ishness and about his grandparents escaping the Holocaust. He used fake quotes from Winston Churchill. He lied about his money, probably lied on financial disclosure forms — which is actually a crime — and lied about his lying. And then, having constructed this Babel of Fabulism, he turned to the playbook of disingenuous non-apologies.”

Sykes laments that because Santos is a Republican, he is getting a pass from other members of his party.

“Of course, a political party with any sort of intact immune system would move quickly to send this sociopath back to ScamLand, whence he came,” Sykes argues. “But this is the GOP circa 2022, and so, it faces a painful dilemma. With a narrow majority in the House, Republicans — and especially Kevin McCarthy — need his vote, of course. But that’s not the real problem here, is it?”

Sykes continues, “After years of ignoring, enabling and rationalizing Big Lies and small ones, it will now be exceedingly difficult for the GOP to find their misplaced conscience that might morph into outrage and something like a moral standard. As Nick Catoggio writes, ‘Anyone willing to set aside their qualms about Trump for the sake of holding executive power logically should be willing to set aside their qualms about Santos for the sake of holding legislative power.’ So, not surprisingly, GOP leaders are either silent, or in a forgiving mood.”

Greene, Sykes observes, is “all in” for Santos. After former Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (an ex-Democrat turned independent) asked Santos some tough questions when filling in for Tucker Carlson on Fox News, Greene attacked her for showing “zero grace.” The far-right Georgia congresswoman tweeted, “I think we Republicans should give George Santos a chance and see how he legislates and votes, not treat him the same as the left is.”

Sykes laments, “The responsibility for this entire goat-rope lies with Santos and the GOP, but it’s worth noting that all of this should have been exposed before the election by the local media and Dem oppo research. Balls were dropped.”

Oh Great, just what we needed, a “Hold My Beer” moment :rolleyes:
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I read your old posts .. already know you are a loser . But please keep the bigoted remarks coming. showing us your lack of character lol
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Rep.-elect George Santos, R-N.Y., said his mother died in the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks, but later said she died in December 2016.

Conservatives love that kind of stuff
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why does santos deserve more than the punishment you’d give to democrats who lied/embellished, like our esteemed senator blumenthal, Biden, Princess Liz Warren, etc? Hilary lying about coming under sniper fire, that wasn’t a problem for democrats…

look, i’d say kick the guy out and have another election. but your side would never, ever agree that they need to be held to the same standard

Is there a specific reason why republican lies are more problematic than democrat lies?

just explain why it’s ok when democrats lie to get elected, but a worse offense when a republican does it

accusing me of being in a cult, isn’t explaining the hypocrisy.

i never said every lie is equal. but the political party of the person telling the lie, shouldn’t be the factor that determines if the liar is punished or not. And that’s the i it factor you care about.

Blumenthal lied for years about serving in Vietnam. Biden got caught plagiarizing and telling god knows how many whoppers. Liz warren. Hilary Clinton.

Not one of those bothers you one bit.

Partisan politics is always the deciding factor for you. always

just have a rule that gets allied evenly to both sides. That sounds reasonable to me, but scares the living sh*t out of you.

Well you use the same old few D lies and embelishments over and over and over again. The level of those same lies you use to try to tarnish Ds are not even close to the level and # of Trump or Santos. Trump/Santos have told dozens (Trump thousands) while the D lies you use are so few that you have to repeatedly use them. In addition, Trump, Biden, Warren and Blumenthal have all apologized. Trump prob. did but I must have missed it.

why is the list of lies i cite not valid paul? because i’ve cited them more than once?

so using that logic, if you and wayne cite santos’ lies the same number of times, those lies no longer matter?

Blumenthals lie is far worse worse than anything santos said, which is exactly why today that lie is a crime. unless a democrat tells it, apparently. Gimme a break.

Trump is in a category all by himself. We’re taking about santos.

the reason why i bring those lies up, is because you guys get all twisted in knots in a pathetic, humorous attempt to explain why those lies are so much more benign.

“everything is ok when democrats do it.”

so “a few lies”, at least when told by democrats, is acceptable.

What’s the maximum number of lies that are allowed, before we should start caring? do democrats get a larger number?

Big article in the NY Times today about politicians lying. Both D and R mentioned.

I bet you will continue to repeat that same line hundreds of times though.

