It seems impossible that we'll avoid a government shutdown. Many in Trump's inner circle desperately want one.
Perfect opportunity for Trump to disband Congress.

First, engineer a shutdown (there’s actually nothing to engineer- just have Rs on the Hill say they’re having trouble negotiating a spending bill. Let the funding expire without any agreement. Blame Ds for not being reasonable.)
Then, tell everyone that Congress cannot meet the demands of the moment, but as President, he will make sure that spending continues even without any law to direct that spending. “I will make those spending decisions on behalf of the American people. That’s what they elected me to do.”
As a bonus, he could use the never-used constitutional provision that allows the president to adjourn Congress. He could declare the 119th Congress adjourned sine die. Hill Rs would probably agree that they’ve been sent home and have no authority to meet or conduct business.
The corporate media response would likely focus on substance versus process. Sure, Trump is now ruling unconstitutionally by dictatorial fiat alone, but the alternative was a debilitating shutdown caused by those feckless idiots in Congress. Isn’t it good that Trump saved the economy from those cretins?
I think the legal uncertainty of the outlays would cause market related chaos. I also think they are not competent enough to pull this off cleanly enough to work and that the media has a preexisting framework around shutdowns and the debt ceiling that more (but not all) of them would wake up.
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Bunk beds?....no problem..
But I'm a little busy with a couple of million dollar homes right now. You don't sound to busy...and I see you’re just an amateur but something you could tackle. 😉

Million bucks buys you a spec home these days. Hell, are they even using clear trim? (When I say clear I mean with no knots)

I’ve heard for far less you can pre-buy into a new timeshare development on the Med. Neighborhood is poised for rapid gentrification but you need to get in early.

Some more from Garrett Graff

https://www.doomsdayscenario.co/p/to...t-donald-trump
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Killing off USAID... there goes a huge amount of our global influence, particularly in Africa, which will open the door to China there even further. So much for the compassionate conservatism of GWB....

Bill Gates is a big proponent of global aid, he notes its less than 1% of our budget, yet has done so much in so many ways. One crazy decision after the next, all leading to eroding our influence and standing on the world stage. He wants to be like his buddy Putin and he is taking the steps necessary to accomplish it. Time to turn this around is short i fear and I’m not even sure if the courts can help, especially when potus doesn’t respect the rule of law.

[QUOTE=spence;1247780]Million bucks buys you a spec home these days. Hell, are they even using clear trim? (When I say clear I mean with no knots)

Id be happy to answer your doityourselfer questions in the right forum/thread....this one is for the TDS support group. Check on each other often through these tough times ahead.

Maybe try more impeacments, indictments, convictions, assassinations, or since none of that garbage worked.....
take it to the streets. :rotflmao:

In George Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty-Four, the ultimate act of rebellion comes when Winston Smith insists that two plus two equals four, defying a system that demands he accept whatever reality the Party declares. The Party doesn’t just want him to say two plus two equals five—they want him to believe it. This demand that citizens deny obvious truth isn’t just about controlling specific facts; it’s about breaking their capacity to think clearly about reality itself.
https://www.techdirt.com/2025/02/04/...o-equals-four/
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The night of the long knives… look that one up
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Yeah, let’s let viruses ferment in Western Africa so we can use all that money we saved to treat dying Americans at home when the chickens come home to roost.

Not to mention the void that famine creates empowering ISIS and Boko Haram. Anyone remember “fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them at home?”

Probably the best ROI of any taxpayer outlay are those brown burlap bags with a big USAid printed all over.

For Trump and his cult to understand that, they would have to be clear headed rational analytical thinkers, that ship has sailed a long time back.

Trump will not send U.S. funds to Gaza, hasn’t committed to sending troops

White House spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt offered clarifying details a day after President Donald Trump vowed to take over the territory and rebuild it.


