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Pete F. 02-05-2022 10:33 AM

Mike Pence was surrounded by a conspiracy to end democracy in America. He didn’t call the FBI. He didn’t alert the public. He waited to see if it would succeed. When it was clear it would fail, at the last minute he threw in with the winning side.

Pence’s staff testified to the J6 committee.
From the questions they were asked, Pence could surmise the extent of their knowledge of what crimes were committed byTrump and his inner circle.
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detbuch 02-05-2022 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222040)
RNC passed censure resolution of Cheney and Kinzinger without any discussion. Overwhelming voice vote of yes, with a few nos.
The resolution wasn't read or presented. The whole affair took about a minute.
No discussion, no debate, no recorded vote. It's not a political party. It's a herd of sheep.
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You're surmising, conjecturing, opining, that there had not been any discussion about the censure previously, that none of them knew what it was about, and they all just decided on the spur of the moment to OK let's censure these guys for the heck of it because Ronna McDaniel says to do it.

I heard the voice vote. It was overwhelmingly yes. There was an underwhelming barely audible teeny no. It was political democracy as usual. That's how democracy works. That's why we were founded as a Republic, not as a democracy.

scottw 02-05-2022 10:58 AM

pete is the king of drama queens....

Pete F. 02-05-2022 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1222086)
pete is the king of drama queens....

Poor Sheep
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Pete F. 02-05-2022 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1222084)
You're surmising, conjecturing, opining, that there had not been any discussion about the censure previously, that none of them knew what it was about, and they all just decided on the spur of the moment to OK let's censure these guys for the heck of it because Ronna McDaniel says to do it.

I heard the voice vote. It was overwhelmingly yes. There was an underwhelming barely audible teeny no. It was political democracy as usual. That's how democracy works. That's why we were founded as a Republic, not as a democracy.

Next let’s rebrand the Civil War as the Legitimate Political Discourse Affair of 1861-1865
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Pete F. 02-05-2022 01:07 PM

Overnight, it was revealed that DOJ subpoenaed the call records of the lawyer for Bannon and Giuliani, to get records on how Trump is trying to cover up Jan 6.
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wdmso 02-05-2022 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1222073)
what’s your evidence that the gop is turning on Pence? We know you WANT that to be the case, but that doesn’t make it true.

who was that white you posted, attributed to, exactly? i assume there’s a reason why you posted some weird quote without sourcing it?

you say that quite is from “the base”? what does that mean?
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what’s your evidence that the gop is turning on Pence?



Again Jim do you read? do you even listen to what conservatives Say about any Republican who even looks the wrong way at Trump wont bend the knee no less call him out .... :faga: isn't cutting it


you say that quote is from “the base”? what does that mean?

its self explanatory Jim just like chanting Hang Mike Pence


You can't accuse those protester of being ambiguous

Jim in CT 02-05-2022 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1222107)

what’s your evidence that the gop is turning on Pence?



Again Jim do you read? do you even listen to what conservatives Say about any Republican who even looks the wrong way at Trump wont bend the knee no less call him out .... :faga: isn't cutting it


you say that quote is from “the base”? what does that mean?

its self explanatory Jim just like chanting Hang Mike Pence


You can't accuse those protester of being ambiguous

i want to know where you got that quote. you afraid to say? you just making up quotes, and claiming they came from “the base”?

“you cant accuse those protester of being ambiguous”?

protester? what protester? can anyone please translate this from gibberish to english?

Desantis and Trump aren’t close, there’s rumors they dislike each other. Yet Desantis is an absolute rock star in the gop.

that kind of blows your theory out of the water that no one in the party can survive without bowing to trump.

please source that quote. i’d like to know you you say speaks for “ the base”.
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Pete F. 02-05-2022 06:53 PM

Per transcripts, Fox has not covered Mike Pence rebuking Trump at all today. None of the channel's prime time shows covered it last night either.
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Jim in CT 02-05-2022 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222111)
Per transcripts, Fox has not covered Mike Pence rebuking Trump at all today. None of the channel's prime time shows covered it last night either.
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did they attack pence?
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scottw 02-05-2022 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222111)
Per transcripts, Fox has not covered Mike Pence rebuking Trump at all today. None of the channel's prime time shows covered it last night either.
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so are you saying you think fox is biased????:bl:

The Dad Fisherman 02-05-2022 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222111)
Per transcripts, Fox has not covered Mike Pence rebuking Trump at all today. None of the channel's prime time shows covered it last night either.
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This was yesterday

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pen...unamerican.amp

Ever get tired of being wrong?
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Jim in CT 02-05-2022 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1222116)
This was yesterday

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pen...unamerican.amp

Ever get tired of being wrong?
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but that doesn’t serve the Narrative! Won’t somebody please think about the Narrative!

Plus false equivalence, plus you took Jesse Waters out of context, plus shut up.
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The Dad Fisherman 02-05-2022 08:44 PM

Don’t forget to call me a racist…..
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Pete F. 02-05-2022 11:05 PM

Sorry bad info, but I could wait 13 months to say something, like Pence.
He’s just come to the realization that Trump is going down and is looking for cover
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Pete F. 02-05-2022 11:23 PM

Bannon calls Pence a stone cold coward: “I can’t take Pence & all these guys up there ratting out Trump on Capitol Hill right now”

He said the quiet part out loud. You can’t “rat out” an innocent person

Trump, Bannon & their terrorist gang are guilty as hell & they all know it
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Jim in CT 02-05-2022 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222119)
Sorry bad info, but I could wait 13 months to say something, like Pence.
He’s just come to the realization that Trump is going down and is looking for cover
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had to get a dig in at a decent guy who refused to do what trump
wanted, has always said trump
was wrong. you can’t just admit it.

it’s not bad info, it’s a bad brain.
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Pete F. 02-06-2022 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1222121)
had to get a dig in at a decent guy who refused to do what trump
wanted, has always said trump
was wrong. you can’t just admit it.

it’s not bad info, it’s a bad brain.
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He didn't stand up for the truth. He just couldn't get away with subverting it.
There's a lot more Pence could have said if he were serious.
John Kasich was on CNN with Erin Burnett asking where has Pence been for the last six years. "Real courage is speaking up when you have nothing to gain by doing it."
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Jim in CT 02-06-2022 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222125)
He didn't stand up for the truth. He just couldn't get away with subverting it.
There's a lot more Pence could have said if he were serious.
John Kasich was on CNN with Erin Burnett asking where has Pence been for the last six years. "Real courage is speaking up when you have nothing to gain by doing it."
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Kasich is a disgruntled reject whose intent is to besmirch those who rejected him.

The GOP should take lessons from
the democrats about how to take out their own garbage, Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy.
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scottw 02-06-2022 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222125)

John Kasich was on CNN with Erin Burnett

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wait what?...who??? oh that guy...:laugha:

"Kasich is known as one of Trump's most prominent critics within the Republican Party, and he endorsed Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden for president in a speech at the 2020 Democratic National Convention."

Pete F. 02-06-2022 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1222126)
Kasich is a disgruntled reject whose intent is to besmirch those who rejected him.

The GOP should take lessons from
the democrats about how to take out their own garbage, Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy.
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So George Bush
Mitt Romney
John McCain
Carly Fiorina
George Will
John Kasich
Adam KinInger
Liz Cheney

Are now considered “RINOs”.

And their leading candidate is a corrupt, sexual predator, disgraced twice impeached Trump.

Tells you everything you need to about today’s GOP.
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wdmso 02-06-2022 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1222108)
i want to know where you got that quote. you afraid to say? you just making up quotes, and claiming they came from “the base”?

is that your response Jim That I am making up Quotes you stink of desperation .. go to a where the base hangs out and read the comment sections

“you cant accuse those protester of being ambiguous”?

protester? what protester? can anyone please translate this from gibberish to english? wow you really love playing stupid (guess you never heard Hang Mike pence or where it was chanted )

Desantis and Trump aren’t close, there’s rumors they dislike each other. Yet Desantis is an absolute rock star in the gop.

that kind of blows your theory out of the water that no one in the party can survive without bowing to trump. not really Jim Desantis is Trumpism in Black Hair he's not bringing in new Republicans

please source that quote. i’d like to know you you say speaks for “ the base”. the base speak for themselves
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He has become an absolute rock star among center-right voters and conservative voters,” said Peter Feaman, a member of the Republican National Committee from Florida. “All I have to do is mention his name, and the rooms immediately burst out in applause.”