Show me a D how "gets a larger number?"

Keep trying to comparing hundreds/thousands of lies with 1 or an embellishment and that is why we (I) can't take you seriously.

Biden.

Santos has told hundreds or thousands of lies? how many fin hem are crimes, as blumenthals lie is?

paul this is just like the kids in cages at the border. it was totally ok when obama did it, but a crime against humanity when trump did the same exact thing, because according to you guys, trump did it more often. i asked 50 times how many times it’s ok to lock kids in cages before it’s evil, none of you even tried to answer.

And here it is again Jim’s logic

if they are not crimes what’s the problem

Jim give up . You defend this clown right off the bat. But know since you committed yourself to his cause

You decide to do what you always do try to make some false equivalences. And in double down because you can’t win the argument.

And the only argument I made was if his lies were proven truth would Republicans make him resign?

And it’s looking like they won’t hopefully they’ll come to their senses
But now they are proving that they are not the party of integrity, honesty, truthfulness they’re only interested in keeping his seat at any cost.
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defend him? i said to kick him out.

you really, really are stupid.

Santos has told dozens (on the way to hundreds) of lies. Trump thousands.

The D lies or embellishments you post are not crimes and that is why both Santos and Trump are being investigated by federal and local authorities.

Blumenthal was a reservist and said he served in vietnam - which he didn't. How is Blumenthal's a crime?

Wayne, since Blumenthal's lie is actually against the law, then on what basis could you conclude that Santos' lies are worse? Other than the fact that Santos is a republican, that is...

"false equivalences"

Wayne, no two events are exactly alike in every single detail. That doesn't mean they aren't somewhat comparable. Every single time yoru hypocrisy is shown, you cry about "false equivalence", yet you never, ever specify why the equivalence is false. Never. I'm giving you a chance to do that here. Why is Blumenthal's lie not worse that Santos'?

They passed a law to criminalize what Blumenthal did. SO again, please tell us why his lie is more benign than Santos'?

I'll wait.

So I'll ask again, what did Blumenthal do that is a crime? I'll wait.

If you do something before the law is passed to make it a crime you didn’t commit a crime.
The law in this country is not retroactive.
Jim’s thinking of his dream, a totalitarian country run by an authoritarian who will make everyone he doesn’t like behave correctly and control the branches of government to make it happen.
Like his hero
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stolen valor is a crime. he lied for years about serving in vietnam.

i’m still waiting. paul, how many pies is ok? and how many is too many?

I’m still waiting. I answered your question.

You either don't know what you are talking about or you are intentionally lying. Blumenthal said he served in vietnam in 2003 and there was no law against saying that. He said he misspoke and other times said he did not serve. The law says he has to receive a benefit and he did not.

sorry, i assumed you could read, my bad. I said here in this thread, , that “today”, his lie is a crime. It wasn’t then, but is is today. true or false?

any special reason why you’re too cowardly to defend your statement that it’s about the number of lies? what’s the magic number paul? how many lies are ok?

the answer is, “how ever many the democrat tells, that number is ok. however many the republican tells. is too many”.

Right?

biden was caught plagiarizing and had told plenty of whoppers to puff himself up. And I don’t really care as many of them do it. but all of a sudden you guys are saying that lying disqualifies yiu from federal government. at least when republicans do it, that is.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying. and he’s an enormously popular hero to the left.

Must be convenient to cloak yourself in such hypocrisy.

So you just got caught lying again! It seems to be a common theme with you. I'll bump up that other thread to show what a scummy liar you are.

what lie didn’t tell paul? i said that what blumenthal did then, is a crime today.

you said it’s about the number of lies, but you flatly refuse to go into any detail about how that makes any sense at all.

i’m answering your questions, you’re dodging mine, because even you know you can’t respond without looking foolish.

go ahead an insult me again instead of answering.

I did answer earlier. I assumed you could read, my bad.

YOU guys said the severity of the lies matter. Therefore it’s worth pointing out that blumenthals lie is so bad, it’s now a crime. i asked you guys many times, on what basis you’d conclude santos lies are worse?

so how many lies are allowed?

paul, i never claimed to be smart. so please point me to your post where you specified how many lies are allowed, and how you arrived at that number.

still waiting.

Is your reading comprehension that bad?

How did he benefit since that is an important part of the law? What money or tangible benefit did he receive?