So its the same as last time Trump runs his Mouth. and then his people tell us thats not what he meant. :kewl:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...cement-israel/

100%. The vacuum will be immense. (A close second in value is the support of Ukraine decimating the military resources of one of our biggest adversaries)

At least there is hope that Trump will continue military aid for access to natural resources, but I wouldn't hold my breath. He is after all a big fan of his little idol Putin.

It’s not a terrible idea but it also ties Trump to victory or he’ll never see any of the spoils and, well, it’s past inauguration so isn’t the war already over???

Same goes for shipping deportees to Gitmo, will take decades to shut it back down.

If you sit back and look at the big picture, almost everything the Felon and FElon have done it’s easy to see why Zi Jinping is grinning.
Alienating our allies with tariffs and threats
Removing all our foreign aid which did two things, made us look good by providing them things(bought from American suppliers) and provided us with CIA cover closely embedded.
Cuts the CIA, we now have a large number of people who know how our intelligence agencies work, pissed and without employment. All they need to do is turn one to do substantial damage.
Sends the White House a list of all the CIA hires in the past two years in an unclassified email, thru the system that FElon and his munchkins have been hacking and hooking unknowns into.
Then cut the FBI counterterrorism units, cut protection for people with very significant information….,
We are currently in the scariest place in almost 25 years and the Stable Genius spent yesterday afternoon kicking the hornets nest in the Middle East
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Marsh i hope you didn’t buy large amount of Trumps meme coin, i would hate to know your among those he has scammed to put hundreds of millions in his pocket at the expense of his faithful albeit easily fooled followers.

https://youtu.be/3jMq5XzVBng?si=2524hqG8p-K8LZvY
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Keep crying. and making stupid ass umptions..nothing left for you. Happy to have helped set up this support group. Look to your comrades for sympathy...im laughing at you fools.

They call that voting......as in an election. An election he won. Are you unaware of this or just havent come to terms with the facts?


Are you suggesting that the American people didnt prefer him over the prosecutor.:jester:


Cry on.

You dont know me well at all......i have the will and the means to succeed ...anywhere anytime....and yes Im that confident.
I have gone it alone, refuted pessimism and understand that the American dream doesn't come easy.
If I had to start over it would be even easier. God blessed me with good health, and great parents. The land of opportunity is still alive and well and the last election has been a godsend to those who struggle and strive for success.

Oh that post is so full of hypocrisy, you mean like Trump and the MAGA nuts accepting the will of the people, oh wait you probably believe Biden didn’t win.

More ass umptions. Who is the president now? c'mon...you can say it. Hypocrite...cry some more

Ive come to the obvious conclusion that even when you rub your two remaining brain cells together you still got nothing.

The President swears an oath to uphold the US Constitution, what’s in office today is hellbent on destroying it.

If you wanted to live in Russia would could have just moved.

The Felon won, he received 49.9% of the popular vote and won the electoral college. Hardly a mandate.

He then took the oath consisting of these words

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

That entitled him to the Article 2 powers listed in the Constitution that he swore to preserve, protect and defend.

Among the flurry of legally dubious executive orders Trump signed is an EO to end birthright citizenship, a direct violation of the Constitution, which cannot be changed by executive order.
He also attempted to create a new Department (DOGE) 𝔻𝕖𝕝𝕦𝕤𝕚𝕠𝕟𝕒𝕝- 𝕆𝕡𝕡𝕣𝕖𝕤𝕤𝕠𝕣𝕤- 𝔾𝕖𝕟𝕖𝕣𝕒𝕥𝕚𝕟𝕘- 𝔼𝕩𝕔𝕝𝕦𝕤𝕚𝕧𝕚𝕥𝕪 or something like that.
In order to be a department it would need to be established by Congress, as part of their Article 1 power.
Musk and his team of incels have been running amok in the federal computer systems. Nobody is quite sure what they are doing but they claim to be eliminating Congressionally authorized departments, which is an Article 1 power. They also seem to be expropriating all data from the Federal Government, this information is worth Billions if not Trillions and they’re likely stealing it.