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ned-himself-t/ if found the source of your quote it's not hard or Ben Shapiro
@benshapiro
DeSantis is a rock star. ‘Florida chose freedom over Faucism’: Gov. Ron DeSantis updates his status to ‘rock star’ looking like another Cult of personality is forming

detbuch 02-06-2022 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222130)
So George Bush
Mitt Romney
John McCain
Carly Fiorina
George Will
John Kasich
Adam KinInger
Liz Cheney

Are now considered “RINOs”.

Not just "now".

And their leading candidate is a corrupt, sexual predator, disgraced twice impeached Trump.

No more corrupt than many Democrat heros.
"Predator" is way overstating it. Clinton was more of a predator.
Being impeached by the opposing party whose main objective is to "disgrace" in order to claim that he has been disgraced is disgraceful.


Tells you everything you need to about today’s GOP.
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Nah.

Pete F. 02-06-2022 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1222135)
Nah.

You’re right, I misspoke, career criminal would be more appropriate.

Here’s one of your real Republicans

Madison Cawthorn's Fox News clips, praising Russia's military might and deriding America's capabilities, are being broadcast on Russia's state TV. Perfect timing, in light of his St. Petersburg story being so widely discussed in the U.S.
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scottw 02-06-2022 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1222133)

go to a where the base hangs out and read the comment sections

we rely on you for this honestly :laugha:

scottw 02-06-2022 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1222133)
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not really Jim Desantis is Trumpism in Black Hair

who is Jim Desantis?

Jim in CT 02-06-2022 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1222133)
He has become an absolute rock star among center-right voters and conservative voters,” said Peter Feaman, a member of the Republican National Committee from Florida. “All I have to do is mention his name, and the rooms immediately burst out in applause.”

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ned-himself-t/ if found the source of your quote it's not hard or Ben Shapiro
@benshapiro
DeSantis is a rock star. ‘Florida chose freedom over Faucism’: Gov. Ron DeSantis updates his status to ‘rock star’ looking like another Cult of personality is forming

you literally made up a quote, put it in quotation marks, and attributed it to the gop base

that’s not discourse wayne, that’s insanity.

you guys all hear the same voices in your head, and respond only to what you WISH we were saying.

because you know you can’t respond to what we’re actually saying.

Desantis is a lot like trump ( but without the personal baggage), that’s why i love him, and why you’re scared sh*tless of him.

Desantis will advocate for policies that people like and which work. And you cant attack him as easily as we can attack trump. that’s why 60 minutes humiliated themselves by smearing him dishonestly.
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detbuch 02-06-2022 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222137)
You’re right, I misspoke, career criminal would be more appropriate.

Not sure what a "career criminal" is. But if someone has not been convicted of a crime, is that one of the qualifications for being a career criminal?

Here’s one of your real Republicans

Are you sure he is a real Republican? Are there any?
What is a real Republican? Someone who believes we are a Republic, not a Democracy?


Madison Cawthorn's Fox News clips, praising Russia's military might and deriding America's capabilities, are being broadcast on Russia's state TV. Perfect timing, in light of his St. Petersburg story being so widely discussed in the U.S.
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Geez, does anyone believe state media anymore, or even main stream media (kind of the same thing)?

Pete F. 02-06-2022 01:53 PM

On ABC, Chris Christie dismisses the RNC as Trump stooges: "This is just a majority of 168 people. And the RNC, most of those folks were put into place... by Donald Trump... Certainly, Ronna Romney McDaniel is carrying water for Donald Trump... Let's not make it bigger than it is."

