2006 John and Toyota will have all you want and more.

By the way, I'm 110% for cleaner air and reduced reliance on foreign fuel (to hell with the Middle East).

How we get to that point is not going to be via gov't edict.

Technological advancement, corporate return on investment and consumer demand all have to converge to the public interest. Not an easy thing to predict.

Toyotas, while nice cars, have not moved me since the TT MR2. Thye are nice, I worked in Toyota Service for years, they just don't get the blood pumping for me...

The new Tundra will move you alot John. V8 hybrid that will tow the new ford its payload and towing cap with no problem all with the fuel econ of a V6. We are just starting to get info from the region ( was there today for training ) and its going to blow the big 3 away.

I just don't like it - that's very similar to some of the stuff I've seen in the maggies - just don't like the looks...

What ever floats you boat. Thats why you have such a great site going here, we all have different points of view and for the most part get along just fine. I am wishin my Chevy will last long enough for these to come out then Ill be driven one. Fingers crossed!

Chevys never die, they get rebuilt.

I read somewhere that Toyota has a new 300hp, 30-mpg new Tundra on the horizon (hope it's not what is pictured above) , if it has a good towing capacity it should be a big seller.

I believe it is what's above - and it aint pretty (though changes do happen from conceptual to production)

KL - just don't like the looks of Toyotas as much - they are great cars, don't get me wrong, just kinda boring. I think a Buick has more style in many cases than a Yoda...

On the other hand, that Nissan Fullsize looks sweet. And I like the new F150 too...

I hear you John. The FTX ( above ) is the concept for the new Tundra and from what we have been told from the region 300HP would be low for the power plant they are working out for this truck. The Nission and new F150 are a good truck but they are already haveing problems with both of them ( this is what happens when you use the consumer to test out what you built ) think about this as well, If they are as good as they say they thay are why do you need to give cahs back on a product that just came out a few short mounths ago? hhhmmmmmmmm

Ford and Nisson are working on there Hybrid's also but I think it is funny that they both licensed the system from Toyota.:laughs:

I give up and bow before your exalted status in the car business :D - No sense arguing with a car salesman about the nuances of automobilia. (BTW - someone I work with is considering a new yota - I'm gonna send him your way)

Or argue how badlly certain highly regarded japanese brands exude oil from most seals later on in life, cam seal, crank seal, plug tube seals, H20s on the T-Belt, Valve Seals :eek5: , or millions of bad V-6 truck engines, or how much of a P.O.S. the BIG L.C./450 is, the variable venturi carb that failed on 70% of turkles (I told you I was an ASM at a Toyota dealership, eh?).

I respect the product. Even though they are far from perfect they are near best in breed though 100 day and 6 month CSI studies don't mean jack. What I'm trying to say is that IT DOESN'T REACH OUT and make me want to drive the stinkin thing. :rolleyes:

"Gas Prices"
 

Who has the cheapest gas prices in Narragansett Bay? Where
you can pull up with your boat>

The last two vehicles that got my blood pumping cost me more aggrivation and more money than what they were worth. both were good ole "american made", always cost a ton in repairs and fuel andleft me wishing I could drive all day and NOT worry about being left on the side of the road....:mad:

now we own two vehicles...both toyotas and I dont think I will ever go back. I have never owned a more reliable vehicle. and to think at one time I swore I would never own one!


as far as gas prices are concerned, I dont like the fact that it cost me $20 to fill my tiny little tank this morning but if I lived in europe it would have cost me four times that. I guess we dont have it all that bad.