The Felon is also imposing tariffs, another Article 1 power, by claiming there is an emergency. His emergency keeps changing from fentanyl to deficit to I want to annex a sovereign nation.
There are far more instances of violations of the Constitution than I care to list here, feel free to use your Google.

Trump has no interest in upholding the law or protecting and preserving the Constitution. According to him, the law is whatever he says it is. So, are we a nation of laws? Do we care about the Constitution? Or are you good with terminating it?
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This is an elaboration on the YouTube video I posted yesterday

MEMORANDUM
Date: February 5, 2025
Subject: Capture of U.S. Critical Infrastructure by Neoreactionaries
Executive Summary
Following President Trump’s Executive Order establishing the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), many
have been shocked by the speed and scope of changes led by Elon Musk. While DOGE in theory aligns with
longstanding conservative ambitions, the reality is that Musk has not limited government or dismantled the deep
state; he has replaced it with himself. Under his radical restructuring of federal power, the White House is at risk of
becoming captive to Musk’s demands. This memo outlines four alarming developments that transcend
partisanship.
I. II. III. IV. Musk-aligned operatives have seized control of the Office of Personnel Management (OPM),
purging career civil servants and installing loyalists with ties to Musk’s private ventures.
DOGE has deployed unvetted hires—many under 25 years old—who now wield de facto
control over sensitive government functions without security clearances. These individuals,
drawn from Musk’s orbit and Silicon Valley’s neo-reactionary (NRx) network, operate without legal
oversight or accountability.
DOGE has gained read-write access over Treasury pipes and federal payment systems,
granting Musk direct influence over the financial infrastructure of the U.S. government. This
unprecedented control over money flows creates a national security risk and a personal power
lever for Musk.
The congressionally mandated divestment of TikTok has been delayed, with reported
Chinese interest in Musk as a buyer. If successful, Musk would control not just X (formerly
Twitter) but also the largest platform shaping youth political discourse—further concentrating his
influence over public opinion.
Rather than operating as an ally of the Trump administration, Musk has hijacked its ambitions for his own purposes.
His rapid takeover of federal infrastructure mirrors the broader ambitions of the neoreactionary (NRx) movement—a
small group of Silicon Valley elites who reject democracy and seek to install a "CEO Monarch" to rule by
technological and financial dominance. This network includes Peter Thiel, Marc Andreessen, Balaji Srinivasan, David
Sacks, and Curtis Yarvin, among others. Once considered fringe, purveyors of this ideology have now been
embedded into the core of government operations.
Musk’s maneuvering demonstrates a long-standing strategy of this elite class: not dismantling government, but
replacing its power structures with ones they control. DOGE has not reduced bureaucracy—it has privatized it.
Treasury has not been made more efficient—it has been placed under a billionaire’s influence. TikTok has not been
secured from foreign threats—it has been delayed so Musk can position himself as its gatekeeper. President Trump,
far from asserting dominance over the administrative state, may now find himself hostage to Musk.
Congress Must Act to Prevent Private Takeover of Government. This memo calls for immediate congressional
action to reassert democratic control and prevent Musk’s further entrenchment into government infrastructure
including launching urgent investigations into DOGE’s hiring practices, Treasury access, and OPM purges;
strengthening security and conflicts-of-interest laws; enforcing divestment measures; barring Musk from
acquiring TikTok; and limiting Musk’s influence over national security and diplomatic affairs.
The scale, speed, and opacity of Musk’s actions demand urgent scrutiny—not just as a policy concern, but as a
direct challenge to the constitutional order and the President’s independence. If left unchecked, Musk’s
consolidation of power will shift control over critical U.S. infrastructure away from accountable governance and into
the hands of a single private actor, setting a dangerous precedent for the future of American democracy. Congress must act now to prevent a hostile private takeover of public power.
https://america2.news/content/files/...ary-5-2025.pdf
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God, the connection of outside hardware to secure government systems, shadow teams likely still on their parent’s insurance with hidden identities, CIA employee names being sent via regular email…and now it looks like Musk may be uploading the confidential information of millions of Americans to the Cloud to run AI???