Christie sides with Pence, against Trump, on the facts of 1/6: "Jan. 6 was a riot that was incited by Donald Trump in an effort to intimidate Mike Pence and the Congress into doing exactly what he said in his own words last week: overturn the election."
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detbuch 02-06-2022 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222151)
On ABC, Chris Christie dismisses the RNC as Trump stooges: "This is just a majority of 168 people. And the RNC, most of those folks were put into place... by Donald Trump... Certainly, Ronna Romney McDaniel is carrying water for Donald Trump... Let's not make it bigger than it is."

Christie sides with Pence, against Trump, on the facts of 1/6: "Jan. 6 was a riot that was incited by Donald Trump in an effort to intimidate Mike Pence and the Congress into doing exactly what he said in his own words last week: overturn the election."
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Well, if you and Chris say it, it must be true. Nah.

Pete F. 02-07-2022 06:14 AM

If you wanna know why the Republican Party cannot be saved, don’t listen to a crazy like Marjorie Taylor Greene, all you need to do is listen to a coward like Marco Rubio.
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Jim in CT 02-07-2022 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222173)
If you wanna know why the Republican Party cannot be saved,
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first of all, rubies dancing there was embarrassing.

the gop can’t be saved? what just happened in VA and NJ?

Pete, here’s what every single one of you does. and i mean every single liberal here.

when you talk about the gop, all you ever do, is post examples of them doing bad things ( and there are a lot of examples). You ignore everything good, and desperately try to convince yourself that the bad stuff is all there is.

when you talk about democrats. al you ever do is post examples of them doing good things ( and there are plenty of examples). You ignore everything bad, and desperately try to convince yourself that the good stuff is all there is.

When you compare the two sides, and all you do is compare the gop failures to the democrats successes,,obviously that comparison makes the democrats look superior.

But is that a meaningful comparison?

Remember your comment that the gop cannot be saved, this. November.

Why can’t you admit the gop does some things well, and that democrats do some things poorly? what are you afraid will happen if you said that out loud?
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Pete F. 02-07-2022 06:23 AM

From the National review: “The action of the mob on Jan 6 was#^&an indefensible disgrace. It is deserving of both#^&political accountability#^&and criminal prosecution. It is wrong to minimize or excuse what happened that day.”
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Pete F. 02-07-2022 06:26 AM

Wonder what’s happening in Virginia

Youngkin’s team attacked a 17 year old activist for holding him accountable

The same Youngkin attacked the media simply for asking why his 17 year old son tried to vote illegally for him TWICE

Nepotism: one set of his rules for his own son and throwing everyone else to the dogs
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Pete F. 02-07-2022 06:27 AM

Glenn Youngkin launched a tip line that allows parents to report any educators teaching “divisive” subjects, like critical race theory, in Virginia schools. It's been a disaster.
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Pete F. 02-07-2022 06:28 AM

This woman calling out Glenn Youngkin for not wearing a mask is today’s hero!

https://twitter.com/jdcocchiarella/s...216796684?s=21
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scottw 02-07-2022 07:21 AM

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This woman calling out Glenn Youngkin for not wearing a mask is today’s hero!

https://twitter.com/jdcocchiarella/s...216796684?s=21
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maybe you don't understand.....when you institute or support mask mandates and then you don't wear one in the places you required everyone else to wear them...you are a clown...we have many current examples

Jim in CT 02-07-2022 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222175)
From the National review: “The action of the mob on Jan 6 was#^&an indefensible disgrace. It is deserving of both#^&political accountability#^&and criminal prosecution. It is wrong to minimize or excuse what happened that day.”
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Agreed. It's also wrong to fantastically exaggerate what happened that day. Wrong to charge them for crimes they didn't commit.

And it's wrong to assign blame, to tens of millions of registered republicans.

No one ever said the entire democratic party was responsible for the violent, feral anarchy during the summer of 2020. The rioters are responsible, no one else.

Jim in CT 02-07-2022 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222178)
It's been a disaster.
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Based on what?

scottw 02-07-2022 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1222175)

“The action of the mob on Jan 6 was#^&an indefensible disgrace.

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this is an accurate description of just about any mob action...except leftist mobs, they are the good mobs doing productive things


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