John’s head must be ready to pop. This is so insanely bad.

It really seems like Musk sold a trump a fantasy of eliminating a million government jobs with AI. This will either fall apart or go very, very, very badly.

We’re at the very, very, very bad spot.
The Trump Musk administration is currently under a court order to not do several things that violate the law, if they violate the court order in normal times, the judge asks a US Marshal to go pick them up.
That Marshall works for Trump.
I don’t see a good outcome, even if the Republicans in Congress wake up, they and the Supreme Court have given the Felon absolute power.
This won’t take a long time to play out
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So what. Nothing you or the rest of you TDS suckers can do about it. Is there?
Cry some more...that's about it.
I've heard some dems are suggesting taking the fight to the streets.:rotf3:
He's going to proclaim that he is supreme leader soon :conf:..... according to an anonymous source..... so you had better get the hell going.

You seem to be very happy that the grand experiment is ending after…almost 250 years.
Trump has no interest in upholding the law or protecting and preserving the Constitution. According to him and your ilk, the law is whatever he says it is. So, are we a nation of laws? Do we care about the Constitution? Or are you good with terminating it?
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All but one discussing policy changes, non vetted individuals accessing sensitive information with national security implications, global aid assistance to avoid another pandemic, a decades old mild east hot spot and this one individual just rants about the liberal left. Paints a pretty sad picture of this guy, we discuss policy, policy, policy and he answers hate, hate, hate. A Trump mini me, vengeance, hate and name calling, adults by age but more child like in demeanor.

Small majorities in many regions prefer facts over bizarre conspiracy, democracy over authoritarianism and American pluralism over racism and xenophobia. In other Western democracies, far-right extremists win seats in national assemblies, where coalitions can constrain their ideas. But in a two-party system, the capture of one party by extremists is enough to cause great political havoc and violence - a lesson we should have learned from the destruction of our Union in 1861.
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Always said that was a oxymoron.

From JD Vance. Our vice president. Reguarding the firing of a Doge member for racist posts. Such as I was a racist before it was cool. And something to the effect they should kill all the Jews and the Palestinians.

Here’s my view: JD Vance tweet.

I obviously disagree with some of Elez’s posts, but I don’t think stupid social media activity should ruin a kid’s life.

We shouldn’t reward journalists who try to destroy people. Ever.

So I say bring him back.

If he’s a bad dude or a terrible member of the team, fire him for that.

So DEI for racists white guys is ok. got it. .. and blame the journalist for trying tying to ruin his life. .. rmarsh. Keep convincing yourself they don’t and are not acting like. Nazis….

Musk’s DOGE Teen Was Fired By Cybersecurity Firm for Leaking Company Secrets

Edward Coristine posted online that he had retained access to the firm’s servers. Now he has access to sensitive government information.
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Trump DEI crackdown targets books in Pentagon schools
As the DEI purge widens, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth ordered restrictions on what books DOD schools can teach, according to a memo obtained by The Washington Post.

And Pete was handed this Memo. direction from who? We know it’s not trumps idea.


DEI is to Republicans as Jews were to the Nazi Party. Scapegoats

No conflicts with FElon

Exclusive: President Trump's nominee as Air Force Secretary, currently a top official at the national spy satellite agency, arranged a multibillion-dollar contract solicitation in a way that favored Elon Musk's SpaceX, according to seven people familiar with the contract reut.rs/4b7MUKt
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^^^^^^These low IQ references to nazis, hitler, ss, etc. are what the American people rejected, and helped Trump win. Good job.
I understand it can be difficult for those whose intelligence abruptly stopped growing at age 15.
This support group was set up for just that purpose.